Kyrie is dirty rotten no good and we have schadenfreude…?

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My fever dream has been to sweep BKN with Celtics fans taking over the place in a game 4 blowout and the BOS fans chanting “where is Kyrie?” <clap, clap, clap clap clap> for the whole fourth quarter while KI puts the finishing touches on a disappearing act to the tune of a 2-12 shooting night.
Does that make me greedy?
 

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My fever dream has been to sweep BKN with Celtics fans taking over the place in a game 4 blowout and the BOS fans chanting “where is Kyrie?” <clap, clap, clap clap clap> for the whole fourth quarter while KI puts the finishing touches on a disappearing act to the tune of a 2-12 shooting night.
Does that make me greedy?
So what if it does?

Kyrie quit on the C’s at the end and expected to get respect having left town. Fuck him.
 

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Imo biggest dis we could give Kyrie is ignoring him. Win the series. Sweep him and treat him as a footnote.

Usher in the next generation.
 

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With the exception of game 1, this has been a complete disappearing act by Kyrie. Where have I seen that before?

The dude has been like the 10th best player on the floor in games 2 and 3. Probably hyperbole, but the fact that you actually have to think about it....woof.
 

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My fever dream has been to sweep BKN with Celtics fans taking over the place in a game 4 blowout and the BOS fans chanting “where is Kyrie?” <clap, clap, clap clap clap> for the whole fourth quarter while KI puts the finishing touches on a disappearing act to the tune of a 2-12 shooting night.
Does that make me greedy?
I've been watching Stub Hub and Seat Geek. Prices have remained on the high side and the amount of inventory is relatively low.

Even in the best of times, Brooklyn Nets fans are not at all rabid. The Knicks still own most of the five boroughs and old time NJ Nets fans don't seem all that inclined to travel to Brooklyn.

The result of all of this and the 3-0 "house money" nature of the game, I think and even more than that, hope, will be a heavy Boston crowd and lots of Kyrie jeering.

I will be among those partisans and will be loud. Kyrie has richly deserved everything he gets and will all due respect to Jason Tatum, that includes passionate booing for four quarters.
 

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Nets will give Kyrie the max this summer to keep Durant happy.
I agree, and to date there's not a lot of evidence KD is tired of Kyrie's act.

For me, Kyrie walking because he's not very accountable is definitely still on the table. And KD thinking "I don't want to end my career trying to get Kyrie and Ben Simmons to both be adults at the same time" and pushing his way out, or for some kind of Kyrie deal/exit, is on the table but less likely.

What I think is most likely is that KD will determine, maybe with some input from Kyrie, whether Nash is back or not. May not be fair, but expect that's the reality
 

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I agree, and to date there's not a lot of evidence KD is tired of Kyrie's act.

For me, Kyrie walking because he's not very accountable is definitely still on the table. And KD thinking "I don't want to end my career trying to get Kyrie and Ben Simmons to both be adults at the same time" and pushing his way out, or for some kind of Kyrie deal/exit, is on the table but less likely.

What I think is most likely is that KD will determine, maybe with some input from Kyrie, whether Nash is back or not. May not be fair, but expect that's the reality
It’s a fools errand to predict anything that Kyrie or KD will do in the future.

To date, they’ve talked about wanting to play the rest of their careers with each other. Yet, with those two especially, it seems like they could wake up tomorrow and decide they never want to share a court again
 

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I agree, and to date there's not a lot of evidence KD is tired of Kyrie's act.

For me, Kyrie walking because he's not very accountable is definitely still on the table. And KD thinking "I don't want to end my career trying to get Kyrie and Ben Simmons to both be adults at the same time" and pushing his way out, or for some kind of Kyrie deal/exit, is on the table but less likely.

What I think is most likely is that KD will determine, maybe with some input from Kyrie, whether Nash is back or not. May not be fair, but expect that's the reality
If it becomes clear, for whatever reason, that Ben Simmons is done as a competitive player, KD probably asks out, and Brooklyn won't make a huge stink, since they could get a massive haul for him.

I'd also expect him to ask out if Kyrie, for whatever reason, leaves this summer.

The thing that sucks for Brooklyn is that they are right back in "can't tank" territory because of the Harden picks to Houston.
 

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That Harden trade was so bad. This team looks a lot better with Jarret Allen.
FWIW, Allen wasn't EXACTLY a huge part of the Harden trade. The thing with Allen was that supposedly, the Nets front office wanted to keep DeAndre Jordan happy (as a way of keeping Durant/Kyrie happy since they are all buddies) and in order to clear time up for Jordan, they felt like they had to get rid of Allen, which is why he was given away for basically nothing.
 

