2022-23 Yankees Offseason Discussion

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Re-sign Judge and sign Verlander, Turner, and Diaz. Why didn't I think of that?
You should have! then you could get Paid the big buck to write dreck like that!


Seriously though, Heyman has no shame does he
 

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That is essentially just a link to Andy Martino's post from yesterday, FWIW.

But yeah, stunned if either of those two did not come back, really don't get why Cashman likes Boone so much except maybe he takes some of the media attention away from Cashman.
 

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Keith Law for The Athletic has an article about the Yankees' off-season and his own educated guesses as to what they could do based on what they need. It's subscription so am only sharing a few bits.

First, Law echoes what JA and EE and others have been stating for the past week: you don't fire Boone and Cashman unless you're "guy in the car on WFAN" and still stuck in a previous century Steinbrenner winning state-o-mind:
The hand-wringing over the Yankees’ loss to Houston in the ALCS is … a bit much. We’re really going to fire the GM over this? Over posting the second-best record in the American League this year, and then losing to the team that posted the best record, a team that allowed the fewest runs per game in the AL this year and scored the third-most? If your standards are World Champs or you’re fired, well, I guess that’s your prerogative, but it seems like a tough way to run a franchise.
He talks about how Cashman willingly going glove-first at C and SS going into 2023 worked out (as expected; the defense was welcomed but the NYY offense had a sharp dropoff in their 1-9 lineups as a result, although Jose Trevino's great D and 11HR career year was gravy). About that offense:

The Yankees had five players who played regularly for them this year who were below league-average offensively, including Trevino and Kiner-Falefa, although Joey Gallo is gone. With Aaron Judge possibly leaving as a free agent, however, their offensive outlook for 2023 is pretty dire. Anthony Rizzo was their next-best hitter by wRC+, but he’s going to be 33 and has already lost enough bat speed that he posted a BABIP of just .216. DJ LeMahieu has gone backward. Giancarlo Stanton isn’t the player the Yankees traded for, with a sub-.300 OBP between injured list stints. And those are the good hitters they bring back. They need impact at multiple positions.
Law mentions two possible FA bats that might make sense (Brandon Nimmo and to a lesser degree Brian Reynolds). His out-of-the-box take is that the Yankees sign one of the elite SS free agents and move them to 3B. IKF keeps SS warm for Volpe and Josh Donaldson cameos as veteran presence from the bench until Cashman tricks someone into taking him in a deadline deal next year.

[As a Sox fan I'd rather they pull the fork out of Josh Donaldson's back, polish it up, stick it back in, and pretend he's their full-time 3B in 2023.]

Law thinks their biggest issue in getting over HOU's juggernaut is more offense. He doesn't float any FA names for pitching since most of the rotation is locked up through 2023 (Severino) or later (Cole, Cortes, German, Montas). I suspect the Yankees would want someone though; I'm of the mind that Cortes is good but regresses back to good in 2023 from the great he was in 2022 based on xERA, xFIP, BABIP etc. German is 4-5 at best at this point. The Yankees haven't really gone all in with full-on cheap reclamation projects on one-year deals as a strategy but maybe they start to this winter.
 

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Keith Law for The Athletic has an article about the Yankees' off-season and his own educated guesses as to what they could do based on what they need. It's subscription so am only sharing a few bits.

First, Law echoes what JA and EE and others have been stating for the past week: you don't fire Boone and Cashman unless you're "guy in the car on WFAN" and still stuck in a previous century Steinbrenner winning state-o-mind:


He talks about how Cashman willingly going glove-first at C and SS going into 2023 worked out (as expected; the defense was welcomed but the NYY offense had a sharp dropoff in their 1-9 lineups as a result, although Jose Trevino's great D and 11HR career year was gravy). About that offense:



Law mentions two possible FA bats that might make sense (Brandon Nimmo and to a lesser degree Brian Reynolds). His out-of-the-box take is that the Yankees sign one of the elite SS free agents and move them to 3B. IKF keeps SS warm for Volpe and Josh Donaldson cameos as veteran presence from the bench until Cashman tricks someone into taking him in a deadline deal next year.

[As a Sox fan I'd rather they pull the fork out of Josh Donaldson's back, polish it up, stick it back in, and pretend he's their full-time 3B in 2023.]

