They play again in two weeks. Not a ton of time for the dust to settle.
Tomlin with a fat No comment.
Tomlin with a fat No comment.
2019 NFL Week 11 Game Thread
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They sure do and it's a ridiculous and insane rule that needs to be changed. If not in a 5yd v 10yd penalty, then in this case.
The most ridiculous thing is Garrett feels the need to take down the QB that already released the ball with seconds left in the game. I don't blame Rudolph for reacting the way he did, because the entire play was bullshit. Fuck Myles Garrett. If he shows less than total contrition, the guy can go fuck himself forever.
Even Vontaze Burfict has to be saying WTF???
Even Vontaze Burfict has to be saying WTF???
What does that have to do with Sims and Emtman?
Even if he does 3-5 for felony assault he wouldn’t be considered a draft bust.
I mean, Rudolf’s skull must be adamantium. Garrett is strong as fuck and he hit him straight in the head with a full windup with a football helmet.
Pouncey was kicking the guy on the ground. He earned his penalty and objection. Everyone understands why he did it, but you can’t do that. Making refs figure out which unsportsmanlike is worse is not feasible. It’s for the league.
1. Just being thorough.
2. It's the AFC. Other than the Pats and Ravens, it's a mess and anything can happen.
Looked like Decastro got his arm in there to deflect it a little. Might have saved some serious injury.
Only the NFL and the AFC North make Maurkice Pouncey somewhat of a hero.
Also, does Garrett get credit for QBKD there?
Also, does Garrett get credit for QBKD there?
Yeah it wasn’t a perfect strike, but it was the crown of his head. Garrett is a giant, strong dude and it was a full windup.
Mayfield's quote
"It's inexcusable. I don't care - rivalry or not - we can't do that," Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield told sideline reporter Erin Andrews after the game. "That's kind of the history of what's been going on here lately - hurting yourself - and that's just endangering the other team. That's inexcusable. And (Myles Garrett) knows that - I hope he does now. It's tough. We'll see. ... The reality is he's gonna get suspended. We don't know how long, and that hurts our team. And we can't do that. We can't continue to hurt this team. That's inexcusable."
"It's inexcusable. I don't care - rivalry or not - we can't do that," Browns quarterback Baker Mayfield told sideline reporter Erin Andrews after the game. "That's kind of the history of what's been going on here lately - hurting yourself - and that's just endangering the other team. That's inexcusable. And (Myles Garrett) knows that - I hope he does now. It's tough. We'll see. ... The reality is he's gonna get suspended. We don't know how long, and that hurts our team. And we can't do that. We can't continue to hurt this team. That's inexcusable."
Just watching another replay and Ogujobi's cheap shot on Rudolph after Rudolph got hit with the helmet. He can have the rest of the season off too. He's almost as bad. Fuck that guy too.
Imagine if that game was in Pittsburgh tonight. Police would have taken Garrett in in uniform
From what I saw, he got hit with the opening side of the helmet, and the initial impact was his head to the padding around the neck inside the helmet.
Danoo is correct that Garrett instigated it by fully sacking the QB in 100% garbage time
it's unfortunate Rudolph retaliated but then it was just out of control
it's unfortunate Rudolph retaliated but then it was just out of control
Garrett also seems to be owning the recklessness and stupidity of his actions when talking to reporters just now.
The NFL needs to start making helmets out of Rudolph's skull. They can both improve player safety and give him a chance to earn some compensation from getting 15 years worth of CTE in one play.
Interesting what a potential suspension could be like:
Albert Haynesworth got 5 games for stomping on a player in 2006, but he already had a sordid history even at that point.
Ndamukong Suh got 2 games for the same thing in 2011, and his sordid history wasn't much better.
Antonio Smith got only 1 game for ripping off Richie Incognito's helmet and swinging it at him in 2013. I'm sure there were extenuating circumstances given Incognito's own dirty history and racism, but still.
Dominic Raiola got 1 game for a stomp in 2014.
Suh ended up only getting a fine for another stomp on Rodgers in 2014.
IK Enemkapali got 4 games for punching teammate Geno Smith in 2015.
Gronk got 1 game for "intentionally falling on a player's neck" in 2017
So it looks like they'll spin the wheel of justice and see where it lands. It'll probably be some bullshit small amount. And if Ogujobi doesn't get a significant suspension too, that will be bullshit as well.
Albert Haynesworth got 5 games for stomping on a player in 2006, but he already had a sordid history even at that point.
Ndamukong Suh got 2 games for the same thing in 2011, and his sordid history wasn't much better.
Antonio Smith got only 1 game for ripping off Richie Incognito's helmet and swinging it at him in 2013. I'm sure there were extenuating circumstances given Incognito's own dirty history and racism, but still.
Dominic Raiola got 1 game for a stomp in 2014.
Suh ended up only getting a fine for another stomp on Rodgers in 2014.
IK Enemkapali got 4 games for punching teammate Geno Smith in 2015.
Gronk got 1 game for "intentionally falling on a player's neck" in 2017
So it looks like they'll spin the wheel of justice and see where it lands. It'll probably be some bullshit small amount. And if Ogujobi doesn't get a significant suspension too, that will be bullshit as well.
It should be. But it's fucking asshole Roger Goodell we're dealing with here.
Scumbag move by a team owned by a scumbag.
In summary, what should happen (but won't):
Garrett suspended indefinitely, minimum of the rest of this season, including any playoffs.
Ogunjobi suspended 4 games for the cheap shot after Rudolph was hit in the head.
Pouncey suspended 2 games for punching and kicking Garrett, even if he deserved it.
Kitchens fired tomorrow
In summary, what should happen (but won't):
Garrett suspended indefinitely, minimum of the rest of this season, including any playoffs.
Ogunjobi suspended 4 games for the cheap shot after Rudolph was hit in the head.
Pouncey suspended 2 games for punching and kicking Garrett, even if he deserved it.
Kitchens fired tomorrow
I'd go stronger:
Garrett banned for life and loses NFL retirement benefits (other than mental care, if NFL has any)
Ogunjobi suspended for rest of season and playoffs
Pouncey, 2 games
Kitchens fired now
all the media is calling for at least the rest of the year. 6 games would do it plus a playoff stipulation if needed.
Because his team is completely undisciplined. Did you see some of the illegal hits his players gave out tonight and justifiably got flags for? Absolute fucking bullshit. This isn't an isolated incident.
These assholes on NFLN trying to justify Garrett's actions by saying Rudolph caused the whole situation? Fuck those guys too.
Edit: Mostly James Jones. Fuck that guy with a rusty sword.
Edit: Mostly James Jones. Fuck that guy with a rusty sword.
You aren't familiar with his work I take it. Bad spelling, grammar and hair choices are part of his shtick. And he is right - sports Twitter is essentially eating its own right now with fans turning on fans, some pro players defending Garrett etc.
By sacking the QB after the ball was already out of his hand on a meaningless play in garbage time. He instigated the whole thing and I don't blame Rudolph one bit for reacting the way he did.
For example, there are lots of people, including some blue checkmarks, who are calling Mayfield out for not having Garrett's back, whatever that means.