Summer League 2022
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NBA.com had him +26. Franks was -22 and Williams -15. Playing one or both of Hauser and Ryan at all times means that opposing teams have fairly easy path to the rim. Kabengele is only deterrant to easy layups or put-backs.
Justin Jackson with 24 minutes and 2-8 from 3P. He's certainly not shy.
That was a pretty entertaining game.
Begarin flashed his athleticism in the fourth, thank Buddha, but the kid still looks like a G-leaguer overall. Davison not much better. You can see a path to an NBA player inside of those guys but not any time soon IMO.
Nesmith scored a lot in Vegas last year, but he wasn't anything special (36 percent) from 3-point range. Through two games, Ryan is 10 for 19 from beyond the arc.
I'm not sure about the rest of his game, but Ryan is a big-time shooter. He showed that in the G League too, I believe.
It would be nice if he could improve his defense to the point where he wasn't a huge liability at that end of the court.
I think a 2-way contract would be a huge win for him in Boston. Obviously needs to work on footwork/defense, but he could use Strus as a template. Similar body types, Brady 2" taller (don't have his standing/wingspan) which helps
The stroke is mustard
Brady? Wrong QB.
I know this is not good basketball. Lacks the intensity of an October Kings - Thunder game and yet I still have fun watching it and it make me appreciate the association that much more.
I know this is not good basketball. Lacks the intensity of an October Kings - Thunder game and yet I still have fun watching it and it make me appreciate the association that much more.
Didn't watch last night's game except for the highlights, but was a little disappointed defensively in Begarin in the first. He was fine, just not really impressive. Best thing I can say was he was aggressive on offense and made the right pass consistently. What a couple of dunks though.
Davison really needs help with his handle. Other than a baby crossover, he's got no escape moves, no fluidity, and although his first step is good, he dribbles so high that anyone can take the ball away from him.
I like Kabengele. A little too small to play center for long and would get eaten up by a lot of NBA centers, but seemed good at staying in front of guys and positionally was pretty solid on D. I think with some coaching he could hold up as well as Theis did. Three point shot looks good, too, and he offers a little rim-running.
I am confident that Begarin's lapses on defense and occasionally being beaten with speed is more bad habits and lack of experience against elite athletes than a physical problem. He was a bit better than game 1 in moving his feet. The offense is farther away.
is Kabengele going to require an NBA contract?
Are the athletes in the G league the 2nd best in the world? As far as basketball, anyway.
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I like Kabengele. A little too small to play center for long and would get eaten up by a lot of NBA centers, but seemed good at staying in front of guys and positionally was pretty solid on D. I think with some coaching he could hold up as well as Theis did. Three point shot looks good, too, and he offers a little rim-running.
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Isn't he about the same size as Al and TL? We've seen Al hold up pretty well against guys like Embiid.
I like Kabengele. A little too small to play center for long and would get eaten up by a lot of NBA centers, but seemed good at staying in front of guys and positionally was pretty solid on D. I think with some coaching he could hold up as well as Theis did. Three point shot looks good, too, and he offers a little rim-running.
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Isn't he about the same size as Al and TL? We've seen Al hold up pretty well against guys like Embiid.
That's a really good question. I'd say for explosion, probably. And Euro maybe has more skill.
What I'd be worried about if I'm PBS is where will he get better coaching for his weaknesses. I don't think that he has physical limitations that are immediate concerns, but learning NBA defensive concepts, handle, developing his shot.
His athleticism is certainly not the problem. Hope he figures out this stuff out.
You're right. Quick Google tells me he's got a standing reach of 9"1.5. Rob's is 9"4, Horford is 8"11.
I guess I was worried he'd get pushed around by bigger centers like Embiid, but very few can withstand that.
I guess the fact that I'm looking for faults and having trouble finding them is a good sign for him?
Is there a bench slot called "ZONE Buster" because I would love to see Trevion Williams parked at the foul line as guys cut around him and a shooter or 2 slid to openings.
Then I remember he cant seem to do anything else decently on the basketball court.
Then I remember he cant seem to do anything else decently on the basketball court.
First half impressions (first Summer League I've watched):
Where were these kids when we needed them? Taking the Ws to the woodshed!
Thomas most impressive to me, shooting well, defending, he looks like he's a similar type player to Brogdon and White.
Kabengele very good again as well, a physical force inside. He's a powerful leaper, but not a quick one which shows up on the defensive end. Great as a roll guy though.
Williams is very fun to watch, good passer and he has a good handle. Love the old school post game. As advertised on defense.
Begarin was great to start the game, not so much in the 2nd. He's a force on the Westbrookian grab n go one man fast break.
Davison looks overmatched.
Where were these kids when we needed them? Taking the Ws to the woodshed!
Thomas most impressive to me, shooting well, defending, he looks like he's a similar type player to Brogdon and White.
Kabengele very good again as well, a physical force inside. He's a powerful leaper, but not a quick one which shows up on the defensive end. Great as a roll guy though.
Williams is very fun to watch, good passer and he has a good handle. Love the old school post game. As advertised on defense.
Begarin was great to start the game, not so much in the 2nd. He's a force on the Westbrookian grab n go one man fast break.
Davison looks overmatched.
Kabengele can play. Good athlete, good defender, good rebounder. Wouldn’t hate to have him as the break glass in case of emergency big
Kabengele outplayed Wiseman
Begarin played Moody to a draw
Justin Jackson hung with Kuminga
I don’t know if I should be impressed that the Celtics flotsam were able to hang with the Warriors first round picks, or that the Warriors first round picks kind of suck.