Law thinks their biggest issue in getting over HOU's juggernaut is more offense. He doesn't float any FA names for pitching since most of the rotation is locked up through 2023 (Severino) or later (Cole, Cortes, German, Montas). I suspect the Yankees would want someone though; I'm of the mind that Cortes is good but regresses back to good in 2023 from the great he was in 2022 based on xERA, xFIP, BABIP etc. German is 4-5 at best at this point. The Yankees haven't really gone all in with full-on cheap reclamation projects on one-year deals as a strategy but maybe they start to this winter.
I find it funny that Law would poo-poo not bringing back Cashman then goes on to say how many below league average hitters they had in their lineup. Who brought them in?

Andy Martino paints a different story on Cashman.
When Yankees owner Hal Steinbrenner told the Associated Press on Thursday that Aaron Boone will continue as manager, it might have led some to assume that general manager Brian Cashman’s return was assured.

In reality, Cashman’s status remains unresolved. He and Steinbrenner might agree to continue their longstanding working relationship -- as we reported Monday, most in the Yankees organization expect that to happen -- but his situation is different from Boone’s.

Last year, the Yanks signed Boone to a three-year contract. If the team wanted to move on, it would have had to fire him -- a move the Yankees have not made on any skipper since the 1990s.

Cashman’s contract expires at the end of the month. If he and Steinbrenner do not agree on a new one, it will not be a firing or a resignation. It will simply be that the sides did not agree to terms.

That has not been settled, and is not particularly close to being settled, according to league sources. Steinbrenner’s announcement on Boone did nothing to make a resolution for Cashman more or less likely.
https://www.sny.tv/articles/yankees-aaron-boone-return-does-not-resolve-brian-cashman-status
 

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I get the idea that it is an accomplishment to get a team to the playoffs, and the playoffs are a crapshoot, and therefore firing a coach or manager after a season like that can seem reactive and reflect unrealistic expectations. I'm sure 1995 Buck Showalter and 2001 Tony Dungy* would agree with that sentiment. I also understand that getting to the ACLS and losing to a team with a better record seems like even less of a reason to fire someone. 2003 Grady Little probably thought so as well. But sometimes it is the right move.

*Many people give Dungy credit for 2002. I do not.

Oh, Mark Jackson, Paul Westhead, Bill Fitch...there are of tons of examples of just changing the voice and then winning a title. It's not as if there aren't other people who can't objectively do just as good a job as Boone.
 
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I get the idea that it is an accomplishment to get a team to the playoffs, and the playoffs are a crapshoot, and therefore firing a coach or manager after a season like that can seem reactive and reflect unrealistic expectations. I'm sure 1995 Buck Showalter and 2001 Tony Dungy* would agree with that sentiment. I also understand that getting to the ACLS and losing to a team with a better record seems like even less of a reason to fire someone. 2003 Grady Little probably thought so as well. But sometimes it is the right move.

*Many people give Dungy credit for 2002. I do not.

Oh, Mark Jackson, Paul Westhead, Bill Fitch...there are of tons of examples of just changing the voice and then winning a title. It's not as if there aren't other people who can't objectively do just as good a job as Boone.
Again, it's pretty unclear what Aaron Boone actually does, but I don't think most MLB managers today have the same responsibilities as managers from 20 or 30 years ago. I don't think Boone decides the lineups (there is absolutely no way he is the one who decided to start leading off Judge down the stretch, for instance) and I don't think he has much to do with mid-game pitching decisions (NY has three pitching coaches and I believe that those decisions largely come from them).

Boone's sole obvious asset from day 1 is that he never loses his cool when talking to the media, no matter how bad the loss or dumb the question. He is a glorified press secretary, and it's unclear what else he does. He probably still makes mid-game position player decisions, not that there are almost any of those.
 

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But to be clear I would have no problem with Boone being fired, I just don't think it matters much. The problems with NY, as I keep saying, are with deployment, and I don't think that is really Boone. He is not the one who didn't promote Peraza in June or who barely used him down the stretch (even if he was deciding the lineups, if the front office told him they wanted him in the lineup, he would have been), he is not the one who inexplicably decided Taillon would be the late inning stopper in the playoffs, he is not the one who started Deivi Garcia a few years ago as an opener in a crucial postseason game.

Whoever made those decisions, they should have their job status seriously looked at, but I am pretty sure that's not on Boone.
 

