OBJ signs with LA Rams. Wait, maybe the Packers... no it is the Rams.
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Packers would be an ideal fit for both sides - they have all the reason to push their chips in now, and everyone not named Davante Adams on the depth chart would benefit from being pushed down a slot. OBJ gets to be a top 2 target and the team is already a legitimate Super Bowl contender. Chiefs would make sense for similar reasons, though he'd realistically be third fiddle to Hill and Kelce and might not like what he's seen of the Hardman/Pringle/Gordon role.
I don't really see the Ravens as a fit (also I started typing this before seeing the tweet above) - Hollywood is 100% better than him and it's a reasonable bet both Andrews and Bateman are as well. I like the Saints as a dark horse, but I'm not sure I'd want to tie a pretty important strike I have left to Taysom Hill and Trevor Siemian on a team that isn't even a lock for the postseason. I guess that's kind of the same situation the Patriots are in, to be fair.
One thing I think that has to be somewhat interesting to him as far as the Pats and Saints are concerned, but not the Packers - if he's at all looking at this as a two sided tryout for a long term fit, Green Bay should probably be out given that success in 2022 and beyond there looks tenuous at best.
I don't really see the Ravens as a fit (also I started typing this before seeing the tweet above) - Hollywood is 100% better than him and it's a reasonable bet both Andrews and Bateman are as well. I like the Saints as a dark horse, but I'm not sure I'd want to tie a pretty important strike I have left to Taysom Hill and Trevor Siemian on a team that isn't even a lock for the postseason. I guess that's kind of the same situation the Patriots are in, to be fair.
One thing I think that has to be somewhat interesting to him as far as the Pats and Saints are concerned, but not the Packers - if he's at all looking at this as a two sided tryout for a long term fit, Green Bay should probably be out given that success in 2022 and beyond there looks tenuous at best.
I imagine a 2-year deal would look a lot like Revis' where it's really a short-money one year deal that looks like a big money 2-year deal.
Do people think OBJ looks at Seattle and KC and thinks he’d be a WR3? I imagine he thinks he’s better than Metcalf and Hill and would go in as the star. He’s not right of course, but I’d be shocked if he’s making decisions based on his true, current talent level.
Those skills being the inability to run the proper route?
I really hope he doesn't come here. There was a reason Baker Mayfield was a competent QB when throwing to any receiver not named OBJ.
Physical talent doesn't help much if you aren't where you are supposed to be when the QB is throwing to where you should be not where you want to be.
I think this is correct. I'm guessing OBJ really wants to go to a team with an elite QB that is in playoff contention. Green Bay probably checks those boxes the best.
I don't think he is worried about competing against other receivers. I'm pretty sure he thought Baker was the problem in Cleveland and playing with an elite QB will solve that issue.
I think he probably far overestimates his current skill level, but I imagine he's smart enough to know Seattle is the 3rd best (at best) team in their division and there are two very credible targets to share the ball with regardless of where he falls in the target heirarchy. KC is similar in terms of the competition for the ball, but the passing volume is higher and the teams ahead of them in the division race are much more catchable.
Green Bay makes so much more sense than any other 2021 option, but I can talk myself into believing the Belichick factor and potential to be here for more than 8 games + postseason could move the needle enough to make it happen. Payton and the wide open depth chart at WR might make NO similarly attractive, though I don't think it's homer glasses to prefer the New England QB situation (and not playing in the same division as Brady).
I’m a little conflicted on whether OBJ would be a good fit for this Patriots team and Mac’s development but I think it’s interesting that a high profile guy sees the post-Brady Patriots as a preferred destination.
I’m in favor of OBJ. This receiving corp is pedestrian and needs help. He isn’t 2014 Odell anymore but he’d still likely be the best WR on the team from day 1. The Pats are right in the mix for both the division and a wild card spot and the time is right for some reinforcements. He’d give defenses something new to think about, which is always good.
As for potential impact on Mac, I’m not really concerned about a regression of his development from a couple months of a temperamental WR. He’ll be fine.
As for potential impact on Mac, I’m not really concerned about a regression of his development from a couple months of a temperamental WR. He’ll be fine.
This is where I’ve arrived. I’m not thrilled with the prospect, mind you, but from a purely practical perspective it would be worth it.
I definitely don’t see him destroying Mac or the team, that’s hysterical (and I don’t mean funny) stuff that’s emerged as a strawman narrative.
I've come around to being in favor. If he's a distraction, he'll be gone. If he's unproductive, he'll be gone.
I doubt he's headed to NE, but I'm intrigued enough to see what would happen
I'll trust BB on this one, especially if the cost is minimal. If he thinks he can get OBJ to play nice in the sandbox for half a season to earn his next contract, I say go for it.
And there is upside here given he’s still only 29 and there’s a chance he could come back if things go well.
Like you, I doubt NE is the destination but I hope BB pursues.
I was also on #teamab so I do tend to have blinders on with these risk/reward situations.
He wasn't a bad move from a talent perspective, but was a risk because he's an asshole and there were questions about his character before they signed him. I wanted no part of AB. If there are similar OBJ allegations I don't want him either.
Edit: by character on AB I mean the accusations off the field, not the on-the-field nonsense that I am aware of from OBJ.
