Depends who they were going to pick in 2021 with the pick for which they were trading that pickThey're going to lose a pick. We can yell at the clouds all we want, but that won't change anything.
The matter is: How valuable of a pick will they lose?
yepDepends who they were going to pick in 2021 with the pick for which they were trading that pick
3rd or higher is my guess.They're going to lose a pick. We can yell at the clouds all we want, but that won't change anything.
The matter is: How valuable of a pick will they lose?
Bengals could do a documentary and call it something like “How to lose every year for decades and then be outraged at the team that wins every year for decades with a false accusation”I'm sorry, but the Patriots absolutely deserve this. I still haven't received a good answer on why this violation didn't happen to other teams this season if everybody does it. The Patriots are the only team that are doing a documentary?
The NFL was predictable in throwing this little nugget the day of the Patriots game and giving a timeframe of two weeks. Which means either the week of the AFCCG or the week they're eliminated. Everybody looks shitty in this situation.
Or maybe that isn’t catchy enoughBengals could do a documentary and call it something like “How to lose every year for decades and then be outraged at the team that wins every year for decades with a false accusation”
What false accusation? They said a Patriots film crew was filming their sideline during a game. They wereBengals could do a documentary and call it something like “How to lose every year for decades and then be outraged at the team that wins every year for decades with a false accusation”
Seems odd to say they deserve it when the punishment hasn't been announced.I'm sorry, but the Patriots absolutely deserve this.
It's been reported that they have not done so. That's a bit different than the NFL officially saying that there was no link.And I still think lots of folks haven't glommed onto the fact that the NFL did not/could not tie this to actual football operations.
I miss spoke. What I meant was a loser team complaining about a documentary crew filming some sideline stuff from their sideline.What false accusation? They said a Patriots film crew was filming their sideline during a game. They were
I imagine there is a call out to all 31 teams to interview anyone and everyone and scour the archives looking for anything remotely inflammatory.“Reports” and discipline are coming in during Superbowl week. What a shocker!
Waiting for reports from whom?
Who has used the excuse that everyone does it in this specific instance? Does what exactly? Films a documentary of an advanced scout from their box?I'm sorry, but the Patriots absolutely deserve this. I still haven't received a good answer on why this violation didn't happen to other teams this season if everybody does it. The Patriots are the only team that are doing a documentary?
The NFL was predictable in throwing this little nugget the day of the Patriots game and giving a timeframe of two weeks. Which means either the week of the AFCCG or the week they're eliminated. Everybody looks shitty in this situation.
Anything more than a fine would be absurd. We literally have examples of other teams taping in similar manners and nothing ever happens to them. Given the Pats' past, I'm perfectly good with a large fine, but anything more than that would be completely unfair.I imagine there is a call out to all 31 teams to interview anyone and everyone and scour the archives looking for anything remotely inflammatory.
Who has used the excuse that everyone does it in this specific instance? Does what? Films a documentary of an advanced scout from their box?
I’ve seen a pretty uniform response here at BBTL that the Patriots deserve some form of punishment. But considering they won’t be able to link this to football operations, suspending Belichick would be absird. Losing a relatively high draft pick would also be absurd, but it’s most likely going to happen.
Yes, that is the standard the NFL will use... anything more than that would be completely unfair.
I think we have to expect past behavior to factor into this decision tho. From that perspective, the Patriots have more than a fine coming to them.Anything more than a fine would be absurd. We literally have examples of other teams taping in similar manners and nothing ever happens to them. Given the Pats' past, I'm perfectly good with a large fine, but anything more than that would be completely unfair.
I still for the life of me can't believe that piping in crowd noise in order to gain a gameday advantage got off this lightly. Oh no, Rich McKay won't have any input on the latest round of convoluted rules for the next season! That'll show'em.ATL loses 5th-round pick, Falcons fined $350k, President Rich McKay suspended from competition committee for piping in crowd noise.
Honest question: What do you think the penalty would be for the Patriots if they got caught doing that tonight?I still for the life of me can't believe that piping in crowd noise in order to gain a gameday advantage got off this lightly. Oh no, Rich McKay won't have any input on the latest round of convoluted rules for the next season! That'll show'em.
Did Polian/Irsay ever get fined for the same thing?I still for the life of me can't believe that piping in crowd noise in order to gain a gameday advantage got off this lightly. Oh no, Rich McKay won't have any input on the latest round of convoluted rules for the next season! That'll show'em.
Nothing’s happened yet so we’re getting up in arms about hypothetical punishments on a rule they 100% violated.pretty hard to justify continuing to give this league money / attention.
Except we've seen it doesn't.I think we have to expect past behavior to factor into this decision tho. From that perspective, the Patriots have more than a fine coming to them.
Of course, DFG was BS, so it’s not exactly deserved, but that’s not what the official record says.
The last sentence speaks directly to Schefty's earlier tweet. This is what passes as journalism these days.
That actually makes me feel a little better. The multiple tweets today smelled like the league laying the groundwork via the media as they often do.
The investigation is being done by the "very important and busy" people of the NFL security staff. Finding time for each of them to watch 8 minutes of video and conduct a couple of interviews will be one of the most arduous undertakings in the history of mankind.That actually makes me feel a little better. The multiple tweets today smelled like the league laying the groundwork via the media as they often do.
The question of what the hell is taking so long remains.
I believe Brady and BB have to do season-ender press conferences tomorrow, so NFL HQ will get it out there before that.Goodell is a kick them when they're down kinda guy so I'd expect whatever trash decision he comes up with to happen on Monday.
Sure fine Kraft/the team for negligence in hiring an incompetent film crew. They've been trying for a month and a half to tie this to Belichick and have come up with nothing. That quote from Goodell is ridiculousI 100% understand the persecution complex from DFG, but much like Spygate they get what they have coming for this. IT was just fucking stupid.
"We're trying to be thorough" is ridiculous? MmmmkaySure fine Kraft/the team for negligence in hiring an incompetent film crew. They've been trying for a month and a half to tie this to Belichick and have come up with nothing. That quote from Goodell is ridiculous
no, "make sure that something that we don't know happened didn't happen" is ridiculous"We're trying to be thorough" is ridiculous? Mmmmkay
Or Peyton Manning's HGH?How thorough was the league with regards to Tyreke Hill?
Or any of the domestic violence situations.Or Peyton Manning's HGH?
I believe they call that "due diligence"no, "make sure that something that we don't know happened didn't happen" is ridiculous
Hey, they made those commercials for a couple years.Or any of the domestic violence situations.
in my world they call it confirmation biasI believe they call that "due diligence"