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That article is surface level at best. The thing about this Yankees team is that we're ignoring the absolute utter sucktitude of them for the better part the season where they played under 500. I understand giving Cash & Boone credit for 99 wins but there's a tale of two teams and the more recent sample size would argue this team was much worse than a 99 win team.

I'm done arguing about Cash & Boone because we know where that ends and frankly, it's philosophical that I believe accountability starts and ends with management and my judgment of the season is not based on the number of wins, it's based on the decisions that were made to put us in a position to win a WS. You can't say all the right moves wins you a world series, shit maybe the moves that win you a WS lose you an ALDS but there were very obvious mistakes being made during the latter half of the season that Boone and Cash seemed tone deaf about. IKF, Donaldson, not resting DJL sooner (they specifically during the season said rest wouldn't help and he could play through it only to IL him way too late to make an impact while providing status updates as if he could come back). Not giving Peraza a good shot, not getting Cabrera reps in left...It felt like a lot of the moves were the wrong moves. Then when Carpenter clearly wasn't ready because he didn't have enough time, Boone's justification was that his bat velo in the cage was the same as early in teh season so he was ready. Just none of it makes sense to stupid me.
 

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not getting Cabrera reps in left
Wait, what? When was this supposed to happen, when Benintendi was still healthy? Cabrera is a career infielder who was bad in April in AAA and then hurt from May 8-July 4. He came back on July 4 (still in AAA) and started raking a few days later, they promoted him six weeks later, a rare promotion done at the correct time. They played him a few games in the OF in AAA but it's hard to give them a hard time for not giving him OF reps before that.
 

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Wait, what? When was this supposed to happen, when Benintendi was still healthy? Cabrera is a career infielder who was bad in April in AAA and then hurt from May 8-July 4. He came back on July 4 (still in AAA) and started raking a few days later, they promoted him six weeks later, a rare promotion done at the correct time. They played him a few games in the OF in AAA but it's hard to give them a hard time for not giving him OF reps before that.
Thinking this through, it makes me even more angry.

1) Our left field depth was Hicks -> Stanton -> Cabrera/Marwin(?)
*Before the ALDS, Boone said he wouldn't have Stanton starting in left at Yankee stadium since he hadn't done it in quite awhile
2) Hicks goes down and we stick to no Stanton in left at home and we're juggling whether the combination of Stanton + Carpenter or Stanton + Cabrera would be best.
3) IKF solves that for us by absolutely sucking at SS.
4) Fast forward to the ALCS and now Peraza is available but we still have to decide between Carpenter and Cabrera for offense and Cabrera vs Stanton for defense
5) All of a sudden Cabrera is in left and bobbles a ball so now Stanton is starting in left at Yankee Stadium again

None of it makes sense to me - it's not too many leaps past Hicks to think about whether Cabrera might be an emergency starter, and we didn't need until the last day of the season to know this...so why didn't he get a couple of reps in September? It's just fascinating to me the juggling of SS - DH - LF. Boone still thinks IKF should be a contender for a gold glove.
 

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so why didn't he get a couple of reps in September?
He did, he played 70 innings there in the regular season and the only reason he didn't play even more was that he was doing awesome in RF and they needed him there.

There are tons of valid criticisms to be made about NY's management of their personnel this year, I disagree that this is among them.
 

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In addition to being good with the media and (IMO) interacting well with the players, I think Boone oversees a collaborative process with lots of input (almost certainly more than a typical manager) from his coaches and the analytics people but still makes the final call. I don't think his players would respect him if he didn't have that authority and I think they do. I don't think Cashman would want a manager without that authority either.

So yeah, I do think he deserves credit for the ways the team played well and blame for the ways they didn't.

But I do think it is more about process than individual decisions that didn't work out. Look at the Peraza thing. I think they should have brought Peraza up earlier and played him more at SS to see if he was really an upgrade. But they didn't. Why? Well, I don't think it is hard to figure out.

IKF tied for 6th in MLB with 10 DRS at SS. He's no scrub there. But we know he was pretty shaky early in the season, probably due to nerves, and seems to tighten up when the spotlight is brightest. Should a defensive upgrade have been more seriously considered? I think yes.

And maybe it was considered earlier in the season. Probably during that time period where NY was playing terribly and lost a bunch of games in the standings. Why didn't it happen?

