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Not really a "forgot he was a Sox" - but I never would have named Stephen Drew as the starting ShortStop in 2013. If someone asked me "did Stephen Drew play for the Sox?",, I would have answered yes. but I never would have freely volunteered that... if that makes sense?
 

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So what are the odds that Kyle Schwarber is mentioned in this thread circa 20 years from now? Hopefully he creates some great October memories for us a la Steve Pierce, but he's hurt, he doesn't seem to have a position, he's had a volatile career, he's probably gone after this season and there's no guarantee right now that we play in October.
 

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Yup. My old man took me to that game for my birthday. We had good seats sort of behind the plate (we usually sat 1st base grandstand/infield ) One of the most hyped Fenway pitching match-ups I remember.

Blue was young phenom, off to a great start and was IIRC 10-1, and Seibert was 9-0. It wasn't the pitching gem as advertised but it was a pretty good game, and Seibert got the W.
Siebert's OPS was over 800 in 1971 and in the 600s in 1972. 12 career homers.
 

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Ricky Henderson.
Really good Henderson story from when he was with the Sox. Someone who was with the Sox, and I can’t recall who, used to lose his hat on his pitching delivery or lost his helmet as he swung, Ricky said “I used to play with someone else who did that.” He looked at Rickey and said, Rickey, that was me.” Henderson did not recall playing with the guy.
 

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Really good Henderson story from when he was with the Sox. Someone who was with the Sox, and I can’t recall who, used to lose his hat on his pitching delivery or lost his helmet as he swung, Ricky said “I used to play with someone else who did that.” He looked at Rickey and said, Rickey, that was me.” Henderson did not recall playing with the guy.
This was the John Olerud story.

Rickey: I used to play with a guy who wore a helmet when he played first base.

Olerud: that was meRickey.

Unfortunately, the story isn’t true.

The last day of the season that Rickey was with the Sox, the team gave him a car and drove it on the field for the presentation.

“Who’s car is that,” Rickey supposedly asked. “It’s ugly as hell.”
 

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For me, I think of this thread as not of "can you name the starting 9 in 1993", but more of " huh, that person actually played for the sox?" Benny A is the only one I had to look up... I mean, Paul Byrd? There was a thread here detailing his pitch tipping. I should just say Manny Ortiz and close the thread..
 

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I know I'm not the only one here who'd love to hear more tales from that time. Do you have memories of '49's final fateful weekend?
You're right, could be time to bust out a new thread on way back in the day.
All I remember is that there were reports of the Sunday game from Yankee Stadium during the Braves broadcast. I am almost certain there was no actual broadcast or telecast of the fateful game in Boston. In those days the Braves and the Red Sox broadcast only their home games with Jim Britt as the announcer. It was 1951 when the teams decided to do road games as well. Britt had to choose and he picked the Braves. The Sox then brought over Curt Gowdy from the Yankees as their play by play man.

I turned eight that summer and became a compulsive reader. The earliest item I remember reading about baseball was the Yankees' purchase of Johnny Mize from the New York Giants on August 22, 1949. I remember thinking, "Oh this not be good for the Red Sox."

In keeping with the thread, Pete Abraham over the weekend mentioned Tony Muser who had two at bats, I think. He went on to a career as a utility man and managed the A's for about five years in the late 90's.I
 

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I'm going to chime in with the late Vic Wertz. He is famous for two matters: first, he batted the fly ball regarding which Willy Mays made "The Catch"; and second, he returned to playing baseball after having contracted polio. But I don't think that his time on the Red Sox in the late 1950's and early 1960's is a matter of common knowledge/remembrance. Incidentally, I'm enjoying the posting-presence in this Discussion of people who are even older than my 73.
 

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This was the John Olerud story.

Rickey: I used to play with a guy who wore a helmet when he played first base.

Olerud: that was meRickey.

Unfortunately, the story isn’t true.

The last day of the season that Rickey was with the Sox, the team gave him a car and drove it on the field for the presentation.

