2019 Trade Deadline
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True, and it's a credit to this lineup (in spite of the squanders) to make it possible for bad starts to turn into possible bullpen losses. In a WC/post season game, Price is pulled earlier and the BP usage is totally different thanks to a new face or two (with arms) being added in the next 1:48.
So, after seeing what the Brewers gave up for 2 middling arms, maybe there's a reason the Sox are balking.
My thought is that this team is way too inconsistent. Even in a 1 and done, if the starter goes six, we’re still sweating out the final nine outs. That inconsistency is rough.
I said in the MLB deadline thread that I think Dubon should be seen as roughly comparable in value to Michael Chavis. More glove, less pop.
In light of some of the subsequent trades, it really seems like the Stroman deal was a steal for the Mets.
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Things change once the playoffs start...Cora showed last season that he is not opposed to having starters come out of the bullpen. In fact, some of last season's best postseason bullpen appearances came from guys who were in the starting rotation all season long. I have great faith this team can survive a one-and-done WC game.
I realize that data is not the plural of anecdote, but may I give a subjective opinion of Diaz’s last year in Seattle, as seen from the seats of the ballpark formerly known as Safeco Field?
Diaz was not close to as good as the absolute Saves number would lead you to believe. He’d come in with a 2-run lead in the top of the 9th to flashing LED lights and scary music, then he’d walk the first two guys on 9 pitches, get a loud out, give up a single to plate a run, then strike out a guy on a 3-2 pitch after 5 foul balls, and then get an out on a ball in play to notch the save.
But no one can dance through the raindrops forever, and the Mets are discovering this now.
No way do I want to see this guy in a Red Sox uniform.
Maybe if it had any connection with reality, but back in this time-space continuum, Diaz gave up runs in only 12 games all season and only 3 of those did he get saves in. The other 54 saves were scoreless.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/gl.fcgi?id=diazed04&t=p&year=2018
I know you are just giving an impression, but his WHIP last year was 0.79, his pitches-per-inning was almost exactly 16, and he only gave up an earned run or more in 11 games, so the scenario you describe couldn't have happened in more than a very small percentage of his appearances.
In any event it's a moot point as it doesn't seem like Diaz is on the table for the Sox or anyone else at this point.
Edit: or what jon abbey said.
We'll know DD has done nothing when NESN starts showing old video of the Manny Ramirez last second deadline trade from years ago. They always do that when they have nothing to talk about.
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There are SO many buyers right now that I think the sellers are overplaying their hands. Either that, or a LOT of deals are going to be announced at 4pm
If he had waited until today, would that really make a difference? Because I guess at least then we could say he made a deadline move.
Look at what Milwaukee gave up--the market seems a bit off. Had he waited on Cashner he may have cost more.
EXACTLY. How many trades has DD made in his time here right at the deadline? He makes his moves early. I don't think he's going to scramble and make a last minute over-pay just to say he did something. If the right deal isn't there, it isn't there.
2018: Pearce June 28, Eovaldi July 25, Kinsler July 30
2017: Fister June 23, Nunez July 26, Reed July 31, Rajai Davis August 23
2016: Ziegler July 9, Pomeranz July 14, Abad August 1
Then again, those first 2 starts by Cashner sucked--I wish he had waited til today to get him.
Was coming to post the same thing. (nvalvo beat me to it, handily). I know it's an almost impossible concept to get your arms around, but maybe the Mets aren't so dumb after all?
Sean McAdam
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With 13 minutes to go before the deadline, exec with another team describes Red Sox as "all quiet'' on trade front.
https://twitter.com/Sean_McAdam/status/1156652600768499712
Ridiculous.
@Sean_McAdam
With 13 minutes to go before the deadline, exec with another team describes Red Sox as "all quiet'' on trade front.
https://twitter.com/Sean_McAdam/status/1156652600768499712
Ridiculous.
Okay, it's go time for Wheeler or Bumgarner. Now or never...
Edit: not referring to the Sox for those two. As noted earlier, I'm okay with standing pat. If Sale doesn't get his head out of his ass, I don't see the team going far. If he does, watch out.
Edit: not referring to the Sox for those two. As noted earlier, I'm okay with standing pat. If Sale doesn't get his head out of his ass, I don't see the team going far. If he does, watch out.
Amazing...all that smoke. Literally anyone they can trade for will be an upgrade over the majority of this pen. How can DD feel comfortable putting half these guys in any situation let alone a playoff game? Or you could go the other way and sell but that was never going to happen. Even if they got swept by NY and Tampa.
You do add Cashner and perhaps Porcello to the playoff bullpen.
Oh, that doesn't inspire confidence?
For almost every "top" team. Dodgers, Yankees, Astros, Red Sox all taking their ball and going home. 9 minutes to go
Still 10 minutes for my Price for Buehler dream to come through.
$210 to Jimmy Fund if this happens.
$210 to Jimmy Fund if this happens.
It's probably not DDski failing to pull the trigger, but rather John Henry not letting him.
I have it on very good authority this was definitely happening until Price spit the bit last night.
Sure, but that's only half the equation - a reliever has to be available at a reasonable price. A mindset of "we have to get at least one reliever, no matter the cost" is precisely how bad trades that look terrible a year down the road happen.
there's plenty of sense to standing pat. it's likely this year has already been shot, but they could still win out a WC spot and then anything can happen.
there's not that much pressure to win it all this year. people will get over going from champs to out of playoffs if that's what happens.
there's not that much pressure to win it all this year. people will get over going from champs to out of playoffs if that's what happens.
Mark Feinsand
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With 10 minutes to go until the Trade Deadline, it appears that, barring any last-minute prices coming down, the Red Sox will not make any bullpen moves. Didn't see that one coming.
https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1156653692747231232
@Feinsand
With 10 minutes to go until the Trade Deadline, it appears that, barring any last-minute prices coming down, the Red Sox will not make any bullpen moves. Didn't see that one coming.
https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1156653692747231232
If there is any sense that this year is shot, then the team should be looking to sell. If they feel they can contend, then buy. Middle ground is a total waste of assets.
This team, as currently constructed, is capable of winning it all.
Since their incomprehensible start they have been really good.
Since their incomprehensible start they have been really good.
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