My guess: 13.6% vs. 23.3%.. 13.6% is IKF's strikeout percentage. 23.3% is Peraza's at AAA. What has been a huge problem with this team all year and especially in the playoffs against Houston? Not getting balls in play. Striking out. More than anything else, it doomed them. It also played a big role during the mid season slump.

So what do you do? Given the games they were losing in the standings, I think they didn't want to make the strikeout problem even worse and rolled the dice a bit. Brought Peraza up a little later but didn't play him too much. Knew strikeouts were going to be an even bigger problem in the playoffs with DJ and Benintendi injured. And of course it was.

None of it worked out against Houston. Some bad defense and too many strikeouts. But I think I understand the thought process behind them (mostly) sticking with IKF and not bringing up Peraza earlier. And I think Cashman and Hal are generally comfortable with the process they have to make those kinds of decisions and Boone's role in it.

At least for another year.
 

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Like pretty much all of NY's position player prospects, Peraza started the season off horribly, and was much better after that, so his full season AAA stats are not so meaningful.

What has been a huge problem with this team all year and especially in the playoffs against Houston? Not getting balls in play. Striking out. More than anything else, it doomed them.
I disagree with this, I think contact for the sake of contact is quite overrated and it's really difficult to score in the postseason without home runs. HOU almost never strikes out and barely scored except via HRs in I think the first 4-5 games of this postseason, but they still won them all.

I would love to hear an explanation from Cashman of why a team that (wisely) went all in on D refused to play the superior defensive SS, especially when he was almost certainly a better hitter too. DRS likes IKF but the other metrics do not, and his presence cost NY repeatedly in their nine postseason games, I would argue it cost them a couple of games (the game that Severino started against CLE and the final HOU game). This was obvious to anyone paying attention before the postseason, and even more obvious afterwards.
 

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I disagree with this, I think contact for the sake of contact is quite overrated and it's really difficult to score in the postseason without home runs. HOU almost never strikes out and barely scored except via HRs in I think the first 4-5 games of this postseason, but they still won them all.
Eh. I didn't say anything about contact for the sake of contact. IKF had the second highest batting average in the playoffs behind Bader and just ahead of Rizzo and the third highest OBP behind those two.

Those numbers still weren't great, but knowing that the team has a problem with unproductive ABs and striking out so much, I can see a rationale for putting IKF in the lineup. But yeah, I would have loved to see Peraza up earlier and playing more when he did, just to have a better sense of how valuable he could be in the playoffs.
 

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I wonder how well Aaron Judge gets along with Boone and if that will be a factor at all on whether or not he comes back.

Probably not a factor at all, but I do wonder.
 

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As of the new CBA (in effect starting 2022), teams get extra draft picks if they have players who finish in the top 3 of the Rookie of the Year voting, so maybe that is the main reason NY held back Peraza, thinking he has a shot at that in 2023 if he is still eligible. He had 49 ABs, and I think 130 ABs loses your rookie status, so probably a factor at least.

But still, there was plenty of room there to give him 5-6 more regular season starts (and postseason ones don’t count), it’s like they were afraid of demonstrating even further to everyone that he was better than IKF. But we knew.
 

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More relevantly since he is a FA this winter again, pretty sure Verlander feels the same way.

Also I legit think NY’s ridiculous no beard policy is going to increasingly cut into the list of players who want to go there going forward. If NY traded for Luis Castillo this summer instead of SEA and made him cut his amazing dreads, does he sign an extension like he did in SEA? I highly doubt it.
 

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Also I legit think NY’s ridiculous no beard policy is going to increasingly cut into the list of players who want to go there going forward.
Do they really still have this? Ultimately I think the list of guys who won't shave the beard if the Yanks come in with the highest offer is small. But it's probably not zero.
 

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Also I legit think NY’s ridiculous no beard policy is going to increasingly cut into the list of players who want to go there going forward. If NY traded for Luis Castillo this summer instead of SEA and made him cut his amazing dreads, does he sign an extension like he did in SEA? I highly doubt it.
Always felt pretty awful for Darnell McDonald when he was picked up and dropped within the same week (there abouts) and all he had to show for it was a buzzed dome.
 