“Who’s car is that,” Rickey supposedly asked. “It’s ugly as hell.”
Another:

Once in the late 1980s, the New York Yankees sent Henderson a six-figure signing-bonus check. After a few months passed, an internal audit revealed that the check had not been cashed. Brian Cashman, then a low-level executive with the club, called Henderson to ask if there was a problem with the check.
“No problem,” Henderson said. “I’m just waiting for the money market rates to go up.”

Washington Post.
 

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I'm going to chime in with the late Vic Wertz. He is famous for two matters: first, he batted the fly ball regarding which Willy Mays made "The Catch"; and second, he returned to playing baseball after having contracted polio. But I don't think that his time on the Red Sox in the late 1950's and early 1960's is a matter of common knowledge/remembrance. Incidentally, I'm enjoying the posting-presence in this Discussion of people who are even older than my 73.
I'd mentioned Wertz (thread post #284), but I'd never heard of his getting polio. That was a scary disease, no doubt.
 

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Another:

Once in the late 1980s, the New York Yankees sent Henderson a six-figure signing-bonus check. After a few months passed, an internal audit revealed that the check had not been cashed. Brian Cashman, then a low-level executive with the club, called Henderson to ask if there was a problem with the check.
“No problem,” Henderson said. “I’m just waiting for the money market rates to go up.”

Washington Post.
He also did something similar in Oakland when he was issued a million dollar check at the beginning of the year and never cashed it. At the end of
season A’s bean counters were down a million and couldn’t figure out why, GM Sandy Alserson Had an idea and visited Rickey at house.

There he found the check framed on Rickey’s wall, unsigned. He had to tell Rickey that the check needed to be endorsed in order for him to actually have the cash.

I’m not sure how true the story is, but it’s out there in the ether.
 

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So what are the odds that Kyle Schwarber is mentioned in this thread circa 20 years from now? Hopefully he creates some great October memories for us a la Steve Pierce, but he's hurt, he doesn't seem to have a position, he's had a volatile career, he's probably gone after this season and there's no guarantee right now that we play in October.
Well I had to look it up to find out/recall whether Allen Craig actually ever played for the Red Sox.
 

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I'm going to chime in with the late Vic Wertz. He is famous for two matters: first, he batted the fly ball regarding which Willy Mays made "The Catch"; and second, he returned to playing baseball after having contracted polio. But I don't think that his time on the Red Sox in the late 1950's and early 1960's is a matter of common knowledge/remembrance. Incidentally, I'm enjoying the posting-presence in this Discussion of people who are even older than my 73.
Right, Wertz put up some big numbers with the Tigers and Indians, but he also had one pretty good and one fairly decent year with the Red Sox. The Sox gave up Jimmy Piersall to get him along with Gary Geiger. The trade was made by Tom Yawkey himself during the interregnum after Joe Cronin moved up to become president of the American League. I didn't like the trade at the time because I thought that Piersall was the most exciting player on a lifeless team.

But as I look at the numbers, the Sox won the trade. Piersall, although he stayed around through much of the 60's, really had only two good years after he left, and Wertz was good value, and Geiger had three good years in center field. He got injured at age 26 and his career ended prematurely. One of many what might have beens from that era..
 

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Right, Wertz put up some big numbers with the Tigers and Indians, but he also had one pretty good and one fairly decent year with the Red Sox. The Sox gave up Jimmy Piersall to get him along with Gary Geiger. The trade was made by Tom Yawkey himself during the interregnum after Joe Cronin moved up to become president of the American League. I didn't like the trade at the time because I thought that Piersall was the most exciting player on a lifeless team.

But as I look at the numbers, the Sox won the trade. Piersall, although he stayed around through much of the 60's, really had only two good years after he left, and Wertz was good value, and Geiger had three good years in center field. He got injured at age 26 and his career ended prematurely. One of many what might have beens from that era..
1st baseball game I saw live was at Yankee Stadium and VW and Ted both went yard in I think a come from behind 11-4/5/6 win Someone hit a slam and I think it was Wertz. Back to back maybe? I'm tryin to use my brain to remember. I have an autographed Gary Geiger glossy in a box someplace.
 

