"Jewish people" works too.
Dude is just broken, has been for years. He's one of the most talented players I'll ever watch and he can't get out of his own way
Kyrie is dirty rotten no good and we have schadenfreude…?
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Dude is just broken, has been for years. He's one of the most talented players I'll ever watch and he can't get out of his own way
Brian Floyd is, as always, correct.
View: https://twitter.com/BrianMFloyd/status/1588383039897620485
View: https://twitter.com/BrianMFloyd/status/1588383039897620485
How the fuck do you misspell “antisemitism” while making a statement like that?
But the real action here: Did y’all get a load of the last two words of the statement?
Hooboy, Kyrie just can’t help himself, can he?
His inability to spell the word cuts against his claim to be a Semite.
Or dictionary owner.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLIS7qAWeaA
We'll see what happens next, but I'm honestly surprised he even put in the effort for this statement, especially this quickly.
I’d slap extra games on the minimum for pulling that shit. But I don’t expect many people will follow it, which, of course, is something he’s counting on. What an asshole.
Awesome clip, btw.
What has Klutch sports done that makes you think that they have sports consultants capable of “gentle coaching”? Anthony Davis graceful exit from New Orleans perhaps?
Statements don't mean shit when it comes to Kyrie. Let's hear it from him. There is zero chance he wrote that, let alone even believes it(wiggle room him changing...). If he really cared to make a difference he'd make a video statement. He's trying to do the bare minimum
Kyrie reminds me of kids that end up in gifted ed and after better evaluatiuon you see they are just really strong verbally, but mostly just confident, but not all that bright. As kids they spout all kinds of theories and always take the teacher's prompts and give a long empty speech, but it's impressive when the smart, shy math kids don't say anything. After a year or two in a high school program (where I would see them) you have to use Edspeak to explain the kid doesn't really know anything, but will read the first page of a book and go off on a tangent. If they were good looking girl or a musician or athlete they could last longer becaue people liked them.
I for one am willing to give Kyrie another chance.
What I'd like to see is not just staying out of the public eye but get actively involved in anti-hate campaigns, especially those against anti-Semitism.
What I'd like to see is not just staying out of the public eye but get actively involved in anti-hate campaigns, especially those against anti-Semitism.
Alright so in that goofy phony apology he says that basically he regrets not parsing out what parts of the documentary he agrees with vs the ones he disagrees with?
The whole documentary is anti-Semitic garbage so what... you're only slightly anti-Semitic as opposed to a straight up Holocaust denier? Is that really what we're going with?
The whole documentary is anti-Semitic garbage so what... you're only slightly anti-Semitic as opposed to a straight up Holocaust denier? Is that really what we're going with?
This is not a complicated issue. Kyrie is an idiot. An idiot full of himself to boot. His best defense - that he, of course cannot make - is that he is an idiot.
There will come a day, more likely sooner than later, in which his basketball skill will diminish to such a degree that no basketball team will vie for his services. Then Kyrie will really discover that nobody gives a shit about what he has to say.
There will come a day, more likely sooner than later, in which his basketball skill will diminish to such a degree that no basketball team will vie for his services. Then Kyrie will really discover that nobody gives a shit about what he has to say.
He’s more of an amateursemite. He doesn’t do guilt nearly well enough to be professional.
He's conflicted about the Jews being part of a globalist cabal, because, well...
To me, the part of this that has gotten a little undersold is that Kyrie has clearly never really watched this film. Friedell said in the podcast I mentioned upthread that Kyrie just never ever wants to back down when he’s challenged on anything (cue the defending Giannis gifs) so he digs in.
In this case, because he was challenged on the contents of this video, rather than saying “Yeah, I just thought it had a cool name” or admit he didn’t actually do his “research,” he dug in and refused to say the one thing that might’ve gotten him off the hook on this but also would’ve exposed him for being an empty vessel rather than a “beacon of light and truth.” And yes, despite finally saying “I apologize” he’s still doing it now.
Hard to see how this is worth it over the long haul – but it seems like the one thing he doesn’t want to give up in this whole ordeal is the pretense that he’s some kind of prophet.
In this case, because he was challenged on the contents of this video, rather than saying “Yeah, I just thought it had a cool name” or admit he didn’t actually do his “research,” he dug in and refused to say the one thing that might’ve gotten him off the hook on this but also would’ve exposed him for being an empty vessel rather than a “beacon of light and truth.” And yes, despite finally saying “I apologize” he’s still doing it now.
Hard to see how this is worth it over the long haul – but it seems like the one thing he doesn’t want to give up in this whole ordeal is the pretense that he’s some kind of prophet.