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Cashman and Boone's conference yesterday went over like a big godamn lead balloon. The summary of why is because everything was about them believing their process is the right one and the results don't matter as much if they trust the decision making since they can't control what happens on the field. They blamed injuries. Cashman either didn't know or was questioning what the three true outcomes were (which is embarrassing if true or dumb if he was testing the reporter), Boone said IKF was a top defender (again), and it very much sounded a lot like aw shucks get em next year.

I'm rarely on the side of the mob but I just don't sense any urgency here. Maybe it's there, but it sounds like they're very content with what they accomplished and are coughing it up to chance and injuries for why we got crushed.

Again, not litigating the point on how much blame gets assigned to Cash and Boone, well documented on this forum how I've basically flip flopped depending on my mood w/ Cash. But I just can't for the life of me understand the tone. They sound like a bunch of losers. You want your management to reflect the same level of disappointment in getting beat, not be emotionless robots who say some of the right words and then sound like talking to the media is a chore.
 

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Cashman and Boone's conference yesterday went over like a big godamn lead balloon. The summary of why is because everything was about them believing their process is the right one and the results don't matter as much if they trust the decision making since they can't control what happens on the field. They blamed injuries. Cashman either didn't know or was questioning what the three true outcomes were (which is embarrassing if true or dumb if he was testing the reporter), Boone said IKF was a top defender (again), and it very much sounded a lot like aw shucks get em next year.

I'm rarely on the side of the mob but I just don't sense any urgency here. Maybe it's there, but it sounds like they're very content with what they accomplished and are coughing it up to chance and injuries for why we got crushed.

Again, not litigating the point on how much blame gets assigned to Cash and Boone, well documented on this forum how I've basically flip flopped depending on my mood w/ Cash. But I just can't for the life of me understand the tone. They sound like a bunch of losers. You want your management to reflect the same level of disappointment in getting beat, not be emotionless robots who say some of the right words and then sound like talking to the media is a chore.
First of all, apologies to you, because I read a lot of similar stuff on Twitter/Reddit and I never answer, so you end up getting the accumulated answer here, sorry.

Who gives a shit what the tone of the press conference is? Words don't matter, actions do. Cashman drastically rebuilt this team from the 2021 deadline on, changing them from the 29th best defensive team in 2021 to the best in 2022. That is close to impossible to do that quickly while remaining a playoff team, but they did it. They were the second best team in the AL this year, probably top 5 in MLB, why the fuck should they apologize for that? Did every other team in baseball have to apologize every offseason when NY won 4 titles in 5 seasons from 96-01 (and two outs away from 5 titles in 6 seasons)? Did the Dodgers have to apologize to their fan base for winning 111 games and then only one in the postseason? Fans aren't owed championships, the Yankees don't have the built-in economic advantages they did a few decades back, and Yankee fans should be happy they're not the Knicks.

And injuries aren't an excuse, but they are reality. The bullpen had so many guys out that Taillon was called on for key outs, Montas was expected to be a top 4 SP for NY at least, LeMahieu and Benintendi, etc.

The fundamental problem is that not only is HOU a historically great team who are likely only going to get better, but also they match up very well against NY. I'm not sure why the fan base wants Cashman to gnash his teeth and rend his garments about that but also I think the fan base's collective grasp of how teams are assembled in 2022 is very weak.
 

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And yes, IKF and Donaldson suck (well, Donaldson is awesome defensively), but saying that at a press conference when both are still currently under contract (although a non-zero chance that IKF is non-tendered IMO) doesn't help anything.
 

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Say what you want but hearing your GM say the results don't matter as much as the reason for the decision is an astonishing take for this organization. That's why the tone matters. Have some self awareness that the results matter more to the people who have no idea what your fucking decision making process is when you can't figure out a SS during the most important games of the season. We don't get to hear the conversations and so what that amounts to is "trust us, we know what we're doing...it just didn't work out."

And I'm not trying to start an argument but I do think they owe the fans more. That's what they're here for. For us. Not for the players. Not for the media. Not for the GMs. For us. We're the only purpose of their existence. We buy the tickets and the $7 hot dogs and $9 ice cream cups. We pay for MLB At Bat and tune in for 4 hours a night 170 f'n times. I think it's wonderful they do their best to follow a process that gets us a team in the conversation. I think it's horseshit that they don't accept how frustrating it is to see this team fall on its face every year for the last 6 years.
 