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For some reason, I always thought that Mike Macfarlane was some aging catcher they brought in and would be a candidate for "ending their career with the Sox. He signed as a free agent at the age of 31.

I had no idea that Pat Mahomes pitched for 2 seasons here.

Was Wes Chamberlain at one point a top-10 prospect for the Phillies?

Tuffy Rhodes ended his MLB career here before becoming a Japanese league legend.

I also thought that Milt Cuyler had a decent MLB career...he did not and I had no idea he played a full season for the Sox.
 

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For some reason, I always thought that Mike Macfarlane was some aging catcher they brought in and would be a candidate for "ending their career with the Sox. He signed as a free agent at the age of 31.

I had no idea that Pat Mahomes pitched for 2 seasons here.

Was Wes Chamberlain at one point a top-10 prospect for the Phillies?

Tuffy Rhodes ended his MLB career here before becoming a Japanese league legend.

I also thought that Milt Cuyler had a decent MLB career...he did not and I had no idea he played a full season for the Sox.
Was Milt Cuyler a defensive wizard? Trying to wrap my head around how he had a 4 WAR season in 1991 while posting a .672 OPS.
 

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Was Milt Cuyler a defensive wizard? Trying to wrap my head around how he had a 4 WAR season in 1991 while posting a .672 OPS.
He was 8th in defensive WAR that year (1.9), and had very good running stats, 41 steals on 51 attempts.
 

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I have enjoyed reading this thread, especially the mention of Vic Wertz, who died July 7, 1983. That grand slam was August 14, 1959. How do I remember? I had mentioned it in a poem I wrote about memories of my dad called "Bits of Amber". Incidentally, Hoot Evers was mentioned in the same poem. So thanks, beautokyo and bernardsamuel, for helping me revisit some pleasant times.
 

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This was the John Olerud story.

Rickey: I used to play with a guy who wore a helmet when he played first base.

Olerud: that was meRickey.

Unfortunately, the story isn’t true.

The last day of the season that Rickey was with the Sox, the team gave him a car and drove it on the field for the presentation.

“Who’s car is that,” Rickey supposedly asked. “It’s ugly as hell.”
Rickey stories are the best. When he was asked what car he wanted, he said John Henry's Mercedes. When they said it would be hard to get that model in time, he told them that no, he wanted Henry's actual car.
 

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I'm 70 and remember Vic Wertz playing for the Sox. In fact, he played 2 full and one part year w/them. Had no clue until years later he was the same guy that hit the ball Mays caught; in fact, I probably didn't see Mays' catch until the mid 60s.
I'm going to chime in with the late Vic Wertz. He is famous for two matters: first, he batted the fly ball regarding which Willy Mays made "The Catch"; and second, he returned to playing baseball after having contracted polio. But I don't think that his time on the Red Sox in the late 1950's and early 1960's is a matter of common knowledge/remembrance. Incidentally, I'm enjoying the posting-presence in this Discussion of people who are even older than my 73.
 

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Has anyone thrown out Larry Andersen as a joke yet? I hope not because it's not particularly funny (for at least two reasons, one of them being it's just not that funny).
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I don't think he qualifies. He is someone everyone remembers because of who he was traded for.
 

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Theo seemed to have a soft spot for veteran 1B to platoon/back up Millar and then Youkilis, but all were brought in for just one season or less: Olerud, Snow, Hinske, Casey, LaRoche, Kotchman.

You left out the most obvious defensive replacement, Doug Mientkiewicz, maybe he qualifies, even though he was on the 2004 team. Does anyone form 2004 count? The only starter I sometimes struggle to remember is Mark Bellhorn. But he had some huge hits.
 

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Jeff Gray. And OK RP in '90 then one of the top setup men in MLB in '91. Unfortunetly, had a stroke and never got back to MLB. One of those guys who I always wondered what happened to, and if he was at least able to live out an everyday life.
Pretty good reliever for a period of time when the Sox weren't very good, BUT We used to call him the human rain delay because he pitched so slowly.
 