Edit: by character on AB I mean the accusations off the field, not the on-the-field nonsense that I am aware of from OBJ.
Well, except for the fact that he had been a massive headache at two stops and that shouldn’t have been surprising. It wasn’t just that he had charges filed against him. It was a high risk move particularly given their cap situation at the time (that I supported BTW) and they got burned.
Sometimes risks work, sometimes they don’t. If he had kept his personal stuff in order and the Pats went on to title 7 we wouldn’t have called it a bad move. It worked out great for the Bucs last year.
Worked out great for the Bucs so long as you don't mind having that kind of guy on your team. YMMV. Taking a risk on a guy like OBJ who is a selfish asshole but who hasn't been accused of any crime (assuming that is true) is a different kind of risk than what they took when they signed AB.
If, ifs and buts. Fact is, it didn't work out in NE. AB was a bad move. They gave large guarantee to a high risk. There was little surprise he didn't work out here.
TB have him a contract for a lot less with no guarantee.
OBJ is a different risk profile though. Still wouldn't want to give him much guarantee but doubt he gets that anyway. Otherwise, he likely would have been claimed.
I do agree GB seems most likely destination.
TB have him a contract for a lot less with no guarantee.
OBJ is a different risk profile though. Still wouldn't want to give him much guarantee but doubt he gets that anyway. Otherwise, he likely would have been claimed.
I do agree GB seems most likely destination.
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Problem is they’re 4-5 with games against BUF, TB, NE, AZ, LV remaining. Can’t imagine OBJ would be too interested in that situation. Odds of making the playoffs are pretty low.
My point with AB was that pre allegations, he was just a locker room headache, even if a major one. That's the state he signed with the Pats in, and given his performance for TB, if his assholeishness was limited to the asshole they thought they were getting based on how he acted in Pittsburgh and Oakland, it would have been a good move. I'm glad that Kraft and BB decided they don't want the kind of guy it turns out he actually is on the team, and it's unfortunate that didn't come to light before they wasted 9 million or however many $$ on him. It blew up spectacularly very quickly, but I don't think it had much to do at all with any character concerns that were public knowledge at the time he was released from Oakland and signed here.
Enough of a digression: this team has a pretty good track record with getting guys who are garden variety assholes to put up or shut up, and thus I'm pretty open to the idea that 29 year old, past his prime OBJ is just a garden variety asshole who also happens to still be more talented than any WR on the roster.
Enough of a digression: this team has a pretty good track record with getting guys who are garden variety assholes to put up or shut up, and thus I'm pretty open to the idea that 29 year old, past his prime OBJ is just a garden variety asshole who also happens to still be more talented than any WR on the roster.
I haven't seen that much of Odell with the Browns. But I just watched that whole "Every time Odell has been open and Baker missed him" video on Youtube, which is basically just a bunch of All-22 film, and a couple things really jump out (beyond whatever Baker was doing). First, he plays the X receiver a lot and is still pretty good at getting off the line against press. Second, he is still a really tough assignment in man coverage, especially without safety help over the top.
Even with the baggage, I'd take the risk if we could convince him to come. He could definitely bust but if things work out he could be transformative for the offense.
Even with the baggage, I'd take the risk if we could convince him to come. He could definitely bust but if things work out he could be transformative for the offense.
Disagree. He was a fucking headache that year and had more than enough luggage in just the prior two weeks. They were up against the cap, and signing AB made it so that the only options they had at the trade dead line had to be cheap options. I HATED that move.
I wouldn't hate the OBJ move quite as much, but man I really don't want him.
Guys, Nelson Agholor blows. He has one TD catch in the last eight weeks and it was on a trick play pass from Kendrick Bourne.
We'd be crazy not to roll the dice on OBJ as a potential huge improvement as our X-receiver/deep threat. This is the kind of move that actually gives you a chance (if it works out) to be a much more dangerous team. If it doesn't work, then no big loss.
We'd be crazy not to roll the dice on OBJ as a potential huge improvement as our X-receiver/deep threat. This is the kind of move that actually gives you a chance (if it works out) to be a much more dangerous team. If it doesn't work, then no big loss.
I can’t imagine Bill let’s OBJ fuck with Mac’s development. It’s a weird year in the NFL. This team can make the playoffs and maybe got lucky, why not roll the dice?
I called it a pipe dream at the deadline. It's now us vs GB and he'd be the number 1 here with a better head coach. I don't see how this would mess with Mac in a negative way. The kid has shown nothing in the sense of letting any nonsense get to him. This would be so big for this team this year. He would help take this offense to the next level. Not to mention who we're playing Sunday.
Yeah, at this point I'd happily sign up for OBJ's potential. Of the receiving options we signed, Henry and Bourne have had their moments and Smith has occasionally looked useful, but Agholor has been garbage. Losing White really hurts (although Bolden is looking more and more like a serviceable poor man's version). Our #1 receiver has as many TD receptions as I do, and N'Keal Harry continues to be invisible. Sign me up for a receiver with actual talent (lazy or not), our offense could really use an infusion (especially with our RBs decimated).
This is where I'm at. It's a roll of the dice, but I'd love to take a crack at it.