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The Gray Eagle

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He's got an ERA+ of 86.

Workman was at 95 when he was DFA'd. As is, Hansel's season slots in between Matt Andriese at 78 and Austin Brice at 72.
Wait, you're defending Workman now? Haven't you been demanding his release in the game threads for weeks?

We've already gotten that guy a few times over this year.
Yes, that's why this season has been so terrible. Why can't it be like it was last year?
 

StuckOnYouk

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15 minutes ago:
"Why the hell hasn't Bloom traded for anyone else? It's a total failure to stand pat with this pitching staff! He absolutely should have traded for a pitcher, a reliever at the very least!"
Now:
"Why the hell did Bloom trade for Robles?? That guy sucks, we never should have traded for him!"
Yeah, you may not be aware but people were hoping for a quality reliever, not one of the worst relievers over the last two months. I'm not with the group that demands action, but I'd rather have had inaction when it comes to the bullpen if it meant giving up Scherff for Robles.
 

canyoubelieveit

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15 minutes ago:
"Why the hell hasn't Bloom traded for anyone else? It's a total failure to stand pat with this pitching staff! He absolutely should have traded for a pitcher, a reliever at the very least!"
Now:
"Why the hell did Bloom trade for Robles?? That guy sucks, we never should have traded for him!"
It's okay to be frustrated when the food you ordered is very late, and then to be frustrated again once it arrives when it's the wrong order and not something you like.
 

The Gray Eagle

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Yeah, you may not be aware but people were hoping for a quality reliever, not one of the worst relievers over the last two months.
You may not be aware, but it's not logically consistent to bash the guy for not making a trade but then also bash him for making a trade.
Sorry you don't like the guy he brought in, but he brought in a guy, and the complaint 20 minutes ago was that he didn't bring in a guy.
 

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Lots of bitching and moaning in here and I get it. But this year’s team has been compared to the 2013 team and what was their big deadline move that year? Trading for Peavy, who at that point had produced 0.7 bWAR.

This year, the Sox got Schwarber, who’s already put up 2.5 bWAR. Yes, he’s injured and he can’t be as hot as he was in June but there’s no reason he can’t be as impactful as Peavy or more and the Sox gave up less. So I’m not really willing to say this was a failure of a deadline by the Sox.

(I do think it’s true that the Sox face a really tough road in the postseason - to win the WS they’ll have to go through something like Rays, then Astros, then Dodgers - so I do wonder if Chaim just did an odds calculus and determined this isn’t the year to go all in despite their current record, which I could kind of understand.)
 

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Brings them to a full -1 WAR in pitchers acquired today. In Bloom we trust indeed.
They did not have the assets to make the kinds of deals you wanted, in the context of this market . Schwarber was a borderline steal, and relievers are mostly unpredictable, so taking a flyer on a couple of low cost guys is a worthwhile depth move. But we get it, you don't like Bloom.
 

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Wait, you're defending Workman now? Haven't you been demanding his release in the game threads for weeks?
I thought I was mocking his shitty performance and white flag usage. Demanding? Well, my goodness. Whose ear do I have!?!

And, I'm not defending Workman here, so much as pointing out the pointlessness of this trade.
 

StuckOnYouk

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You may not be aware, but it's not logically consistent to bash the guy for not making a trade but then also bash him for making a trade.
Sorry you don't like the guy he brought in, but he brought in a guy, and the complaint 20 minutes ago was that he didn't bring in a guy.
You may not be aware, but people aren't pining for Bloom to bring in just ANYONE on an MLB roster.

I had no problem with him holding at our deal last night. And I like the Chavis trade. The Robles one doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe Scherff was a potential rule V guy?
 

moondog80

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They did not have the assets to make the kinds of deals you wanted, in the context of this market . Schwarber was a borderline steal, and relievers are mostly unpredictable, so taking a flyer on a couple of low cost guys is a worthwhile depth move. But we get it, you don't like Bloom.
HE DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO RUN A TEAM IN A BIG MARKET!
 

BringBackMo

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Can I ask those of you in the camp of "In Chaim we Trust", why you trust him? I'm not saying I don't trust him, but I just don't see what he's brought us yet.
He’s made a number of astute trades that have helped to rebuild the minor league system, and they brought one of the Sox’ best major leaguers to the club, as well as a significant contributor to the rotation.

He took a risky approach to a handicapped draft situation last year that shows early signs of paying off.

He’s made outstanding Rule 5 pickups, including a useful player last year in Arauz, and an absolute stud this year in Whitlock.

He’s made some good free agent signings, including Hernandez and Renfroe, who have contributed to the club’s success this year.

He has built a bridge-year team that has the second-best record in baseball, all while preserving financial flexibility for the better free agent class expected next year.

Not bad for his first season and a half on the job, I’d say.
 

snowmanny

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Everything is fine if Schwarber can play first.
Or Casas comes up and can be mediocre. Irregardless of their current record, having the worst first base production in baseball seems like a bad plan going forward, assuming their plan aligns with ours.