6/5 - Everything is Hall Right

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If they come back with the same 12 forwards they deserve whatever they get. No idea what value he has, likely none at this point, but I’m pretty much done with DeBrusk. It’s a shame given he was the only value they had extracted from those three picks but he has plateaued as hard as can be.
 

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Bruins didn't play very well tonight. Still could have won the game with a couple of breaks.

I want to score some fucking goals for a change.
 

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NBC praising the shitty arena is something. Sorry, 'legendary barn.'

3rd line needs to do something, anything. Seems like just dead minutes or really negative minutes
 

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I do not know what Jake DeBrusk (or most of the third line for that matter) does.
On the decisive goal he fell into the boards with the puck deep in the N.Y. zone then finished the sequence by listlessly drifting around the point with no apparent strategy to block a shit or use his stick
 

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It has to be Ritchie, doesn't it? Coyle and DeBrusk have never looked worse until he came around. He's slow, can't possess the puck for shit, and several times tonight his "forechecking" involved him flying by the Isles' defender while neither sealing off the wall, tying up a stick, or delivering a hit. Fucking empty ass sweater.
 

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NBC praising the shitty arena is something. Sorry, 'legendary barn.'

3rd line needs to do something, anything. Seems like just dead minutes or really negative minutes
who’s next man up if they bench Ritchie and his piano?
 

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Idk if this is me just tilting about them but it is a real problem that they have to shelter the 3rd line with so many offensive zone draws and get absolutely nothing out of it, meaning they have lost opportunities to have better players on the ice in better situations.
 

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It has to be Ritchie, doesn't it? Coyle and DeBrusk have never looked worse until he came around. He's slow, can't possess the puck for shit, and several times tonight his "forechecking" involved him flying by the Isles' defender while neither sealing off the wall, tying up a stick, or delivering a hit. Fucking empty ass sweater.
and a few times the puck was there for the taking and he ignored it to play the body.
 

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Islanders are taking a page out of the Lightning playbook and completely beating the piss out of the B's physically.
 

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Tuukka was terrific and gave us a chance, Pasta, not so much. The 3rd line is a black hole.
 

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I’d bet on Debrusk and Coyle finding some life if Ritchie was replaced. His lack of speed is an anchor for a couple guys who can move when they’re going good
 

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So Kuraly at center with Coyle on the wing?
Might be worth a shot.

The wingers that are sitting are sitting for a reason. They aren’t better than the players that are playing. Freddy/Kihlman maybe upgrade on Wagner but it’s not like we have a rookie Seguin on 9 like 2011.
 

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Might be worth a shot.

The wingers that are sitting are sitting for a reason. They aren’t better than the players that are playing. Freddy/Kihlman maybe upgrade on Wagner but it’s not like we have a rookie Seguin on 9 like 2011.
but we may not need the 3rd line to provide a bunch of offense. Need them not to suck
 

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Line-by-line 5v5:

Line Attempts Shots Chances High-Danger Chances Expected Goals
Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak 11-11 2-8 6-8 2-3 0.44 to 0.42 (51%)
Hall-Krejci-Smith 9-12 6-3 2-7 0-2 0.12 to 0.32 (27%)
DeBrusk-Coyle-Ritchie 12-9 5-3 4-8 1-2 0.27 to 0.47 (37%)
Kuraly-Lazar-Wagner 8-10 4-5 4-6 4-1 0.48 to 0.23 (67%)


Not going to win too many games when the 4th line is your best line. The 3rd line's been bad the whole series, the difference tonight is that the top 2 lines played well below their standards.
 

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It has to be Ritchie, doesn't it? Coyle and DeBrusk have never looked worse until he came around. He's slow, can't possess the puck for shit, and several times tonight his "forechecking" involved him flying by the Isles' defender while neither sealing off the wall, tying up a stick, or delivering a hit. Fucking empty ass sweater.
I’m biased but DeBrusk has looked like shit since last year. He has flashes but so do the rest of them. Ritchie isn’t helping either. Nor is Coyle doing nothing all year. I talked myself into a pretzel.

That said, Ritchie had nothing to do with Coyle getting caught watching on the first goal.
 

cshea

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but we may not need the 3rd line to provide a bunch of offense. Need them not to suck
We need goals. The players on the bench are unlikely to provide them.

I’m not as down on Ritchie or DeBrusk as everyone else. I think the root of the problem is Coyle. If anything I’d kick him to RW with Kuraly in the middle
 

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I think I'm settling on a conclusion that all three players on the Coyle line are just playing miserably. A lot of floating around, drive-bys, and other weak-on-the-puck play. They had one good shift when they finally cut that shit out.

But it does seem weird that Krejci was having an awful season until they dropped Ritchie down with Coyle.
 

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Sure but the Isles manufactured their puck luck. More opportunities, more chances to get lucky.
yup. And the barzal goal was a legit great play by him. Pucks bounce around the slot area for both teams - it’s not often a guy bats it out of the air for a goal like that
 

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I think I'm settling on a conclusion that all three players on the Coyle line are just playing miserably. A lot of floating around, drive-bys, and other weak-on-the-puck play. They had one good shift when they finally cut that shit out.

But it does seem weird that Krejci was having an awful season until they dropped Ritchie down with Coyle.
my anti-Ritchie stance is rooted in the fact that coyle and debrusk can play better but Ritchie can’t get faster. Big and slow just doesn’t play well anymore, especially in the playoffs

edit: typo
 

cshea

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I mean, sort of. Barzal GW was luck. Puck deflected, popped in the air right where he happened to be
How many times did Rask rob them? If everything stayed the same but a grade A chance went in for the 2nd goal but the puck bounced away from Barzal nobody would be talking about luck.