Is Miami even going to pay attention to him beyond the arc now? If he’s not able to make open threes he shouldn’t be playing. It isn’t like he’s bringing much on the defensive end.
Is Miami even going to pay attention to him beyond the arc now? If he’s not able to make open threes he shouldn’t be playing. It isn’t like he’s bringing much on the defensive end.
Kevin Love"Bam Hurts Everybody" to the tune of Truth Hits Everybody by the Police is now going through my head, he took out half the Knicks team last round. Was he involved in the Brogdon injury too?
It's those damned Boston Garden leprechauns again!
Huge. I wish I was a good enough person to say that I feel sorry for him, but this put a smile on my faceShams saying Gabe Vincent is out for tonight's game.
Wait until Haywood Highsmith and Omer Yurtseven each go for 15 a piece.Huge. I wish I was a good enough person to say that I feel sorry for him, but this put a smile on my face
I wouldn’t be shocked if Cody Zeller runs point and ends up with 7 dimes and 4 made 3’s….but I am trying to stay positive for nowWait until Haywood Highsmith and Omer Yurtseven each go for 15 a piece.
Not sure the size difference matters, 2 inches taller but Lowry is heavier and stronger. Tatum was just bullying Vincent last game, rising right over him. I guess it might help Brogdon or White?Cue up the Lowry throwback 30-piece!
In all seriousness, this really screws with their offensive rotations, as has previously been noted but also defensively. Losing size at the 1 going to Lowry.
Makes sense from MIA point of view; no need to chance an aggravation when they are up 3-1.Shams saying Gabe Vincent is out for tonight's game.
I'd hope if Lowry or Butler are bringing it up they'd see pressure. We've seen the impact of them getting tired, and both will be expected to play more minutes. This becomes even more important if there is a game 6, another flight, and a hobbled or no Vincent again. Keep the pressure on. Force turnovers. Drain them.When Lowry sits, who runs the point? Butler? Martin? Robinson? Does Boston pressure full-court on whoever does?
I would think Martin. Not sure how that affects the two man game they run.When Lowry sits, who runs the point? Butler? Martin? Robinson? Does Boston pressure full-court on whoever does?
I'm with you. Another opportunity here to compare coaching acumen. Spo will have to try something new due to the injury; how will Joe respond. How will each counter the other's counters?I'd hope if Lowry or Butler are bringing it up they'd see pressure. We've seen the impact of them getting tired, and both will be expected to play more minutes. This becomes even more important if there is a game 6, another flight, and a hobbled or no Vincent again. Keep the pressure on. Force turnovers. Drain them.
Good idea in theory but I've felt like MIA has killed the Celtics in transition all series. Pressuring someone like Jimmy in the backcourt could bleed a few seconds off the shot clock but I'd be worried about MIA finding a few ways to break that "press" and turn it into a quick advantage, would prefer to see them get back and get the half-court defense set. It's not like Jimmy's a turnover machine anyways.When Lowry sits, who runs the point? Butler? Martin? Robinson? Does Boston pressure full-court on whoever does?
I feel like one thing that has been notable about the Celt's D this series is how often they get the Heat into trouble with the shot clock, forcing either a rushed shot or a violation. Pressuring a guy who is unused to bringing the ball up might drain another 2-4 seconds off.Good idea in theory but I've felt like MIA has killed the Celtics in transition all series. Pressuring someone like Jimmy in the backcourt could bleed a few seconds off the shot clock but I'd be worried about MIA finding a few ways to break that "press" and turn it into a quick advantage, would prefer to see them get back and get the half-court defense set. It's not like Jimmy's a turnover machine anyways.
I'm expecting some epic bitching at the refs in this department tonight.On the Heat side: They are going to be awfully thin if Lowery gets in foul trouble, as he typically does. He might need to be less aggresive, which will curtail his effectiveness.
Wait until you hearFucking Haywood Highsmith.
Dude has had 3 games this year in which he's scored 15+ points.
He had 18 when he went 7/10 and 4/4 from deep against Chicago.
AND THEN
He had 16 points (on 6/9 and 4/6 from deep), 8 rebounds, 2 assists and 2 blocks in 25 minutes against, you guessed it, the Celtics (C's won by 13, when Tatum scored 49 and Brown had 26).
He had 15 points (on 5/7 and 4/4 from deep), 10 rebounds, 1 assists and 1 steal in 30 minutes, finished as a +12 in a 3 point win against, you guessed it, the fucking Celtics. (Tatum had 31, Brown didn't play)
In both of those games, he played significantly more minutes than Gabe Vincent.
I fucking already hate Haywood fucking Highsmith.
What they lose vertically, they gain horizontallyCue up the Lowry throwback 30-piece!
In all seriousness, this really screws with their offensive rotations, as has previously been noted but also defensively. Losing size at the 1 going to Lowry.
I'd have to see video of this, because I don't remember much of it at all. I watch Jaylen almost religiously on both ends of the floor, and I'm not seeing this.One potential impact of Highsmith playing is that he's hopefully a better place to stash Jaylen on defense. JB hasn't been up to the task of chasing Vincent/Robinson/Strus around the 2 man game w/ Bam, and has fallen asleep a bunch of times leading to wide open 3's. At least has the size to hang w/ Highsmith.