Davison outplayed McClung, who JJ Redick couldn’t stop talking about. JD is a roller coaster type point God, but he definitely has the physical tools to be a very interesting NBA player, with lots of athleticism, and great competitiveness. He will nicely fill in the Chris Clemons roll with the Red Claws as he develops. I am looking forward to him throwing the lob to Robert Williams in the preseason.
This was a really fun summer league game. The Celtic players have a really put in a lot of effort these last two games.
Begarin played Moody to a draw
Justin Jackson hung with Kuminga
I don’t know if I should be impressed that the Celtics flotsam were able to hang with the Warriors first round picks, or that the Warriors first round picks kind of suck.
Davison outplayed McClung, who JJ Redick couldn’t stop talking about. JD is a roller coaster type point God, but he definitely has the physical tools to be a very interesting NBA player, with lots of athleticism, and great competitiveness. He will nicely fill in the Chris Clemons roll with the Red Claws as he develops. I am looking forward to him throwing the lob to Robert Williams in the preseason.
This was a really fun summer league game. The Celtic players have a really put in a lot of effort these last two games.
Considering the Cs glaring need in the front court it would seem like he has the inside track on making the team. He's looked like the best player on the Cs summer league roster and he plays the very position they are looking to fill. Probably not the ideal solution to the backup C problem but about as good as you can expect from an unsigned summer league invite..
I like Kornet more than most fans do, but I'm kind of wishing the C's had waited until after summer league to talk contract with him. Kabengele would probably be a better No. 4 option at center, with a vet filling the No. 3 role.
Maybe for pure athleticism, maybe, but I think these G league teams would get wrecked by the best Euro teams. Definitely defer to the more knowledgeable global hoops aficionados though….
G League probably has a lot better leapers. Euro League is going to have more grown man strength, crafty guys, both will have a lot of undersized shifty guys.
I would say the top Euro league teams would beat up on the G leaguer's pretty good, but a good G-league team could probably beat a mediocre-to-bad Euro league team.
A GSW fan said that Kabengele merely dominated the minutes Wiseman wasn’t on the court. I didn’t watch the game. Any truth to that or was it just a sour fan? Of course, one could ask, if that were true, why Wiseman didn’t dominate the minutes Kabengele wasn’t on the floor.
I didn’t really notice Wiseman much for the entire game, but I did notice that he looked clueless on defense. The Warriors had trouble boxing out Kab for much of this game, including in crunch time, when Wiseman was on the court. I can always count on TIMI to come up with a quick highlight package. If you happen to miss a Celtics game and you wanna see how a certain player did go to his YouTube channel . It looks to me that Kab scored half of his points on Wiseman and got a bunch of rebounds and assists.
View: https://youtu.be/aI1T2uDQNIw
G League and top Euro clubs are very different. The G League is filled with raw athletes, so if it's all about guys with high verticals and quick first steps, the G League is going to have more of that.
The Euro teams are much better than a G League team. G League teams are not organized to win basketball games, they are there to develop players and that means letting people do all sorts of things they wouldn't normally be permitted to do in a competitive environment. There is inherently way less teamwork, intensity, and focusing on "winning" in general. A Euro team, which is playing intense competition, would wipe the floor with a mismatch of talent that any given G League team would have.
The Euro teams are much better than a G League team. G League teams are not organized to win basketball games, they are there to develop players and that means letting people do all sorts of things they wouldn't normally be permitted to do in a competitive environment. There is inherently way less teamwork, intensity, and focusing on "winning" in general. A Euro team, which is playing intense competition, would wipe the floor with a mismatch of talent that any given G League team would have.
What are the board's thoughts on Justin Jackson? He is on the older side but played exceptionally well. Jackson keeps showing he belongs in the NBA but does he belong with the Celtics? He's 27, and his 3PT% career numbers have some variance, but perhaps it's a reps thing. He lit it up yesterday and lit it up against Puerto Rico a few days back, tying the record for most points in a USA Basketball World Cup Qualifying Team game. He showed deep range yesterday and vision to make the extra pass. Maybe he's figuring it out. Is he a late bloomer or just a mature player taking advantage of much weaker competition?
Edit: Looking further at his game log, I didn't recall a 10-day contract with the Celtics between 12/18 - 12/28. In his limited minutes, does anyone remember how he looked?
Edit: Looking further at his game log, I didn't recall a 10-day contract with the Celtics between 12/18 - 12/28. In his limited minutes, does anyone remember how he looked?
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Jackson has never shot the ball well from deep; the only shooting at a league average rate once, and is a career 32% shooter. He is a career 80% free throw shooter so it's not outside the realm of possibility that he has figured something out. His career has been hard to determine based on numbers; he played on really bad teams when he was first in the league, and then played on Phoenix last year where he only played garbage time.
He has good size and a good reputation from college. The defensive metrics for him are not great but that will happen when you play for the Kings and the tanking Thunder.
He has good size and a good reputation from college. The defensive metrics for him are not great but that will happen when you play for the Kings and the tanking Thunder.
Thanks. If the C's could make it work, I'd love for them to hold onto Kabengele to see how he develops.
I think he's a 27 year old beating up on other younger guys who aren't NBA players. Maybe he gets a placeholder deal like he has the last few years, but I wouldn't expect anything.