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FWIW, Allen wasn't EXACTLY a huge part of the Harden trade. The thing with Allen was that supposedly, the Nets front office wanted to keep DeAndre Jordan happy (as a way of keeping Durant/Kyrie happy since they are all buddies) and in order to clear time up for Jordan, they felt like they had to get rid of Allen, which is why he was given away for basically nothing.
well also because they were paying Jordan and he was the guy KD/Kyrie wanted, they knew they couldn't pay Allen. A lot of people thought that deal he got was an overpay, Nets wanted no part of $20M plus for him a year.
 

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What a dork. If I’m the Nets fan I want nothing to do with Kyrie moving forward. He completely vanished after G1 and as much as I love our defense I think there’s a little more to it. Kyrie disappearing in the playoffs when the going gets tough is a pattern now.
 

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Kyrie after the game: I'm excited to have this motivation going into the summer... It's hard to turn on a switch and be a great team today.
 

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He’s not the type of guy to let outside noise bleed in but they gotta be more focused. Okay.

‘I never wanted it to be about me.’

This fuckin’ guy. He just….says things.
 

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Kyrie says about his extension, he doesn't plan on going anywhere. He wants to stay with Kev and manage the franchise together.
 

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If put in charge of the franchise he would just move them to Tulum.
 

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I'm trying to be objective here. Kyrie's skills can be otherworldly, as that game 1 performance showed (and which I witnessed live). He has that championship with Cleveland where he hit the winning shot. He might be the best ballhandler in the history of the NBA (Isaiah Thomas (DET) is the only one I think may rival him). Yet, he really kind of sucked in the last 3 games of this series. He's a selfish person and a shitty teammate (quit on the celtics and took a "stand" against vaccinations and quit on Brooklyn in the process). He doesn't seem to care at all. Notwithstanding his brilliant skills, I don't really know how to characterize his NBA value at this point, but it's pretty fucking satisfying to see him get smoked by his ex-team that beat him by being a great team.
 

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I'm trying to be objective here. Kyrie's skills can be otherworldly, as that game 1 performance showed (and which I witnessed live). He has that championship with Cleveland where he hit the winning shot. He might be the best ballhandler in the history of the NBA (Isaiah Thomas (DET) is the only one I think may rival him). Yet, he really kind of sucked in the last 3 games of this series. He's a selfish person and a shitty teammate (quit on the celtics and took a "stand" against vaccinations and quit on Brooklyn in the process). He doesn't seem to care at all. Notwithstanding his brilliant skills, I don't really know how to characterize his NBA value at this point, but it's pretty fucking satisfying to see him get smoked by his ex-team that beat him by being a great team.
He's a top-10 player offensively. And his defense, while bad, isn't as bad as some of the other top scorers like Young, Lillard, Mitchell, or Booker. It's close in some cases, but he's miles better than Trae and maybe half as bad as Dame.

If that Nets team was actually built more like Milwaukee, this would have been a tougher series. Pretty much a jag team though, once you get past the big two. For all of the talk of Nash being outcoached (and I'm sure that he was), the tools in his toolbox were all pretty dull.
 

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He's a top-10 player offensively. And his defense, while bad, isn't as bad as some of the other top scorers like Young, Lillard, Mitchell, or Booker. It's close in some cases, but he's miles better than Trae and maybe half as bad as Dame.

If that Nets team was actually built more like Milwaukee, this would have been a tougher series. Pretty much a jag team though, once you get past the big two. For all of the talk of Nash being outcoached (and I'm sure that he was), the tools in his toolbox were all pretty dull.
I actually think the Nets role players, particularly Curry and Brown, played pretty well throughout the series. Durant and Kyrie taking turns laying eggs was what sunk them.
 

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I actually think the Nets role players, particularly Curry and Brown, played pretty well throughout the series. Durant and Kyrie taking turns laying eggs was what sunk them.
The Nets rotation and role players being nothing special is why we could make Durant and Kyrie look that bad, IMO. YMMV.
 

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Are the Nets going to offer Kyrie the 5 year/247M contract he is eligible for once he declines his option?

Seems awfully rich for an oft injured 30 year old head case who never likes to play defense and sometimes doesn't like to play at all.

Are there other teams out there that even want him at close to that commitment?
 

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He's a top-10 player offensively. And his defense, while bad, isn't as bad as some of the other top scorers like Young, Lillard, Mitchell, or Booker. It's close in some cases, but he's miles better than Trae and maybe half as bad as Dame.
Is he actually a top-10 player offensively? He doesn't create for his teammates once he draws attention nearly as well as you'd want. He's obviously really really good on that end, but I've started to think that we overrate him due to Sick Handlez.