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Mike Stanley was a pretty important Sox for a couple of reasons:

1. He was the protection behind Mo Vaughn.

2. He was traded to the Yankees in exchange for Tony Armas Jr., who was flipped three months later for a skinny right handed named Pedro Martinez.

So he’s a memorable dude. Or should be.
Stanley hit over 70 HRs for Boston.
 

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Yes, John Valentine was a great Sox gem in my opinion and just read this , which is pretty cool "On July 8, 1994, Valentin turned the 10th unassisted triple play in MLB history, in a game against the Mariners.[a] Playing shortstop in the 6th inning, Valentin caught Marc Newfield's line drive, tagged second base before Mike Blowers could return to tag up, and tagged out Keith Mitchell who had been attempting to advance to second base.[ " He and Mo Vaughn were a terrific combo both om offense and defense. In fact they played together .at Seton Hall says WIKI.

If we did a thread of "underappreciated players". I would add a few with whom folks may not agree, but whom I actually watch-followed when they played for the sox: Mo Vaughn who makes top ten on my all time fave list and Bill Buckner who was a Curt Schilling type only IMO even more heart and team spirit who became IMO the historical "Judas Goat" for a World Series loss that belongs to poor final game managing (leaving him in past the point he could literally stand) and pitching errors. Just sayin.

This is a post from someone who knows baseball. Buckner is remembered for booting a ball after the game was already tied. There were so many mistakes in that inning and in that game. To pin the blame on Buckner was one of the saddest and most unfair things in the coverage of Red Sox baseball history.
 

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Great catch. I always referred to an unnecessary diving catch, or a diving catch necessitated by lack of speed or taking a bad route, as a "Brunansky catch." My memory of him in RF was a lot of unnecessary diving. But in this case, the dive, and the catch, were legit.
The opposite would be a JD Drew catch (or non catch). I don't recall ever seeing a grass stain on his uniform.
 

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You left out the most obvious defensive replacement, Doug Mientkiewicz, maybe he qualifies, even though he was on the 2004 team. Does anyone form 2004 count? The only starter I sometimes struggle to remember is Mark Bellhorn. But he had some huge hits.
The guy who ended the 2004 WS with the ball in his hand? I don’t think anyone forgot him.

btw, you can do “multi quote” on the board
 

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The guy who ended the 2004 WS with the ball in his hand? I don’t think anyone forgot him.
btw, you can do “multi quote” on the board
Sorry, I was responding to someone who commented that Epstein used to like to get back-up 1st basemen as defensive replacements for the likes of Millar etc. and listed five while not mentioning Mientkiewicz, but maybe he left him out on purpose because of his notoriety. I have discovered that you can do a "multi quote" entry, but I was reading through the entire thread and responding individually to comments on pages separated by a lot. I also noticed that often other people would have already responded in the same manner to posts from earlier pages.

Danny Cater would be totally forgettable, ... except for the fact that we gave up Sparky Lyle to get him.

Hall of fame broadcaster, Jon Miller whom I really revere, was a Sox broadcaster from 1980-1982.
 

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The outfield is still terrible; not sure what it means that we've had quite a few infielders with very solid careers take their swan song with us
Your post made me think of Dick McCauliffe who I thought only played one season for the Sox after a long stint with the Tigers, but I see he played one season plus 7 more games for the Sox. I remember him (at 3B, IIRC) butchering an infield pop-up at Fenway that led the entire crowd to conclude he was cooked as a professional ballplayer.
 

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Amidst all the reminiscing of trade deadlines past, one guy who seems forgotten, but was seen as a big pick up at the time for the 2013 team (they didn’t get just Peavy!) was Matt Thornton, a LHP from the ChiSox who was acquired two weeks prior to the deadline for power hitting prospect Brandon Jacobs.

I recall Thornton being awful, but it seems that he was mostly unlucky (3.52 ERA and 1.76 WHIP, but 0 HR and only 5 BB in 15 innings resulted in a 2.85 FIP).

