That was then: Celebrating what was

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Tom Brady has been an NFL starter for 17 season (bench in 2000, injured in 2008). In those 17 seasons...

- He's won the AFC East 16 times (94.1%)
- He's been to the Pro Bowl 14 times (82.4%).
- He's been to the AFCCG 13 times (76.5%)
- He's been to 9 Super Bowls (52.9%).
- He's won 6 Super Bowls (35.3%).
- He's won SB MVP 4 times (23.5%).
- He's won regular season MVP 3 times (17.6%).

Nobody in the history of the NFL has ever had anything remotely matching this kind of success.
 

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Tom Brady has been an NFL starter for 17 season (bench in 2000, injured in 2008). In those 17 seasons...

- He's won the AFC East 16 times (94.1%)
- He's been to the Pro Bowl 14 times (82.4%).
- He's been to the AFCCG 13 times (76.5%)
- He's been to 9 Super Bowls (52.9%).
- He's won 6 Super Bowls (35.3%).
- He's won SB MVP 4 times (23.5%).
- He's won regular season MVP 3 times (17.6%).

Nobody in the history of the NFL has ever had anything remotely matching this kind of success.
Slight nickpit...he’s been voted to the Pro Bowl 14 times. I don’t know how many he’s actually been to, but it’s not very many. That alone is a true “what is”
 

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By comparison, because Bill Russell is alone atop "Winning Mountain" and MJ is the only guy Brady is competing with....

15 seasons for Michael Jordan (counting 1986 as he was back for playoffs and clearly healthy, though one could argue to drop that). Counted the Wizards seasons, and again one can argue but he was younger then than Brady was last year.

- Won division 6 times (40%)
- Went to Eastern Conference Finals 8 times (53%)
- Went to NBA finals 6 times (40%)
- Won NBA championship 6 times (40%)
- Won Finals MVP 6 times (40%)
- Won regular season MVP 5 times (33%)
 

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Slight nickpit...he’s been voted to the Pro Bowl 14 times. I don’t know how many he’s actually been to, but it’s not very many. That alone is a true “what is”
That’s the nitpickiest of nitpicks I’ve ever seen in my life.
 

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Of course he may have "been to" more than 9 Super Bowls then. (I don't know if he has, but it's possible)
I’m sure there are things that Tom Brady would enjoy less than attending a Super Bowl he’s not playing in. But most of them involve disease and/or violence.
 

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I’m sure there are things that Tom Brady would enjoy less than attending a Super Bowl he’s not playing in. But most of them involve disease and/or violence.
Haha maybe. I was thinking maybe early in his career, or as a fan before he got to the NFL.
 

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Rewatching SB53 on DVR from NFL Network now. Absolutely brilliant defensive gameplan from both Belichick and Phillips.

But I could not be more pumped for this year after seeing what this run game can do, and imagining amy improvement over the missed Hogan/Brady connection from last year.
 

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I know this has been shared before, but ESPN reminded us of this fact in a tweet:

There are only three teams in the NFL that haven't played a game on Wild Card weekend since 2010: The Browns, the Bucs, and the Patriots.

LOL
 

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Belichick is in legacy mode and he is not going to let his be shaped by sports columnists.
I was thinking the other day that "Bill Belichick: A Football Life" is now a decade old. It chronicled the 2009 season and was filmed starting around July 2009 when BB was on vacation in his "V Rings" boat. Amazing to think how much he and the Pats have accomplished since then. Still will never be a more awkward video than that of Randy Moss inviting him to the Halloween party.
 

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There are only three teams in the NFL that haven't played a game on Wild Card weekend since 2010: The Browns, the Bucs, and the Patriots.
Not that we can't still celebrate, but we got pretty fortunate to get a bye last year. In the 17 seasons since the 2002 realignment for 32 teams, here is the odds of playoffs and of getting a bye, by record:

14-2+: 11/11 (100%) making playoffs, 11/11 (100%) getting a bye*.
13-3: 28/28 (100%) making playoffs, 27/28 (96%) getting a bye**.
12-4: 39/39 (100%) making playoffs, 21/39 (54%) getting a bye; 8/39 (21%) were merely a wild card.
11-5: 42/43 (98%) making playoffs, 7/43 (16%) getting a bye; 18/43 (42%) were merely a wild card.
10-6: 51/59 (86%) making playoffs, 1/59 (2%) getting a bye, 24/59 (41%) as a wild card.
9-7: 21/57 (37%) making playoffs, 0 byes; of those 21, 9 were 4-seeds and 12 were wildcards.