We've now seen Kyrie, on good teams, be a complete non-factor in 2 of the last 3 postseasons he's been in.

View: https://twitter.com/ScottCacciola/status/1518776026305810433


Lol, Kyrie no-shows the last 3 games, then says he plans to re-sign but also promotes himself to co-gm and part-owner
wait what this was a real quote??????
 

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Is he actually a top-10 player offensively? He doesn't create for his teammates once he draws attention nearly as well as you'd want. He's obviously really really good on that end, but I've started to think that we overrate him due to Sick Handlez.

We've now seen Kyrie, on good teams, be a complete non-factor in 2 of the last 3 postseasons he's been in.


wait what this was a real quote??????
View: https://youtu.be/vAYSrvXVGcs
Go to the 7 minute mark.
 

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“We build…”

How about this, Kyrie? Shut up, show up, and let the actual team management figure out how to build it.

This guy hasn’t earned the right to talk like he controls everything. If I were a Nets fan…. Ugh.
 

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“We build…”

How about this, Kyrie? Shut up, show up, and let the actual team management figure out how to build it.

This guy hasn’t earned the right to talk like he controls everything. If I were a Nets fan…. Ugh.
Just for kicks, I took a spin over at r/GoNets. Kyrie is getting crucified overall, but people are going especially nuts over this comment.
 

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Are the Nets going to offer Kyrie the 5 year/247M contract he is eligible for once he declines his option?

Seems awfully rich for an oft injured 30 year old head case who never likes to play defense and sometimes doesn't like to play at all.

Are there other teams out there that even want him at close to that commitment?
The alternative is losing him for nothing, so yeah they really don't have a choice unless he wanted to leave and they could work out some sort of S+T somewhere.

Obviously we clowned them this series, but a team that actually has Kyrie Simmons Durant and Harris for a full season is a favorite in the east next year.
 

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The alternative is losing him for nothing, so yeah they really don't have a choice unless he wanted to leave and they could work out some sort of S+T somewhere.

Obviously we clowned them this series, but a team that actually has Kyrie Simmons Durant and Harris for a full season is a favorite in the east next year.
I think it’s 50/50 at this point that BS never plays a game for the Nets.
 

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That comes down to what KD thinks doesn’t it? If he’s out on Simmons I do think Nets could dump him. I doubt KD goes there because best path to contention is Simmons reigning to pre 2021 form.

I also agree they would have to subsidize given contract and that’s tough given their (lack of) picks. But there’s always Westbrook!
 

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He's due 110m over the next 3 years. No one is trading for that, .1% chance he's walking away from that.
But for teams that don't traditionally draw free agents and seem to be in the wrong place at the wrong time draft-wise (think Orlando and Sacramento), these type of trades are really their only road to an immediate infusion of talent. And it only takes one. There is a high likelihood that BS is a bridge too far, but it only takes one team to talk themselves into it. The sticking point will be what quality of player they would give up for Simmons.

For shits and giggles I looked up Orlando's and Sacramento's salaries, and it would take a bit to work up to Simmons' salary. And while they could throw a bunch of nickels and dimes together, I bet Brooklyn will feel pressure to show some decent return in a trade even though they did also receive Seth Curry in the Harden deal.

Also what @PedroKsBambino says: if the Nets stars are out on Simmons then they'll be willing to trade him for flotsam and jetsam. Otherwise I bet the motivation to move him won't overlap the quality of player other teams would be willing to give up (for this season, at least).
 

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I could see plenty of offers better than Westbrook out there for Simmons. You've got lots of peripheral or basement dwelling teams that could move various assets including draft picks for a crack at him (e.g. Portland, Orlando, etc.)
 

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The Celtics played good D of course, but I Kyrie should get a lot of blame for his performance in this series. Durant was clearly the focus of the D but he still got some things done outside of game 3 when he tried to pass too much. It was wild how little I noticed Kyrie after game 1. I also felt like while he's not a good defender he's usually more pesky than he was. Again, maybe the Celtics just did a great job but you need your stars to be your stars.

Not to mention, a huge reason they had defensive and offensive lapses and looked like they weren't all comfortable in their roles was because he selfishly missed half the season.

It makes you wonder what kind of situation it might take for him to be successful (outside of playing with prime LeBron i guess)
 

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Well, they switched Smart on Kyrie and at some point Kyrie realized it was futile. Probably after 1 measly game, given his post game press conference about the Celtics being in their title window following Game 2.