Greg Johns (@GregJohnsMLB)
Can confirm Mariners and Yankees are in process of finalizing a deal that will send James Paxton to NY for three prospects, including top-rated RH Justus Sheffield.
Guys who will be selling insurance within a couple of years. Typical.Who are the other two guys?
Swanson is a righty who's 25 and No. 22 on MLB's Yankees prospect list. Thompson-Williams is a lefty-hitting outfielder who didn't make the top 30 and will turn 24 in April.Who are the other two guys?
Sure, but he was going to have a difficult time developing his way onto the rotation because the team had zero chance of entering the year with a rookie starter. You gotta give to get and this is a very agreeable trade for the Yankees.Your #1 rated prospect for James Paxton.
you're thinking of someone else... A's faced the Yanks in WC last year. Mariners have the longest playoff drought and are now embarking on a retool at best, rebuild/teardown at worst.(and even then, he got torched against the Yankees in the WC Game last year.
Yeah I fixed it, maybe was thinking of a regular season game where they torched him.you're thinking of someone else... A's faced the Yanks in WC last year. Mariners have the longest playoff drought and are now embarking on a retool at best, rebuild/teardown at worst.
Don’t pitchers have little to no control over hit rate once you factor out K, BB, and HR? Or has that been debunked?Red Sox Stats @redsoxstats 16m16 minutes ago
Paxton ranked in the bottom 2% of MLB pitcher in Barrel % and Hard Hit Rate, and bottom 4% in Exit Velocity allowed. Lots of rockets to be had between strikeouts. No problem.
Not quite, but there's not much at the top besides Frazier, Florial, and Estrada. There is a shitload of talent at the bottom though and Cashman just went bonkers again with the international signings.Do the Yanks have middling system now? Only Florial inside the top 100, right?
This probably true of anyone who isn’t among the handful of aces that exist. Heck look at Porcello, sometimes he had a 4.50 ERA sometimes he wins a Cy Young.I honestly don’t think Paxton is all that good, so I think it’s a meh deal. If you translate his stats to Yankee Stadium and the AL East, he could easily be a 4.5+ ERA guy, or he could implode and end up in the bullpen. I think I would have run with Sheffield.
He's a run higher away from SafeCo, 3.87 ERA. But his k/9 keeps climbing, as do his innings and starts. Possible late bloomer?I honestly don’t think Paxton is all that good, so I think it’s a meh deal. If you translate his stats to Yankee Stadium and the AL East, he could easily be a 4.5+ ERA guy, or he could implode and end up in the bullpen. I think I would have run with Sheffield.
Mariner fans are going to be screaming about how they should have gotten more, and there may be something to that considering it's still November and DiPoto grabbed what sounds like maybe the first decent offer, but who knows? They shouldn't be disappointed in the abstract.I don't know, seems like a fair deal for both teams. Sort of like an Anderson Espinoza for Drew Pomeranz deal, although Sheffield is a whole lot closer to the bigs.
Yeah, I certainly think he is a good pitcher, but I am pretty high on Sheffield and think he will be better. He’s also younger and under control for longer. This isn’t a bad move or anything, the Yankees are getting a high floor in exchange for a lottery ticket, but in this case I would have kept the ticket. I think Paxton is overrated because he does the sexy stuff very, very well.This probably true of anyone who isn’t among the handful of aces that exist. Heck look at Porcello, sometimes he had a 4.50 ERA sometimes he wins a Cy Young.
Right. Before the Sox got Sale for the best prospect in baseball, there were concerns about his health and whether or not he was on the decline. Every trade for a starter comes with these risks. Find me the perfect pitcher with no question marks and I'll find you big foot.When Sheffield learns to locate his pitches, he will be very good. Lefties take longer to develop. So it could be 2-3 years. Will Seattle’s patience last that long? Do they have good teachers? What can he learn from Felix, if anything?
Paxton has durability issues.
It’s like most deals involving pitchers. A lot can go wrong.
Diaz isn't available, I think Clint needs to rebuild value in AAA at the start of the season. NY has no OF depth in AAA right now after moving Gamel and Cave and McKinney in the last couple of seasons, they need to strengthen that area even without Clint.I have to wonder where this leaves Clint Frazier. He has very little value to the Yankees. Could he be the centerpiece for another starting player or bullpen arm? Edwin Diaz?
There's a pretty clear change in direction for the Mariners from "anxiously contending" to "actually finally admitting that they need to rebuild". So I don't know why they would be rushing anyone.When Sheffield learns to locate his pitches, he will be very good. Lefties take longer to develop. So it could be 2-3 years. Will Seattle’s patience last that long? Do they have good teachers? What can he learn from Felix, if anything?
I think they still have to do that but now they just have to sign one guy, not two, and it gives them protection when PHI offers Corbin $2 billion.Seems like a good deal for both teams. Paxton is a gamble to be sure but it’s probably a better use of resources than trying this years FA crop.
Yes, Jeff Passan brought up this quandary for Seattle a couple weeks ago. Rebuild or try to compete. Hell, they won 89 games last season. But this deal indicates GM DiPoto has made his decision. Rebuild.There's a pretty clear change in direction for the Mariners from "anxiously contending" to "actually finally admitting that they need to rebuild". So I don't know why they would be rushing anyone.