That's a really good point. And for someone not him, it presented an out of sorts. "I was repeating the views of people who had seen it. Now that I've seen it, I realize what a horrible heap of bigoted garbage it is and that I really hurt a lot of people when I spoke about something I knew nothing about. I am sorry. I hope to earn your forgiveness."
Also spot on. He's an idiot. The only difference between him and Schilling is that Schilling didn't light himself on fire until *after* he wheedled millions from Rhode Island.
This is definitely possible. To add to that, apparently the movie is very anti-Muslim as well, and I believe that Kyrie is still Muslim?
In the days before social media this may have been true. Today, however, the long tail of idiocy finds plenty of willing participants to pet it until it wags furiously. See- literally every idiot that still somehow has a voice long after their glory days have faded. Should Cole Beasley's stance on Kryie occupy any space in my brain? Fuck no. Yet, here we are.
Unfortunately, I'm afraid we're stuck with Kyrie's dumb shittery for years to come.
My man! And while we’re we’re at it, have you looked at his Twitter page?
Somewhat hilariously, the responses are full of people explaining to him that he doesn’t understand Islam.
Fucking dickhead.
It’s pretty clear that that’s not reading too much into it because it’s actually a repetition of the structure from his Twitter bio (see above), and he’s also Tweeted about this as a kind of theological position (see also above).
So this isn’t really even just a forced apology, it’s no apology at all: With his cute little exercise in esoteric writing, he is issuing on another level a reaffirmation of his beliefs with apologetic language inserted into the middle; indeed, he is claiming that by virtue of his enlightenment or whatever the fuck he thinks he is he is actually above all this crap that we the unwashed masses don’t understand.
He’s seriously being a real piece of shit here; like, he’d developing new and more “sophisticated” ways of being a piece of shit. This is not an apology, except insofar as he’a sorry for us that we don’t share in his grasping of the truth. Asshole.
Basically trying to have his cake and eat it too, and oh, also throw it in your face. Classic narcissism.My man! And while we’re we’re at it, have you looked at his Twitter page?
And, just for good measure, here’s a recent Tweet from him:
For those for whom this is a bit obscure—which is intentional, as Kyrie is engaging in a little self-indulgent attempt at what is known as “esoteric” writing, “YHWH” denotes the Hebrew for “God,” which is often understood to be an ancient subjunctive the verb “to be” and, as such, interpreted as a form of “I am.” So he opens his “apology” with a reference to him studying YHWH and closes it with “I AM” in all capitals, where it’s used as a double entendre, as it ostensibly references his sense of self—but, in effect, a triple entendre in that this whole issue with the movie is about who are the “true” chosen people of YHWH. So he begins by saying he’s trying to understand YHWH and ends with I AM, and then signs off with the infinity loop.View attachment 57205
Somewhat hilariously, the responses are full of people explaining to him that he doesn’t understand Islam.
Fucking dickhead.
It’s pretty clear that that’s not reading too much into it because it’s actually a repetition of the structure from his Twitter bio (see above), and he’s also Tweeted about this as a kind of theological position (see also above).
So this isn’t really even just a forced apology, it’s no apology at all: With his cute little exercise in esoteric writing, he is issuing on another level a reaffirmation of his beliefs with apologetic language inserted into the middle; indeed, he is claiming that by virtue of his enlightenment or whatever the fuck he thinks he is he is actually above all this crap that we the unwashed masses don’t understand.
He’s seriously being a real piece of shit here; like, he’d developing new and more “sophisticated” ways of being a piece of shit. This is not an apology, except insofar as he’a sorry for us that we don’t share in his grasping of the truth. Asshole.
What gets me about all of this is he clearly thinks he's outsmarted everyone. Oh, I've apologized -- now do you, the media, have what you wanted? Can I go back to playing basketball now?
I don’t know that I agree this is classic narcissism. Narcissists crave adoration and validation and will blow with the wind. Irving is many things but seeking love he is not.
Just as his usual word salad tries to impart the appearance of intelligence, he is trying to deliver the appearance of an apology. He is likely to fool someone down the line enough to play more NBA basketball.
This is a fundamental misunderstanding of pathological narcissism. Narcissists as defined clinically are not doormats who seek love. They crave attention and validation, but not "love" as we understand it. They will not tolerate any disagreement. They cast people off not because they're "blowing with the wind" but because they are incredibly thin-skinned and reactive to any perceived humiliation, and they see humiliation everywhere. Most people will not give them the unconditional validation they seek in the face of how cruel and selfish a narcissist truly is, so they turn on them and even abuse them.
