Kraft One-Ups Brady’s Departure
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The DA can hardly keep from laugh and grinning in the video with this story ... Dolphins fan
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26078163/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-officially-charged-first-degree-solicitation-prostitute
Good thing it wasn't Indy ... they'd hang a banner six inches off the ground
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/26078163/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-officially-charged-first-degree-solicitation-prostitute
Good thing it wasn't Indy ... they'd hang a banner six inches off the ground
I don’t get why folks are so hung up on his spokesman’s Friday denial.
He hadn’t been formally charged at the time so why not blatantly deny it? What if he copped to it on Friday and somehow the states case blew up over the weekend?
He hadn’t been formally charged at the time so why not blatantly deny it? What if he copped to it on Friday and somehow the states case blew up over the weekend?
Actually, I have gotten a variant to work. I was going to say no, but remembered a case from way back. It was a "confused young man" case though. I had a juvie client who was arrested for solicitation. The argument was that the kid really didn't intend to solicit the undercover officer and was just repeating stuff he didn't really understand. (And to be honest the kid was kind of slow.)
Thing is, a defense should never be evaluated outside of the facts of the case, the people involved, and the fact-finder(s). So did the above argument win because it was independently brilliant? Obviously not. It just happened to be a winning argument for that particular case with that particular defendant in front of that particular judge.
So, would the confused old man work for Kraft? With two videos? With the testimony of two witnesses? I'd have to see the vids and weigh the evidence entire, and know something about the prosecution team, but at this early stage, I'd certainly lean "no."
Kornheiser on PTI predicted that Kraft will hand over the team to Jonathan and that he's seen his last Pats game from the owner's suite.
Of course his lawyer’s name is Jack.
Going with one of Epstein’s lawyers is probably smart but definitely gross.
And it read to me like he got a bj not an hj.
Going with one of Epstein’s lawyers is probably smart but definitely gross.
And it read to me like he got a bj not an hj.
My brother's practice is around the corner, and they're in the PBC courthouse all the time. He texted me over the weekend that the SA is a HUGE Dolphins fan.
It's by far the nicest of Miami/Broward/PBC trio and sports an excellent law library. Although it's easier to get decent food and coffee close to the Miami courthouse.
FWIW, the SA also brought up diversion programs, etc. So I sort of doubt there's going to be a tough plea offer for Kraft. (I probably should have mentioned diversion programs as an option to resolve this as well.)
But who knows, maybe Kraft will test the motion waters first.
Maybe my calibration is off on this but I don’t see how this is remotely as bad as what Jerry Richardson was accused of. He was serially harassing team employees. The league has a much more vested interest in workplace behavior than what someone does outside of the team.
Kraft probably should have known better (on the trafficking angle, I have no issue with him paying for sex generally, it should be legal), and maybe it should be a bigger deal but then why is he only charged with a misdemeanor?
I don’t see Bob stepping aside and I can’t imagine the rest of the owners or the league stepping in and forcing him out over this. I think it is in the same neighborhood as Irsay and think the penalty will be similar.
Kraft probably should have known better (on the trafficking angle, I have no issue with him paying for sex generally, it should be legal), and maybe it should be a bigger deal but then why is he only charged with a misdemeanor?
I don’t see Bob stepping aside and I can’t imagine the rest of the owners or the league stepping in and forcing him out over this. I think it is in the same neighborhood as Irsay and think the penalty will be similar.
What’s a diversion program look like for an old billionaire who likes mall hand jobs?
I would guess that this wasn't the first time Bobby Kraft made a couple weekend visits to the Orchids of Asia.
Is this like a pretty woman thing? Having your mouth on someone's genitals is de rigeur, but a hug is too intimate?
Getting a handy (or more) during a massage isn't a crime. It's only a crime if it was negotiated for with something of value.
Even asking for one during a massage(without a bargained-for exchange) isn't a crime
Actually, to me it sounds like something they included in there because it makes the story sound worse. But while they were very explicit with the hand action, for some reason they decided to be vague about her head going “near”? There are several possible reasons for why that might have happened besides him receiving a BJ.
This is usually the celebrity/billionaire path to winning the PR battle. Admit to being a sex addict/alcoholic, go to Europe for a few weeks for “treatment”, do a teary eyed interview with Jim Gray, donate money to charity. Throw in a couple “God has saved me” stuff and your back at the Grammy parties with Meek Mill.
No one is "hung up" on it, we're just asking. We knew at that time there was video, so it seemed a hard denial was....interesting.
Oh great. Another thing for folks to yap about when we get the 2 seed again next year.
Sorry, shoulda been more clear. Didn’t mean to imply folks here, in this thread. I heard hosts and callers on the radio today talking about the denial, as if it’s some key piece and makes any material difference at all
Kind of? I mean, all of those hugs seem kinda weird unless he's asking for them as part of the package. Which would also be.... kind of weird.
There's also the fact that he just completely forgoes the perfunctory "massage" part of the rub n' tug and just lies face up on the massage table right off the bat. Pretty much every other client in the affidavit starts with a back massage and then flips over, right?
Then Kraft gives her a $100+ tip. Maybe meaningless considering Kraft is a billionaire. But fits the profile of a known, regular, and valued customer.
I'm making an inference and who really knows, but that's how it reads to me. Wouldn't be surprised if celebrity clients were what piqued the cops' attention in the first place. Which might also explain Schefter's tweet about a bigger name being on the list, then the cops shooting that rumor down. Could be plenty of bigger names that the cops know about but don't have concrete evidence on.
Well, yeah, but it’s a family website so I didn’t want to speculate on all the alternatives.
I am slightly disappointed Kraft wasn’t one of the dudes getting a finger in his butt.
I assume you’ve seen the South Park episode on this?
If anyone is in the area, I can recommend a very nice craft brewery/wine bar within walking distance that shows all the big Boston games on all the screens.
“There’s no point in denying this, Mr. Kraft, the victim’s fingerprints are all over your weapon!”
Next season when Brady audibles out of a spread formation, if he yells ‘KRAFT!’ it will mean one in the backfield.
On a good night, they could use my name as a stand in for a nickel package, if you get what I mean.
Can we find another word other than seed for this thread?
I thought you were all about the fullback position, and trying to bust one into the backfield.
And not so much to, you know, go long.
These guys didn’t amass the fortunes they did by overpaying for high end handjobs.
Oh man, if you’re gonna steal memes at least correct it to acknowledge the Putin theft.
