Slick move. Suggests that he knows he has no defense for him and wants no part of dancing around the press’ questions.
TNT isn’t touching the ejection.
2023 NBA Playoffs
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TNT isn’t touching the ejection.
I believe it, Kerr was on the opposite end of the floor and the ball was already on it's way up court. Of course he saw the replays, he just has nothing to say.
Should be an even faster and more frantic pace in G3 with a (likely) Green suspension and Sabonis (maybe) out of commission.
In a juicy poker game and missed the play. Seems like much of Twitter is placing the blame on Sabonis for taking Draymond down two games in a row with more on the side of that not being enough for Green to try and put him out like a cigarette. Looking forward to seeing it.
Let me ask you a question bc I don’t want to put words in anyone’s mouth as if I read how awful a player Rui is I’d think you’d expect him to sign a min-contract as a RFA this summer. What do you expect his market to be?
I feel his floor is whatever the MLE comes out to, like 3/$30m with his upside in the $15m AAV range.
Not really. Rui’s agents job is to bring Rob an offer sheet so his market, while diminished by his RFA status, will still be determined.
Beyond the play... Draymond was taunting the crowd after the play up until he got ejected. It's telling that not a single player, assistant coach or Kerr made any attempt to tell him to STFU. Because Draymond is a bully who has been enabled by a coach and team that likes to pretend they're above it all and that what Draymond does is somehow ok within the norms of basketball.
Just watched the Kings game.
1. Wow. Love the Kings energy. New favorite non-Celtics' team. The way they committed to pushing on nearly every possession was beyond impressive.
2. Mitchell was a monster on Curry, and the rest of the team was really dialed in to the defensive gameplan. Great coaching and execution.
3. Draymond is a foul, revolting human being when he steps in the lines of a basketball court. That was one of the more dangerous plays I've ever seen, and playing the heel to the crowd after it was disgusting. It sounds hyperbolic, but he will end up seriously injuring someone (or worse) if he isn't forced off the court or kept on an incredibly tight leash by the league. Stomping on someone's sternum.....I don't even want to think about how that could have ended.
I expect the series to have more twists and turns, because the Kings will have a hard time maintaining that energy level in Oracle, and the Warriors are much better there. I'd love to Draymond and his morally repugnant enabler Kerr out of the playoffs in 4, but 7 seems more likely to me.
1. Wow. Love the Kings energy. New favorite non-Celtics' team. The way they committed to pushing on nearly every possession was beyond impressive.
2. Mitchell was a monster on Curry, and the rest of the team was really dialed in to the defensive gameplan. Great coaching and execution.
3. Draymond is a foul, revolting human being when he steps in the lines of a basketball court. That was one of the more dangerous plays I've ever seen, and playing the heel to the crowd after it was disgusting. It sounds hyperbolic, but he will end up seriously injuring someone (or worse) if he isn't forced off the court or kept on an incredibly tight leash by the league. Stomping on someone's sternum.....I don't even want to think about how that could have ended.
I expect the series to have more twists and turns, because the Kings will have a hard time maintaining that energy level in Oracle, and the Warriors are much better there. I'd love to Draymond and his morally repugnant enabler Kerr out of the playoffs in 4, but 7 seems more likely to me.
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It's tiring just to watch the Kings keep that up, which makes me wonder whether they can do it on the road, without the home crowd.
One factor I hadn't considered: how much of Oracle will be Kings' fans? The two teams have not been good at the same time in basically ever, so I'm curious.
Honestly, if your deep guys can play, the short rotations may do more harm than good.
If that play was reversed and Sabonis stomped on Green, Kerr would have gone on a 5 minute sanctimonious monologue about how awful it was and how it’s disrespectful to the game.
draymond does it and crickets
It was all cute and gamesmanship when Draymond was just tackling guys, but once 250 lb dudes start stomping on other dudes' chests, you cross into "could actually kill someone" territory.
Of course Kerr doesn't give a shit, and god forbid he ever rebuke Draymond publicly or that Draymond ever face internal consequences from the Warriors for his shit.
We have plenty of prior examples of organizations taking responsibility for their employees' actions, even when it might cost them on court. The Celtics suspended Ime for a year, and the Wolves just suspended Gobert for a play-in game. Forget suspensions: Kerr won't even say that stomping on guys' chests is wrong.
For me, that puts Steve Kerr into "bad human being" category.
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Just watched the Green play. That's a true WTF. As dirty a play as I've seen since Laimbeer. It's actually sort of shocking that nobody on the Kings threw hands at him. In the 80s, that sets of a full-on donnybrook, I think. Wouldn't be shocked if he catches an elbow at some point and loses a couple teeth.