Narcissists do not bend to others, they manipulate and coerce others into behaving how they want them to. Classic grandiose narcissists are famous for being antagonistic and intolerant of any questioning of their authority. A person can be narcissistic in one part of their life and normal in others, of course, as well. We start talking about pathology when that person begin to destroy their own life or the lives of others.
He am, he said
unfortunately there wasn't no one there.
talk about frogs who became kings
I'm kind of surprised by how much this is bothering me. I think the combination of the impending election results (#noV&Nhere) and the emergence of really casual antisemitism in the main stream is making me think we're a lot further down the line in the deterioration of our society than I realized. Antisemitism has always been present in American life, but I tend to think of its emergence more as a trailing indicator of where we are than a leading indicator--antisemitism goes mainstream once things are already pretty far gone.
Hasn't it basically forever been clear Kyrie is actually an idiot but is very comfortable speaking publicly? He sprinkles in some fancy words sometimes too, I guess.
Right, he drops "big words" but his diction is all fucked up. He can't string together two clauses without dropping some malapropism. He has no truck with the self-awareness it takes to monitor his own phrasing because he has no empathy for anyone else. He's like Little Carmine from the Sopranos come to life in the form of a basketball player.
He's basically a mechanical from a Shakespeare play. Anything profound he says is accidental and almost certainly the opposite of what he meant.
This certainly wasn't lost on me, and it was certainly 100% intentional on Kyrie's part, based on his prior statements. This is actually insane: he closes his public apology by literally claiming to be God.My man! And while we’re we’re at it, have you looked at his Twitter page?
And, just for good measure, here’s a recent Tweet from him:
For those for whom this is a bit obscure—which is intentional, as Kyrie is engaging in a little self-indulgent attempt at what is known as “esoteric” writing, “YHWH” denotes the Hebrew for “God,” which is often understood to be an ancient subjunctive the verb “to be” and, as such, interpreted as a form of “I am.” So he opens his “apology” with a reference to him studying YHWH and closes it with “I AM” in all capitals, where it’s used as a double entendre, as it ostensibly references his sense of self—but, in effect, a triple entendre in that this whole issue with the movie is about who are the “true” chosen people of YHWH. So he begins by saying he’s trying to understand YHWH and ends with I AM, and then signs off with the infinity loop.View attachment 57205
Somewhat hilariously, the responses are full of people explaining to him that he doesn’t understand Islam.
Fucking dickhead.
It’s pretty clear that that’s not reading too much into it because it’s actually a repetition of the structure from his Twitter bio (see above), and he’s also Tweeted about this as a kind of theological position (see also above).
So this isn’t really even just a forced apology, it’s no apology at all: With his cute little exercise in esoteric writing, he is issuing on another level a reaffirmation of his beliefs with apologetic language inserted into the middle; indeed, he is claiming that by virtue of his enlightenment or whatever the fuck he thinks he is he is actually above all this crap that we the unwashed masses don’t understand.
He’s seriously being a real piece of shit here; like, he’d developing new and more “sophisticated” ways of being a piece of shit. This is not an apology, except insofar as he’a sorry for us that we don’t share in his grasping of the truth. Asshole.
4 Then Jesus, knowing all that would happen to him, came forward and said to them, “Whom do you seek?” 5 They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am [he].” Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them. 6 When Jesus said to them, “I am [he],” they drew back and fell to the ground.
So, just so we're keeping score correctly here, in attempting to close the loop on his grossly offensive comments about Jews, he decided it was a good idea to offend all the Christians as well
I obviously can't say for sure if he's seen the movie or not, but I definitely agree that he comes off as the type who decides he doesn't have to "read the whole book" because he "understands it already." That said, one way or another, he does clearly have a sense of what the movie is about, or, perhaps more precisely, what he understands it to be about, master of mystical hermeneutics that he fancies himself.
And we know this because he is sticking by that understanding.
Oh, man, I was trying to comjure a joke about that. But I can stop now because I won't do better than that.
Wow, I love how you've got that third level that aligns so well with the triple-ness of Kyrie's "apology." Nicely done.
Totally. Meanwhile, there's a bunch of people on some sports message board making jokes about his cunning use of baby Hebrew to express his genius in uncovering the historical Biblical secrets of divinity while managing, somehow, to also discover the long history of people who think they've discovered the same damn thing. Hey dickhead, in all your research, did you ever come across a book called Foucault's Pendulum? It was a best-seller, you asshat.
When this shit first started up—er, when this new shit first started up...—I went back and revisisted his apology and explanation for the Earth is flat stuff. It makes soooo much more sense with this new context. And it's really hard to find the complete comments in The Google Machine because, well, most of it didn't seem important.