Nevertheless, he quickly fell out of favor down the stretch, another in a long line of LH reliever misses by the Sox (Sauerbeck, Schoeneweis, Abad, Remlinger, etc), and didn’t make the postseason roster; leaving the LH relief glory in that series to Craig Breslow, Franklin Morales, and Felix Doubront.

(Honorable mentions….Chris Capuano, John Halama,, Joe Oliver, Shane Andrews, Jose Cruz Jr).
 

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When our sons were still in HS, I used to run into Tony Clark often enough at HS track meets and back-to-school nights and the like, and I never really thought of him as a Red Sox.
Clark OPS+ from age 25-33

128
126
120
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I know the argument was as head of the MLBPA he was distracted by labor negotiations, but that’s one of the more head scratching WTF seasons by a guy in recent memory. Somewhat similar, but nearly as bad was Mike Lowell’s age 31 season with the Marlins the year before the Sox got him.
 

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Can anyone recall Chris Nabholz (a) coming to the Red Sox from Cleveland for closer Jeff Russell; and (b) pitching quite poorly in 8 starts in 1994, including a 1 inning start in the final game before the player's strike ended the season, a 17-7 loss? Nabholz was followed by Scott Bankhead, Chris Howard, Todd Frowirth, and Tony Fossas. Eek.
 

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Can anyone recall Chris Nabholz (a) coming to the Red Sox from Cleveland for closer Jeff Russell; and (b) pitching quite poorly in 8 starts in 1994, including a 1 inning start in the final game before the player's strike ended the season, a 17-7 loss? Nabholz was followed by Scott Bankhead, Chris Howard, Todd Frowirth, and Tony Fossas. Eek.
Nabholz came in that trade along with the veteran reliever Steve Farr, who wasn't much better (6.23 ERA in 13 IP).
 

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Can anyone recall Chris Nabholz (a) coming to the Red Sox from Cleveland for closer Jeff Russell; and (b) pitching quite poorly in 8 starts in 1994, including a 1 inning start in the final game before the player's strike ended the season, a 17-7 loss? Nabholz was followed by Scott Bankhead, Chris Howard, Todd Frowirth, and Tony Fossas. Eek.
i distinctively recall watching that game. Was it against Texas, maybe? It had a strange vibe to it because no one knew for sure if the players were going to strike but it was also pretty likely that if so, it was Hobson’s last game as manager.

I also recall some situation with Steve Farr (or it may have been Bankhead) where it was unclear if he was going to report as there had been some tragedy in his family; I believe a relative was killed in the NYC subway? I don’t know why I remember this…

(Nope, it was the Twins…)
 

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Can anyone recall Chris Nabholz (a) coming to the Red Sox from Cleveland for closer Jeff Russell; and (b) pitching quite poorly in 8 starts in 1994, including a 1 inning start in the final game before the player's strike ended the season, a 17-7 loss? Nabholz was followed by Scott Bankhead, Chris Howard, Todd Frowirth, and Tony Fossas. Eek.
That was against Baltimore, right?

I totally forgot Steve Pearce existed between mid '19 and this thread, to be honest.
 

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Holy crap I forgot about Cecchini. Was excited for him but he just couldn't figure out AAA pitching.
 

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Can anyone recall Chris Nabholz (a) coming to the Red Sox from Cleveland for closer Jeff Russell; and (b) pitching quite poorly in 8 starts in 1994, including a 1 inning start in the final game before the player's strike ended the season, a 17-7 loss? Nabholz was followed by Scott Bankhead, Chris Howard, Todd Frowirth, and Tony Fossas. Eek.
There was also something going on where the Sox called up everyone they could from Pawtucket that had a major league contract; in order to avoid having to pay them during the strike. Some of the above were part of that and the last couple of weeks of the 1994 season were an utter embarrassment.
 

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Calvin Pickering. Anyone mention him?

Would Shank nowadays nickname him "The Green Mile" like he did 20 years ago?