Old habits die really hard. I'd dislike the Dubs a lot less if they still played in Oracle.
Reminded me of Reggie Jackson sticking his tush out and getting hit by the ball in the 78 World Series. Only Green got away with it. Maybe the foot stomp doesn't happen if they don't overturn the first call.
The grabbing someone’s foot/holding onto their leg is relatively common. A bit of gamesmanship to slow them down from getting back into the play.
ive literally never seen someone respond to that by turning around, looking at the person on the ground and stomping on their chest.
The woofing and screaming at the crowd after the ejection was fucking embarrassing. The fact that no coach or teammate stepped in and pushed him to the back is mind boggling and tells you everything you need to know about that team.
BTW, last year werent Kerr, Klay and Draymond talking about how offensive it was for Boston fans to use the F word and acting like that was a crime against humanity? Interesting that that’s crossing the line but it’s perfectly fine for Draymond to scream “Pussy!!” Over and over at Kings fans
Will Silver have the guts to suspend Draymond? I certainly hope so.
The Sabonis grab is a nothingburger; I was surprised how nothing it was as I read the commentary and 'defenses' from GS players before seeing it.
Green seems like an unhinged guy somewhat often; I hope that does not end up leading to something really bad post-career when his competitive fire cannot be satisfied primarily by sports.
The Sabonis grab is a nothingburger; I was surprised how nothing it was as I read the commentary and 'defenses' from GS players before seeing it.
Green seems like an unhinged guy somewhat often; I hope that does not end up leading to something really bad post-career when his competitive fire cannot be satisfied primarily by sports.
Don't forget the: "he broke the code" lecture from last year's playoffs. Kerr is a fraud.
It’d be nice to have a reporter ask him if he thinks continuing to enable green is working.
They were mentioning after the broadcast that the Kings actually have a better record away.
Warriors are also a lot better at home.. should be interesting.
Yeah.. he knew Sabonis was behind him.. he definitely was hoping to catch him trying to get back in play.. it’s what he does
Not only does no one on the Warriors call him out, they double down:
View: https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1648310668913700866?s=46&t=eD7tMmMT9bvFnXVJycVRfQ
I can only assume Steph and Klay are not too bright because they fail to realize that Draymond’s antics forces them to no-comment or, the approach they seem to embrace, look like complete idiots by defending him. Obviously, Kerr bears most of the responsibility for not doing a thing about it for years, but Steph and Klay aren’t exactly displaying leadership.
Where is Shannon Sharpe to rein in a rogue teammate when you need him?
Where is Shannon Sharpe to rein in a rogue teammate when you need him?
This doesn’t surprise me too much. Klay doesn’t seem like the brightest bulb and is constantly putting forth weak ass defenses for Draymond. His horror that fans might say fuck is exhibit A.
however, he is so laughably wrong here. Draymond wasn’t running full speed. He wasn’t even running. He was attempting to start moving but couldn’t, then tried to use Sabonis as a spring board from a standstill
Most deep guys are far inferior though. The Kings went on a quick 16-4 run to flip the game at start of the 2Q after the Warriors inserted Kuminga for Curry when they went deep….the Warriors never saw the lead again. Sure, Poole and Donte sucked during that stretch too but using a full second unit on the road in a playoff game is something Kerr should be questioned for doing.
I don't expect Kerr, Klay or Steph to fully call-out Draymond and reprimand him publicly in the middle of the playoff series. Clearly, they are doing what they think is the best move to work with Draymond going forward in the playoffs, and that is to support him publicly. Maybe behind closed doors its different, and while it would be pleasant if Kerr would even say something like "Draymond knows that he can't do that, and it hurts our team" I don't expect him to do so. Really the league needs to step in, especially Silver who was at the game last night, to come in with a strong statement and likely a suspension.
Holy hyperbole batman. It was a dirty play. There was zero chance of anyone dying. My god
The Warriors don't really have their core rotation figured out and that has been the case throughout the year, especially with different injuries and acquisitions throughout the season. One of the concerns about them heading into the playoffs is that they didn't have their rotation hammered out and it was unclear who was going to play off the bench for them.
It's also early in the series and all teams are still trying to figure out which fringe guys can and cannot play based on matchup.
He's 25 with a good NBA body (athletic 6'8" with a 7'2" wingspan). He'll get paid. That doesn't mean that he's good now. He'll be getting paid for ceiling.
To be fair, yeah maybe playing in that shithole org did nothing for his development. He wouldn't be the first guy to improve in a better situation. But his resume to date is dreadful.
