Mallory is probably in on all of them, but if they ever left her off a Cat People pod, they would deserve to lose her.Cat People?
She likely is, and ugh for the reason she'd be on all four.Mallory is probably in on all of them, but if they ever left her off a Cat People pod, they would deserve to lose her.
Has to be Body Heat. Bill has a thing for Kathleen Turner and it's a chance to memorialize William Hurt.Oh yeah for sure. DePalma is coming and that would be a good guess.
He doesn't want people to watch the movie and have it fresh in their minds because it will make Simmons look dumber.
And then by the time you listen to the podcast, you probably don't want to bother watching he movie after.
Didn’t Hurt turn out to be a bit of a scumbag?Has to be Body Heat. Bill has a thing for Kathleen Turner and it's a chance to memorialize William Hurt.
Edit: Duh. Which isn't DePalma.
It sure seems that way. "Memorialize" wasn't a great word choice by me. Probably should have said that the choice of Body Heat as a rewatchable would provide an opportunity to discuss Hurt, who was a huge presence in the 1980s, and his problematic legacy.Didn’t Hurt turn out to be a bit of a scumbag?
Nah I was unclear. I didn’t know if you were making (the probably reasonable) assumption that Bill wouldn’t necessarily handle the discussion well.It sure seems that way. "Memorialize" wasn't a great word choice by me. Probably should have said that the choice of Body Heat as a rewatchable would provide an opportunity to discuss Hurt, who was a huge presence in the 1980s, and his problematic legacy.
No way.I'm starting to get a little worried about you, man. I hope you're ok. I hope you can listen to the Gigolo podcast with a pure heart and an open mind because it is one of our boy Simmon's best performances.
Well this current run of Rewatchables-- Boogie Nights and Sexy Sultry Sleek Nenoir 80s-- is Name of the Rose.No way.
I am clear eyed about this. Simmons has turned into what he used to mock in 2001. An old, out of touch idiot falling back on tics and crutches, without any thought or analysis. Rewatchables is still awesome even when Willy is on it, but his BS podcast is repetitive dreck now. And it's worse because Simmons has surrounded himself with yes men and women who will never question his idiocy.
And that's fine. The truth is, people get old and cannae hack it anymore. That's it, that's my theory. Beautifully fahkin' illustrated.
I would say The Rewatchables, generally, is Name of the Rose (if we're keeping with Simmons - as- Connery).Well this current run of Rewatchables-- Boogie Nights and Sexy Sultry Sleek Nenoir 80s-- is Name of the Rose.
A mere blip on an otherwise downward trajectory.Well this current run of Rewatchables-- Boogie Nights and Sexy Sultry Sleek Nenoir 80s-- is Name of the Rose.
A sympathy vote. It means fuck all.I would say The Rewatchables, generally, is Name of the Rose (if we're keeping with Simmons - as- Connery).
I wonder what his Untouchables will be.
Do you think he gets the screeners because he will talk about them? That’s one of the points of screeners, right? I don’t watch the show so just ignored. I can see how this could be an annoyance but I thought Bill was on his A game for this episode.American Gigolo episode was very funny. I thought Mallory might be too much for these movies but she was pretty good here and you could feel Sean’s discomfort at a few points. I’m looking forward to the rest of the month
Also I had never seen it (born in ‘87) and it was really good. The first half I was wondering why this wasn’t considered a must watch classic but the rest kind of falls off but still a decent movie with an interesting vibe.
Finally, did you guys know Bill had screeners to the first TWO episodes of White Lotus? He brought it up here, brought it up with Sal on Guess the Lines, and the Presitige TV podcast about episode was almost unlistenable because he kept bringing up stuff nobody but him has seen. I mostly still enjoy Bill but stuff like this is obnoxious
I mean they all get screeners right? So they can watch and record ahead of time and release a podcast about the episode right when the show comes out for us. Joanna mentioned that she had only seen 1 before she recorded Prestige because she’s a pro and didn’t want to risk saying something. I know Chris and Andy do the same thing on The Watch. Bill has brought up that he’s seen 2 episodes multiple times this week and even here spoiled a little about episode 1 that Sean and Mallory hadn’t seen when they recorded. Not a huge deal but it’s been more annoying than usual this week. Maybe just because I watch White LotusDo you think he gets the screeners because he will talk about them? That’s one of the points of screeners, right? I don’t watch the show so just ignored. I can see how this could be an annoyance but I thought Bill was on his A game for this episode.
I think the cocaine was supposed to still be really good in 78-80. Thought crack epidemic was close to this time period but later.Re: American Gigolo and Bill
It strikes me as perfectly "Bill" that he thinks living in New York City between 78-80 would be his ideal time/place to live. First of all, the lower east side music scene he references had mostly moved to the mainstream at that point, so you wouldn't be seeing the Ramones at CBGB much (if at all) anymore; same for Talking Heads and Blondie (that era was more mid 70s). Plus, virtually everything else about living in NYC in that era as anything other than a wealthy person or an actual talented musician/artist would have been really unpleasant. Crime was rampant, the subways basically unusable, crack was everywhere... The idea that Simmons would just flit around between the Bowery and Yankee Stadium in some euphoric haze is just too much. Oh, as is the idea that he'd be out enjoying the disco scene.
Also he calls L.A. a "blank slate" and somehow undiscovered territory in 1980 which is absurd; it had been the center of the TV and popular music universe throughout most of the 70s!