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Yeah, I'm not trying to start an argument either, but I don't think they owe the fans shit. It's a stupid entitled fan base with close to no understanding of anything past "World Series winner good, everyone else suck". They booed Judge in the postseason, fuck them. They want to stop supporting the team financially, then go ahead and do that. I personally haven't been to a game since I think 2010.

And honestly if you find it frustrating to follow the Yankees, you (not you specifically) should find something else to do with your time. They are more successful, short-term and long-term, than almost every other professional sports franchise.
 

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And to be clear I didn't listen to the press conference, it's just PR spin.
 

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I think if anything the fan base owes Cashman an apology for the abuse they have given him in recent years, how about that? Again, without Cashman, I think there’s a real chance that the Yankees are the MLB equivalent of the Knicks.
 

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I mostly think of those fans as entitled, mouth-breathing, sports talk radio calling, NYYFans forum posting idiots.

So yeah. Fuck them.
 

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I think if anything the fan base owes Cashman an apology for the abuse they have given him in recent years, how about that? Again, without Cashman, I think there’s a real chance that the Yankees are the MLB equivalent of the Knicks.
Based on what, really? I like Cashman but he isn't the only GM who understands analytics and how to spend money.
 

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Based on what, really? I like Cashman but he isn't the only GM who understands analytics and how to spend money.
I think he's a top 5 GM overall and it's a lot more likely his replacement would be worse than better. Even the 'biggest mistakes' his critics point to were arguably not mistakes, even in retrospect. One recent example is the Bader/Montgomery deal, no one else would have thought of that (moving a solid SP for a speedy OF in a walking boot) but NY would be in a decidedly worse situation right now without that (no real starting OFs under contract as opposed to one).
 

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That's not a surprise, I do think they need him back badly and hope it gets done quickly, but they also could go with an infield of:

LeMahieu-1B
Gleyber-2B
Peraza-SS
Donaldson or IKF or Cabrera-3B
 

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Is Montas a FA? If not…. You think that Cash will trade him?
He has one year left, a big reason why Cashman moved Montgomery (who also only has one year left).

Cole
Cortes
Severino (option was officially picked up today)
Montas
German/Schmidt/someone new

The way Cashman cleared out pitching depth at the deadline made it seem (to me anyway) that he already knew something about this winter that we don’t, I wonder if that will be Senga.

https://www.yardbarker.com/mlb/articles/amp/four_ideal_mlb_landing_spots_for_japanese_star_pitcher_kodai_senga/s1_12680_38069476
 

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So I would try to get back Rizzo ASAP, he turned down higher offers last winter waiting for NY to give up on Olson and Freeman and go with their very solid third choice. His back issues recurring a few times this season hurt his position here too, maybe he would go for 2/32 and a third year club option at $16M. If NY can get him back quickly, that should help with Judge.

I also really hope they can keep Matt Carpenter, that dude was literally Barry Bonds-like for a quarter season (1.138 in 154 regular season PAs). That OPS is higher than Bonds had in two of his six MVP seasons (1.136 in 1993, 1.080 in 1992). There seemed to be great dugout chemistry between Judge and Rizzo and Carpenter, so I think getting Carpenter back quickly would help a bit with Judge also.
 

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So I would try to get back Rizzo ASAP, he turned down higher offers last winter waiting for NY to give up on Olson and Freeman and go with their very solid third choice. His back issues recurring a few times this season hurt his position here too, maybe he would go for 2/32 and a third year club option at $16M. If NY can get him back quickly, that should help with Judge.

I also really hope they can keep Matt Carpenter, that dude was literally Barry Bonds-like for a quarter season (1.138 in 154 regular season PAs). That OPS is higher than Bonds had in two of his six MVP seasons (1.136 in 1993, 1.080 in 1992). There seemed to be great dugout chemistry between Judge and Rizzo and Carpenter, so I think getting Carpenter back quickly would help a bit with Judge also.
I'm sure they can keep MC for cheap but on the other hand, let's not be relying on an age 37 season for anything productive.
 

jon abbey

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NY will of course offer Judge and Rizzo QOs, both will be turned down. I think they will probably offer Taillon one also, I think they'd like to replace him but if he accepted, that wouldn't be the worst thing.
 

jon abbey

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Too bad he will be out all next year with TJS, although I think the bullpen is in pretty good shape.