I don’t disagree with any of this. When it happened though I was like whoa is this a preseason game…..and then we saw the results. Not Kerr’s finest moment and I’ve been critics of his in-game decision making for years. Right place at right time kinda guy.
It's not hyperbole at all. Being a huge guy and stomping directly down on a person's chest is insanely dangerous. Maybe you trust Draymond Green to precisely regulate the force applied to send the appropriate message, lol.
Edit: Maybe a more precise way of putting it: how much money would you have to be paid to allow an angry Draymond Green to stomp on your chest?
Calling out Sabonis for the dirty play is, whatever, since he did get a Flagrant 1. Sabonis also got completely in Draymond's head, causing Green to react by committing a Flagrant 2 and getting ejected from a close game so lol. Green so embarrassed himself he "is asking for an X-Ray (!)." I mean usually a doctor or a trainer tells you when to get an X-Ray, but sure, makes sense in Wariror-land to ask for an X-Ray as part of a plan to blame others for your actions..
Also, fuck Kerr, fuck Green, fuck Klay and fuck the NBA.*
*Sorry for the offensive language.
also, seems the stomp would be more likely to cause an injury than the grab
Also, fuck Kerr, fuck Green, fuck Klay and fuck the NBA.*
*Sorry for the offensive language.
also, seems the stomp would be more likely to cause an injury than the grab
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Kerr represents his team and backs his guys. He's not impartial. It's annoying but can't be all that surprising.
Green was wrong, but I don't blame Klay and Kerr for saying what they did. It's not their job to be impartial, in public anyway. Green probably cost them a championship, but he also helped them win four, and another would-have-been if not for injuries to KD and Klay, so I don't expect their Dray strategy to change.
Silver was in attendance and I think he almost has to suspend Draymond.
Between the actual stomp and the fucking embarrassing display of jackassery after (acting like hes Ric Flair strutting around, screaming “Pussy!” At the crowd) a message needs to be sent. The league has handled Draymond with kid gloves for far too long.
Yeah all that is expected PR as none of them are going to call out Draymond which would all but assure he’d be suspended. He still may but this is a business and ratings are king…..the NBA wants eyeballs on Sabonis and Draymond for G3 I have to believe.
I agree, can't expect Kerr or any of the teammates to do much other than support Green publicly.
The only question for Kerr is whether saying something publicly that is critical helps Silver get comfortable with no suspension---however, from what I've followed about the Kerr-Green dynamic, Green is a "loyalty" guy so this would backfire. It's better to simply stay away from the topic if you are Kerr and take your chances Silver won't do it.
We kind of know what his teammates really think about him, right? This is a guy who started the year punching his own teammate. I have to think all of this makes the Warriors more likely to move on from him, though he remains critical to what they do on-court. Interesting choice (and we're not certain who will be making it, either!)
Here's the other irony: wouldn't the Kings be a pretty great fit for Draymond if he moves on? His likely next stop is hard to predict, but should be as a 25 minute a game sixth man with either a contender or a younger team who is trying to take the next step. He has suggested he wants to get paid---the market may or may not support that---but he also has an emerging media 'brand' so a Laker stop can't be ruled out (though getting big money from them likely can be)
The only question for Kerr is whether saying something publicly that is critical helps Silver get comfortable with no suspension---however, from what I've followed about the Kerr-Green dynamic, Green is a "loyalty" guy so this would backfire. It's better to simply stay away from the topic if you are Kerr and take your chances Silver won't do it.
We kind of know what his teammates really think about him, right? This is a guy who started the year punching his own teammate. I have to think all of this makes the Warriors more likely to move on from him, though he remains critical to what they do on-court. Interesting choice (and we're not certain who will be making it, either!)
Here's the other irony: wouldn't the Kings be a pretty great fit for Draymond if he moves on? His likely next stop is hard to predict, but should be as a 25 minute a game sixth man with either a contender or a younger team who is trying to take the next step. He has suggested he wants to get paid---the market may or may not support that---but he also has an emerging media 'brand' so a Laker stop can't be ruled out (though getting big money from them likely can be)
Then the backlash he gets for his self-serving comments, particularly here, is also fair.
is the X ray a way for the Warriors to bench Green due to "injury" before the NBA has a chance to?
Sabonis has a great future in MMA if he was able to seriously damage an elite athlete's ankle with that kind of grip and positioning.
Especially for such a champion of social justice. Green clocking Poole in the preseason without repercussions was an embarrassment.
The "Frozen Envelope NBA Conspiracy Theory" twitter handle would like to adopt this post!