Crack was definitely more in the 80s. But NYC was a shithole in many spots the 70s and 80s. You would not go an inch below 14th street or above 96th street, ever. If you went east past 1st Avenue downtown, to Alphabet City, you would likely be killed. If you found yourself on 48th and 9th Avenue, you would run away as fast as you can or else Hells Kitchen (appropriately named then, not now) would have its way with you.I think the cocaine was supposed to still be really good in 78-80. Thought crack epidemic was close to this time period but later.
edit: none of this is from actually knowing as I was born around this time so only info I have is from listening to cocaine users on podcasts.
Amen. Just what they needed. And it sounds like Morris is doing another couple movies, too (unclear if they are all part of this series or something else).I am so, so, so thrilled that they brought back Wesley Morris for Cruising.
Bill always struck me as the kinda guy who doesn’t like cool, good looking guys who are also talented. Does he ever go hard for Pitt or Clooney either?It still bugs me that Bill never includes Jack Nicholson whenever he lists his little Big Actor Power Rankings or whatever. Someone else finally referenced him during the discussion but it’s bizarre. By 1980, Nicholson had more Oscar nominations than either DeNiro or Pacino, and the same number of wins as Pacino. He was just as big a Hollywood figure as anyone, but in Bill’s world he’s like Richard Dreyfus or something.
He would marry Leo.Bill always struck me as the kinda guy who doesn’t like cool, good looking guys who are also talented. Does he ever go hard for Pitt or Clooney either?
Honest question is Leo cool?He would marry Leo.
edit: he loves The Verdict, also. He doesn’t mention Robert Redford enough for me to think he has good taste in men.
He’s not my cup of tea but he has always been popular.Honest question is Leo cool?
Not the question. Very good actor. Very popular. One of the best lives ever lived, but is he cool? One night out before you die - Prime Jack or prime Leo?He’s not my cup of tea but he has always been popular.
That depends, are you over the age of 25?Not the question. Very good actor. Very popular. One of the best lives ever lived, but is he cool? One night out before you die - Prime Jack or prime Leo?
What I mean is, this is a no brainet for me, but I don’t think I represent what the average person would sayNot the question. Very good actor. Very popular. One of the best lives ever lived, but is he cool? One night out before you die - Prime Jack or prime Leo?
If you want to drag on Bill, Wesley's response to the 'Louis Malle' pronunciation is the highlight here.Great movie. They said they would include Pauline Kael's takes more but I haven't heard her mentioned much and she was famously a huge fan of this one.
I did laugh out loud when Bill said he had a hard time coming up with movies where it shows people who are good at their jobs.
Haven't heard about it but uh HEAT AND EVERY OTHER MICHAEL MANN MOVIE?Great movie. They said they would include Pauline Kael's takes more but I haven't heard her mentioned much and she was famously a huge fan of this one.
I did laugh out loud when Bill said he had a hard time coming up with movies where it shows people who are good at their jobs.
Wesley Morris was absolutely insufferable on the “Movies” pod with Bill and Sean. Endless rambles with no point whatsoever.
Ha, I actually heard it as not a pronunciation issue but the fact that Bill didn't seem to know who he was.If you want to drag on Bill, Wesley's response to the 'Louis Malle' pronunciation is the highlight here.
Porque no los dos?Ha, I actually heard it as not a pronunciation issue but the fact that Bill didn't seem to know who he was.
They finally did mention the Kael review deep into the pod which is in her greatest hits of columns.
I think 4 people is too many. Anything over 3 main speakers is a traffic jam and this pod suffered because of it.
Chris is really funny.When Chris Ryan gets worked up when it sounds like Wesley is going to criticize Bernthal, I lost it. He’s a treasure
“Wesley watch it. You are a guest in this house”
If Wesley gets banished for that, he and Bill never had much of a relationship. I just wished one of three dropped on Bill that Malle was married to Candice Bergen until he died.Chris is really funny.
i don't think Wesley comes back after this run though. I thought Bill was pretty irked and the correciton of louis malle's name may be pushing Wesley in the Greenwald zone
Sorry if i wasn't clear--I think Bill was irked with Wesley for pontificating, trying to do things out of order, etc--the Malle thing was just hte icing on the cake. CR's you're a guest comment was kind of made I think to lighten the mood but also maybe to encourage Wesley to get with the program a bit more. The show is "join Bill in having a lighthearted discussion of cool movies" not " give loooong if great answers on what is the key to cinema"If Wesley gets banished for that, he and Bill never had much of a relationship. I just wished one of three dropped on Bill that Malle was married to Candice Bergen until he died.
I think four can work on that pod, but Wesley can make it tough, because he often speaks in paragraphs when a sentence will do. I don't think it was Bill irked as much by the correction as it was by him trying to keep the pod on track. Chris just did The Big Picture 1997 Movie Draft, and he had a line about he can see in Sean's and Bill's eyes when they hit the point where they just want to wrap it up.
Right. It really feels to me like people are projecting all sorts of undercurrents that just aren't there (e.g. the grand insult of "still cranking out The Watch?", dislike of Greenwald, etc).Or it’s four friends that are giving each other shit. Like all the other examples of tension cited in this thread. The “you’re a guest” comment was a joke about their love of all things Beranthal as Wesley was about to criticize him.
Maybe Im wrong but I really do thanks that Bill was annoyed with Wesley. Let’s see how long after naughty November ends before we see him again and if it’s not too long then I’ll readily stand correctedRight. It really feels to me like people are projecting all sorts of undercurrents that just aren't there (e.g. the grand insult of "still cranking out The Watch?", dislike of Greenwald, etc).