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He (or Fiers) should have started. Dumbest move of the postseason.

Edwin's only 35
Yeah the age is kinda what shocked me, I figured he’d be expired by now and I didn’t pay much attention to the league outside Sox this year so I had no idea. Feels like he should be like Bartolo’s age. 35 and headed to 14th team, that’s kinda crazy.
 

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I don't know if it'll work, but I admire the Twins for actually trying instead of conceding the division to a team that's actively trying to make itself worse.
 

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Too bad for Lucroy his ridiculous bargaining demand in July 2016 didn't work out for him. If he had successfully gotten the Indians to decline his 2017 team option in exchange for him waiving his no-trade clause to Cleveland, he'd be entering his 3rd season of a very overpaid contract. Instead, he was shipped to Texas, where his no-trade clause didn't cover any bargaining power, and his career started to tank a year before he could hit free agency. Now he'll make just over $15M from 2017-2019.

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Per heymans Twitter:
Kikuchi has an unusual deal. Has initial 4 year guarantee (3 years plus 2022 player option) but 4th year player option can be replaced by an additional 4 year guarantee for a total of 7 years by the #Mariners
 

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The numbers are 3/43 definite, 4th year player option at 13, additional potential guarantee at 4/66, so it will be 3/43 (if they decline the team one and he declines the player one), 4/56 (if they decline the team option and he takes the player one) or 7/109 (if they take the team extension option).
 

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The numbers are 3/43 definite, 4th year player option at 13, additional potential guarantee at 4/66, so it will be 3/43 (if they decline the team one and he declines the player one), 4/56 (if they decline the team option and he takes the player one) or 7/109 (if they take the team extension option).
This seems structured to game the posting fee system.
 

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This seems structured to game the posting fee system.
http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/japanese-posting-system

Options, bonuses, etc. are covered under the agreement.
So the posting fee is guaranteed $9.4M plus 15% of whatever else he gets paid under the options. If the optioned amounts had been guaranteed, the posting fee would have been $175K higher, as the first $7M would have been "taxed" at 17.5% instead of the option rate of 15%.
 

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Less than an hour ago Bradford wrote that the Kimbrel market was down to Philly, Boston, and maybe Atlanta. Does this take Philly out of it?
I'd say so. Their pen isn't great, but has enough decent bodies that I don't think they invest any more money in it with Robertson, Dominguez, Neshek, Neris, Hunter, Nicasio from the right side. They might upgrade the lefty options (Alvarez, Morgan) but that's about it.
 

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Robertson to the Phillies on a two-year deal.

This is where all the MFY fans say "Robertson was on the back nine, he was not very good for us last year, it's best to move on", yet if they had resigned him, it would be "Outstanding news, another piece of the puzzle is in place, GREAT move, now go get Harper, Machado, Britton, Koufax, Gibson and Palmer and call it a day".
 

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This is where all the MFY fans say "Robertson was on the back nine, he was not very good for us last year, it's best to move on", yet if they had resigned him, it would be "Outstanding news, another piece of the puzzle is in place, GREAT move, now go get Harper, Machado, Britton, Koufax, Gibson and Palmer and call it a day".
Big fan of Robertson but if I have to pick two of three of him and Britton and Ottavino, I think I am taking the latter two. Good luck to the Houdini of the bullpen, glad he is in the other league, and he probably cost himself some money by acting as his own agent.
 

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This is where all the MFY fans say "Robertson was on the back nine, he was not very good for us last year, it's best to move on", yet if they had resigned him, it would be "Outstanding news, another piece of the puzzle is in place, GREAT move, now go get Harper, Machado, Britton, Koufax, Gibson and Palmer and call it a day".
Or you could just go read commentary before anyone signed basically saying that Robertson was interchangeable with the other available options. Happy for Robertson and grateful for his contributions but he's not likely to be much, if at all, better than Ottavino or Britton.

Steamer projections
Name ERA WHIP K/9 BB/9 FIP WAR
Adam Ottavino 3.63 1.27 11.36 4.24 3.58 0.5
Andrew Miller 2.95 1.13 11.44 3.09 2.94 0.9
Craig Kimbrel 2.8 1.07 13.59 3.61 2.72 1.4
David Robertson 3.32 1.19 11.19 3.42 3.27 0.8
Zach Britton 3.01 1.32 8.74 3.65 3.24 0.5
 

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This is where all the MFY fans say "Robertson was on the back nine, he was not very good for us last year, it's best to move on", yet if they had resigned him, it would be "Outstanding news, another piece of the puzzle is in place, GREAT move, now go get Harper, Machado, Britton, Koufax, Gibson and Palmer and call it a day".
Great post, big reality.
Juan Vene, a Venezuelan baseball journalist who used to own the rights for MLB radio broadcasts for Latinamerica and transmitted the game of the day in the 80’s, said today Machado is considering the White Sox 300 million 10 year offer and that Marwin Gonzalez is going to the Nationals. http://www.milenio.com/opinion/juan-vene/en-la-pelota/marwin-esta-cerca-de-ser-un-national
 

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Mariners officially announce the signing of Japanese left-handed pitcher Yusei Kikuchi

The team doesn’t disclose financial terms of the deal. But sources indicated that Kikuchi will make a guaranteed $56 million on the deal. It’s technically a three-year deal for $43 million with four simultaneous club options. Even if the Mariners chose not to exercise their club option for the 2022 season, Kikuchi can exercise a player option of $13 million for that season, which would push the total to $56 million. If the Mariners exercised all four club options, the contract’s total value would push to $107 million.
Meet the newest Mariners pitcher: ‘Hi everyone, my name is Yusei Kikuchi’ (in English!)