So we were among only a handful of 11-win teams to get a bye (and the 2002 Raiders even got the 1-seed with it). Even so, we were 8 times likelier to get a bye with 11 wins than the 2008 Pats were to miss the playoffs entirely.

Notes:
* Among those 11 teams, only the 2004 Patriots failed to also secure the #1 seed.
** 2011 Saints were #3 behind the 13-3 49ers, on Conf Win%.
- The 2012 Kaepernick 49ers got the 2-seed and the bye due to getting 1 tie (11-4-1), putting them ahead of the 11-5 Seahawks
- The 2014 AFC somehow kept FOUR 9-win teams out of the playoffs; it was a very flat year in terms of distribution of records.
- There have been 3 teams with 9-6-1 records; of those, the 2008 Eagles and 2002 Falcons made the playoffs as 6-seeds, while the 2018 Steelers juuuuust missed out.
- There have been six 8-8 teams, one 7-8-1 team and one 7-9 team to make the playoffs in this span too, but so many more with 7 or 8 wins to miss it that it's not even worth calculating the numbers.
 

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Not that we can't still celebrate, but we got pretty fortunate to get a bye last year. In the 17 seasons since the 2002 realignment for 32 teams, here is the odds of playoffs and of getting a bye, by record:

14-2+: 11/11 (100%) making playoffs, 11/11 (100%) getting a bye*.
13-3: 28/28 (100%) making playoffs, 27/28 (96%) getting a bye**.
12-4: 39/39 (100%) making playoffs, 21/39 (54%) getting a bye; 8/39 (21%) were merely a wild card.
11-5: 42/43 (98%) making playoffs, 7/43 (16%) getting a bye; 18/43 (42%) were merely a wild card.
10-6: 51/59 (86%) making playoffs, 1/59 (2%) getting a bye, 24/59 (41%) as a wild card.
9-7: 21/57 (37%) making playoffs, 0 byes; of those 21, 9 were 4-seeds and 12 were wildcards.

So we were among only a handful of 11-win teams to get a bye (and the 2002 Raiders even got the 1-seed with it). Even so, we were 8 times likelier to get a bye with 11 wins than the 2008 Pats were to miss the playoffs entirely.

Notes:
* Among those 11 teams, only the 2004 Patriots failed to also secure the #1 seed.
** 2011 Saints were #3 behind the 13-3 49ers, on Conf Win%.
- The 2012 Kaepernick 49ers got the 2-seed and the bye due to getting 1 tie (11-4-1), putting them ahead of the 11-5 Seahawks
- The 2014 AFC somehow kept FOUR 9-win teams out of the playoffs; it was a very flat year in terms of distribution of records.
- There have been 3 teams with 9-6-1 records; of those, the 2008 Eagles and 2002 Falcons made the playoffs as 6-seeds, while the 2018 Steelers juuuuust missed out.
- There have been six 8-8 teams, one 7-8-1 team and one 7-9 team to make the playoffs in this span too, but so many more with 7 or 8 wins to miss it that it's not even worth calculating the numbers.
Their luck last year getting a bye doesn't come close to offsetting the fact that they're the 1 team out of those 43 that missed the playoffs with an 11-5 record.
 

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Leaving in a bit to the studio :)
Not that we can't still celebrate, but we got pretty fortunate to get a bye last year. In the 17 seasons since the 2002 realignment for 32 teams, here is the odds of playoffs and of getting a bye, by record:
Isn't it generally accepted that league wide odds and probability don't (shouldn't?) apply to this team?

IOW, what "happens" to every other team isn't really germane here?
 

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Man... I’ll be on a plane. If anyone finds any links to stream it after they air pleasssse post, there’s nothing I’d rather do when I get home
 

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I suppose there was “luck” involved in the two teams with the best record in the AFC playing in the same division. The rest of getting the bye came down to the Patriots beating the Texans (per usual) to win the tiebreaker with them, and beating the Colts (per usual) or they would have lost that tiebreaker. And the AFC North being sort of crappy. 4-0 against playoff teams.
 

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Yeah, Pats did it for 2003. So, to answer Lose's question (which I should have quoted instead of E5), yeah, they had unveilings then.
 

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So, the "since 1980" part of the tweet is sort of disingenuous