I think Jaylen should be guarding Butler. He did a great job last game, it keeps him engaged on defense and it can mitigate any off-ball issues. Although, like @Deathofthebambino, I have to confess I haven’t noticed that much with Jaylen this series. The only person I’ve consistently seen being burned off ball this series is Brogdon. (Jared Weiss has written that Tatum has struggled off ball in this series but I haven’t noticed that either)One potential impact of Highsmith playing is that he's hopefully a better place to stash Jaylen on defense. JB hasn't been up to the task of chasing Vincent/Robinson/Strus around the 2 man game w/ Bam, and has fallen asleep a bunch of times leading to wide open 3's. At least has the size to hang w/ Highsmith.
I think both of them have lost guys off ball, particularly games 2 and 3, got backcut a few times, got stuck between hedging and crowding.I think Jaylen should be guarding Butler. He did a great job last game, it keeps him engaged on defense and it can mitigate any off-ball issues. Although, like @Deathofthebambino, I have to confess I haven’t noticed that much with Jaylen this series. The only person I’ve consistently seen being burned off ball this series is Brogdon. (Jared Weiss has written that Tatum has struggled off ball in this series but I haven’t noticed that either)
I don't think they're primarily switching the Bam-Strus/Vincent/Robinson PnR's or hand-off games. Here's a couple plays I picked out from JB form G4 (apologies, I have no idea how to clip videos and embed here):I'd have to see video of this, because I don't remember much of it at all. I watch Jaylen almost religiously on both ends of the floor, and I'm not seeing this.
I do remember Jaylen absolutely stoning Jimmy Butler possession after possession during the C's run in the 2nd half though.
Are you confusing Jaylen with Brogdon/White/Smart or something?
And I don't know why people keep talking about C's players getting lost on screens. This has been a "switch everything" defense for almost every game for years now. Most of the time, they aren't supposed to be fighting over or under screens, they're supposed to be handing off the ball handler to the defender that came with the screener (usually Bam). The thing most of us around here have been calling for is for guys defending Butler to go under the screen, and dare him to shoot a deep ball, or in the case of their other guards/shooters, the big being switched needs to close space rather than sag off.
I would personally love it if we picked up our defense closer to half court, and force Bam to set screens way above the arc. Our defenders are athletic enough to close that gap, even without going around the screen. Smart does this on occasion, but they rarely do it for a long period of time.
Doubt it. He's pointing out mental mistakes, which are coachable / controllable, rather than physical ones which are matters of execution and opponent ability (like turnovers). When I'm coaching, I focus on the former (positioning, reading a play, footwork, what to focus on), and never really comment on physical errors like "run faster" or "don't throw that away" which is (A) obvious and (B) either something they can't help, or not something that better decision-making can help with.I absolutely loved the one part where hes like "OK you turned the ball over its fine its basketball..." Like, he's gotta be in on the bit right?
Are you in on the bit too? The guy doesn't know how basketball works.Doubt it. He's pointing out mental mistakes, which are coachable / controllable, rather than physical ones which are matters of execution and opponent ability (like turnovers). When I'm coaching, I focus on the former (positioning, reading a play, footwork, what to focus on), and never really comment on physical errors like "run faster" or "don't throw that away" which is (A) obvious and (B) either something they can't help, or not something that better decision-making can help with.
"you're not wrong, Walter. You're just an asshole."
From your lips to Red’s ears. Am sure you saw Marcus waving to JB to pick up at half court in the first half. JB made a nice play, was running back and Marcus waved him up. The Celt’s defense has been a thing of beauty tonight.I would personally love it if we picked up our defense closer to half court, and force Bam to set screens way above the arc. Our defenders are athletic enough to close that gap, even without going around the screen. Smart does this on occasion, but they rarely do it for a long period of time.
The problem with the Heat zone is that they’re prone to offensive rebounds. Celtics dominated in that department against it and I don’t see that changing.I'm concerned how bleh we look against Miami's zone, outshot it tonight in the 1st and basically held serve the rest of the game, but there will likely be more crunch time (late & close) in this series and I'm not sure I saw anything that gives me confidence it won' be a game 2 repeat.
Also, Brogdon might be done, and Pritchard can't play actual minutes either, so we're only 7 deep right now. Maybe they finally try Hauser. Vincent is supposedly fine for game 6, but that is something to watch again as it felt like a backbreaker for Miami.
In the end though.... we have a series, and we can bitch about how they should be up 3-2 instead of down after the fact. Let's see what they can do.
More White minutes feels like a big bonus to Brogdon being done. I vote for some Hauser minutes.I'm concerned how bleh we look against Miami's zone, outshot it tonight in the 1st and basically held serve the rest of the game, but there will likely be more crunch time (late & close) in this series and I'm not sure I saw anything that gives me confidence it won' be a game 2 repeat.
Also, Brogdon might be done, and Pritchard can't play actual minutes either, so we're only 7 deep right now. Maybe they finally try Hauser. Vincent is supposedly fine for game 6, but that is something to watch again as it felt like a backbreaker for Miami.
In the end though.... we have a series, and we can bitch about how they should be up 3-2 instead of down after the fact. Let's see what they can do.
I guess that's a nice bonus but for the most part we're taking low-percentage shots, where I feel we're really prone to a bad shooting night in a situation you can't lose any more.The problem with the Heat zone is that they’re prone to offensive rebounds. Celtics dominated in that department against it and I don’t see that changing.
They had countless open shots against the zone tonight. What is your concern?I didn’t get to watch the whole game but I don’t recall a single set against the zone where they ran Tatum to the foul line tonight.
I don’t get it.