When asked by Japanese media about speaking English, he elaborated on the decision:

“I want to apologize to the English-speaking media for my bad English and the short answers,” he said through Novak. “Thank you for bearing with me. Being here on the biggest stage of baseball in the world, it’s a global stage, and I wanted to ingrain myself with that and be available to everyone and be able to speak to everyone directly. So I worked hard, and that was an important thing for me to do going forward. From high school, when I first had the dream of playing in the big leagues, I wanted to be able to communicate directly and from the heart to the fans over here in English by myself. I made it a goal to speak English by the time I got here. And here I am today.”
Mr. Ichiro
Kikuchi, who looks much younger than 27, became sheepish when asked about having Ichiro as his teammate. At about the age of nine, his first professional baseball game featured Ichiro playing for the Orix Blue Wave in 2000.

“Since then I’ve read any book that there is about Mr. Ichiro, read any article about Mr. Ichiro, about his playing style, his work ethic,” Kikuchi said.

A year later, Ichiro left for the U.S. and the Mariners. Now, they will share a clubhouse and a field together. Of course, Kikuchi must still meet his childhood idol.

“It’s starting to hit me that I get to meet him,” he said. “I have a lot of questions that I want to ask him.”

And yet …

“Mr. Ichiro is kind of a person in the sky, a legend. I don’t know if he really exists,” he said. “So the first step is to be able to meet and talk to him. When I do have the opportunity to step on the field with him, it will be a great memory for me that I’ll cherish forever.”
Adapting to the MLB rotation (NBP pitchers typically throw once / week)
It was something that Boras had asked of teams. He’s cognizant of the track record of Japanese pitchers coming to the U.S.

“It was very helpful to sit down and talk about what YK’s needs were coming in because that was very important to us,” Boras said. “There’s been a history of Japanese pitchers, who are very, very gifted coming here and being thrust into a situation where the physicality, not the talent of the pitcher, but the physicality and durability of the pitcher has been challenged and often led to surgery.

“Jerry was just completely understanding to our concern and mindful of it. He came back to us with a developmental plan that was very impressive and something would lead to an acclimation to the major leagues and adjusting from the six-day, seven-day approach in Japan than a five-day approach here.”
 

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Kind if crazy to me that after all this Harper is probably going to go back to Washington and Philly is looking like it won’t get either of the top free agents after they essentially declared themselves open for business. I guess they could turn around and give a ton of money to Kimbrel and Keuchel.
 

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Kind if crazy to me that after all this Harper is probably going to go back to Washington and Philly is looking like it won’t get either of the top free agents after they essentially declared themselves open for business. I guess they could turn around and give a ton of money to Kimbrel and Keuchel.
Gut feeling on Harper or have you seen/heard something?
 

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Gut feeling on Harper or have you seen/heard something?
Apparently the Nats offered him much more than 300 mil, and they are considered the favorites to land him. That would be a surprise -- I'd expect the Nats would then trade Adam Eaton, who has been hurt a lot the past two seasons but has always been productive and is under cheap control for three more years. It also might lead to bidding war between the Yanks and Phils for Machado.
 

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Ottavino is in the tier where everyone (besides Britton) is getting 2 years + an option/ 3rd year buy out. I think it’s more likely that he can leverage 2 teams like the Yankees and Red Sox against each other to get a 3rd year than it is that he’ll accept less because of Herrera’s precedent.
 

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Herrera is coming off a rotator cuff injury and his K/9 has been dropping for the past 2 seasons. That contract is mind boggling to me. I would have thought he’d be 1 year with a modest base and incentives that paid him like a closer if he pitched like one.
 

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I don't mind the Herrera move for Chicago. They have a gazillion dollars worth of payroll room and not much else to do with it, this deal will never impact their spending in other areas. Maybe they also sign Harper or Machado, their young guys all mature ahead of schedule, and Herrera helps them contend for a WC. That's unlikely. The more foreseeable upside as that Herrera is effective, the team still sucks, and they move him and his 1.5 years of control for a prospect in July.
 

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Wow, Grandal to the Brewers on a one year deal, good job turning down that four year offer from the Mets.
 

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$18.25 million!
It's a lot less exciting when you realize he turned down the $17.9M qualifying offer from LA a few months ago as well as a 4 year/$50M+ offer from the Mets more recently. Terrible job by his agent.
 

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MIL now has their highest payroll ever by far, $132M currently. That has to make it less likely they will trade for Sonny Gray as was still being rumored today, maybe he'll end up in SD.
 

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It's a lot less exciting when you realize he turned down the $17.9M qualifying offer from LA a few months ago as well as a 4 year/$50M+ offer from the Mets more recently. Terrible job by his agent.
Also, terrible job to Grandal in the postseason.
 

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$18.25 million!
It's a lot less exciting when you realize he turned down the $17.9M qualifying offer from LA a few months ago as well as a 4 year/$50M+ offer from the Mets more recently. Terrible job by his agent.

Honestly I’m becoming more confident that we are going to have a longggggg work stoppage/lockout/strike when this CBA expires.

Owners are going to try and make the CBA even more one sided towards owners than this current CBA already is and I hope tony Clark actually grows a pair and doesn’t cave to their demands.

And honestly given how terrible the last few offseason have been in terms of good players getting screwed $$$, I wouldn’t blame MLBPA if they strike. They deserve to get paid what they actually deserve.
The system is broken and it needs to be fixed. I mean he couldn't even beat the deal that Russell Martin got 4 years ago, despite being younger than Martin when he hit FA and having near similar wins in the 4 years prior to FA ( via Craig Goldstein) ..... Grandal's deal is only three hundred fifty thousand more than the damn QO for this season...
 
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