I would have been fine to replace Semi with a shiny new draft toy. Would also have been fine to cut Waters (I think he could be traded for a future 2nd) and replace him with Maledon or someone else.
I agree. I don't feel like any of them have any future with the club. Fine as cheap end of the bench filler - but they aren't prospects.This is why I never understand why people kept insisting that we can't draft 3 guys. Wouldn't a guy like Bane be preferable to one of Ojeleye, Waters or Green? Would have imo.
Pretty neat that 8 of your top 13 players would have been drafted by the Celtics. That has to be a higher percentage than most teams.Remember, the Celtics will almost certainly add a vet on the MLE and probably another vet or two on LLE and Min contracts.
I would expect the Celtics to have a top 13 of:
Walker
Brown
Smart
Tatum
Theis
Langford
G. Williams
R. Williams
Kanter
Nesmith
Pritchard
MLE
OTHER VET
So really we're looking at 2 spots for:
Hayward (or any player returned in a S&T, possibly 2 players)
Edwards
Semi
Green
Waters
Tacko
Wanamaker
Poirier
And Danny would probably like 15 to be someone who is easy to cut (ala Green last year) so he has trade flexibility.
And that is why we didn't draft anyone at 30. That locks in a 14th spot and really limits flexibility.
Those other guys named probably don't either and will be in the same position as Carsen and Tremont in a year or two.I agree. I don't feel like any of them have any future with the club. Fine as cheap end of the bench filler - but they aren't prospects.
Javonte Green was a Euro guy too.The last few years they've signed some overseas guy to fill the end of the bench. Wonder if they do it again this year.
(Theis, Larkin, Wanamaker, Vincent)
Still there. The MEM trade hasn't been completed so it's unclear who if anyone is outgoing in that deal (likely either Poirier or Kanter)Is Poirier still on the roster or did he get flipped last night?
The Payton Pritchard era begins!No QO for Wanamaker, he's unrestricted
In all seriousness, he is a NBA caliber player but not as the seventh guy off the bench for an aspiring contender, especially one that was playing in a conference finals that featured far more accomplished players coming off opponents and potential match-up benches.I think Wanamaker got a lot of heat, and think there were moments he helped the team. But that being said, we needed something different moving forward
agreed. He’d be a great deep option as he was a couple years ago. But was too big a drop off at the backupIn all seriousness, he is a NBA caliber player but not as the seventh guy off the bench for an aspiring contender, especially one that was playing in a conference finals that featured far more accomplished players coming off opponents and potential match-up benches.
What’s the practical implication of this? Can Danny trade him before Sat and then that team can cut him to save salary?View: https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1329555638909886465
Semi Option picked up, non-guaranteed until Saturday
View: https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/1329558906964758534What’s the practical implication of this? Can Danny trade him before Sat and then that team can cut him to save salary?
Ah, thanks. Seems like we may have a deal or two in the next couple of days then.View: https://twitter.com/AdamHimmelsbach/status/1329558906964758534
Yeah, he can be traded or cut, or if a bunch of guys move in trades they could keep him
Well, good. That solves that question.
That deal hasn’t been made official yet has it? May be another player going in that instead of Poirier?Makes that draft night deal look extra double meh now.
We still don't know what that deal was.Makes that draft night deal look extra double meh now.
Could be Kanter as he opted in.That deal hasn’t been made official yet has it? May be another player going in that instead of Poirier?
I'm not saying that it was a bad deal, and we don't know quite yet what it even is of course.We still don't know what that deal was.
Though I will say 30 for two future seconds would be a decent enough deal. 30 is arguably less valuable in some ways than 31-35, and this was not a particularly good draft. If one of the seconds comes in the 2022 draft (first HS eligibility year) and is in the top 40 it might well be a better pick than #30 this year.... also, 3 rookies this year is a poor use of roster space this year and going forward.
why would they give up kanter and a 1st for 2 2nds when he's a very useful bench piece?Could be Kanter as he opted in.
Maybe they don't think he's a very useful bench piece?why would they give up kanter and a 1st for 2 2nds when he's a very useful bench piece?
Waters and Tacko aren't on 2 way contracts btw, they have QOs, not sure what kind of contracts they'll sign, depending what interest there is Celtics might have to either put them on the main roster or lose them.Borrowing from above
11 Players locked in:
Walker
Brown
Smart
Tatum
Theis
Langford
G. Williams
R. Williams
Kanter
Nesmith
Pritchard
2 way contracts
Waters
Tacko
So, we still have 4 slots, right?
Hayward (or any player returned in a S&T, possibly 2 players)
Edwards
Semi (if not cut)
Wanamaker (if resigned, but likely gone)
Any vets
Don’t forget Ojeleye. That bench is fucking trash.Borrowing from above
11 Players locked in:
Walker
Brown
Smart
Tatum
Theis
Langford
G. Williams
R. Williams
Kanter
Nesmith
Pritchard
2 way contracts
Waters
Tacko
So, we still have 4 slots, right?
Hayward (or any player returned in a S&T, possibly 2 players)
Edwards
Semi (if not cut)
Wanamaker (if resigned, but likely gone)
Any vets
Ojeleye isn’t going to be here. I’d disagree on the bench, but it is super high variance. Assuming the rookies and Langford don’t contribute much, we have a major need for guard/wing depth, but there’s a ton of big depth between Timelord, Grant, and Kanter, all of whom I see as average of above players next year. If any of Nesmith, Pritchard or Langford can contribute, they are one smaller wing away from a solid rotation, and they have the full MLE available to bring in that player.Don’t forget Ojeleye. That bench is fucking trash.