He says he's drawn to conspiracy theories, but not always that he believes them, but because they make him think. And that he likes to pose to others that maybe what they believe, they only believe because they've never really thought about it enough to question. Hey, did you know there's never actually been a picture of the whole Earth ever taken? (I have no idea what that's even supposed to mean.)
So basically, yeah, it wasn't just to show he was an interesting thinker or smarter than other people, though it was certainly that. It was more to emphasize that he thought on a level beyond others. And now he appears to believe he's unlocked the secrets of the universe... and, as per above, he hasn't managed to figure out that it's a really old story that is, in fact, about him, just not in the way he thinks it is.
Yeah, this is a hip crowd, isn't it? Think anyone in a journalistic outfit of any significance will pick the story up?This certainly wasn't lost on me, and it was certainly 100% intentional on Kyrie's part, based on his prior statements. This is actually insane: he closes his public apology by literally claiming to be God.
4 Then Jesus, knowing all that would happen to him, came forward and said to them, “Whom do you seek?” 5 They answered him, “Jesus of Nazareth.” Jesus said to them, “I am [he].” Judas, who betrayed him, was standing with them. 6 When Jesus said to them, “I am [he],” they drew back and fell to the ground.
So, just so we're keeping score correctly here, in attempting to close the loop on his grossly offensive comments about Jews, he decided it was a good idea to offend all the Christians as well
And also, Muslims too. Don't forget about offending Muslims.
I can't wait for the biopic: Kyrie Irving: The Greatest Story Ever Told.
Last summer I was on a golf trip with friends. One guy is the Director of the NBA2K game and the other is the Producer. They work for a sub-company to TakeTwo. They've been doing this for over 5yrs and constantly shoot NBA stars in those black suits against green screens. They usually go to All-Star games since that's the most efficient way to shoot these guys in one location (but mainly shoot in Northern CA).
Anyways, we were at dinner and they were telling some interesting stories about NBA players (& their managers/agents on set). I asked who was the easiest, coolest star to work with. Both immediately said Kyrie Irving. Showed up on time, by himself (no entourage looking for free meals/SWAG). Kyrie knew his lines, was engaging, ad lib, etc. Everything you want from on-screen talent (Neither guy was a Nets or Duke fan)...needless to say, I was in shock.
Someone up thread said narcissists or psychopaths can be very charming in person. He may be very engaging with select NBA star players (KD, Jaylen, Smart, etc) and getting their support. I imagine the players text each other and the pressure to speak out against Kyrie might be too much (ie "our brother needs our support more than ever now, nobody better go bad on him").
Similar to the "Blue wall of silence" you get when a policeman is caught on camera doing bad shit.
I wouldn't hold our breath waiting for the NBAPA to take away his VP title and would be stunned if Jaylen or Smart said anything negative on Kyrie.
Anyways, we were at dinner and they were telling some interesting stories about NBA players (& their managers/agents on set). I asked who was the easiest, coolest star to work with. Both immediately said Kyrie Irving. Showed up on time, by himself (no entourage looking for free meals/SWAG). Kyrie knew his lines, was engaging, ad lib, etc. Everything you want from on-screen talent (Neither guy was a Nets or Duke fan)...needless to say, I was in shock.
Someone up thread said narcissists or psychopaths can be very charming in person. He may be very engaging with select NBA star players (KD, Jaylen, Smart, etc) and getting their support. I imagine the players text each other and the pressure to speak out against Kyrie might be too much (ie "our brother needs our support more than ever now, nobody better go bad on him").
Similar to the "Blue wall of silence" you get when a policeman is caught on camera doing bad shit.
I wouldn't hold our breath waiting for the NBAPA to take away his VP title and would be stunned if Jaylen or Smart said anything negative on Kyrie.
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What scares me is how everyday people are susceptible to this stuff. These kinds of conspiracies, when toted by public figures, can be enormously attractive to anyone looking for a totalizing explanation for the problems in their life. What I'm afraid of is not that people are refusing to condemn him, but that they're getting ready to have his back.
View: https://twitter.com/NYPost_Lewis/status/1588538392446652417?s=20&t=Lq0DIjgr8mNObbqjJjucug
Kevin Durant: “I’m not here to judge somebody or talk down on the life or how they feel their views. I just didn't like anything that went on. I felt like it was all unnecessary. I felt like we could have just kept playing basketball and kept quiet as an organization.” #nets
Kevin Durant: “I’m not here to judge somebody or talk down on the life or how they feel their views. I just didn't like anything that went on. I felt like it was all unnecessary. I felt like we could have just kept playing basketball and kept quiet as an organization.” #nets
I'm trying to come up with a question for which that would have been an appropriate answer, and I got nuthin. Only a very casual fan, but very happy that the C's didn't trade for him.