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The Red Sox supplemental pick (#39 overall) in the 2010 Amateur Baseball Draft.



Name: Anthony Ranaudo
Position: Pitcher
Bats: Right
Throws: Right
School: LSU
Class: Junior
Birthdate: 9/9/1989
Height: 6'7"
Weight: 230 lbs.
Agent: Scott Boras

Lots of SoSH discussion already about Ranaudo in the Red Sox 2010 amateur draft thread.

Trade Rumors nailed it a couple weeks ago in their Prospect Previews:

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College righthanders are always a hot target come draft day, and coming into the season the best one this class had to offer was Anthony Ranaudo of Louisiana State. He made a name for himself by winning the clinching game of the 2009 College World Series, giving the Tigers their first National Championship since 2000.

Despite all his promise, Ranaudo's season was derailed by a sore elbow that not only cost him a month of the season, but also some of his effectiveness. ESPN's Keith Law recently ranked him as the 20th best prospect in the draft, while Baseball America had him 23rd (sub. req'd for both). Expected to be no worse than a top five pick a few months ago, now it's a question of whether or not Ranaudo will even be selected in the first round. He owns an 8.02 ERA with a 39/21 K/BB ratio in 42.2 innings this season, and opponents are hitting .301 off him.

Looking beyond the stats, it's easy to see why scouts like Ranaudo. He towers over the competition quite literally at 6-foot-7 and 230 lbs., and MLB.com's Draft Report says he throws his fastball up to 93. He backs it up with an over-the-top spike curveball and an average changeup, and when he's right he commands everything well. After the injury, his stuff wasn't as sharp and the control wasn't there. The MLB.com link offers video.

Law said in this week's chat that Ranaudo's strong outing in the SEC Tournament on Wednesday "threw him right back in the first round mix," but it's unlikely to get him back in the top ten picks because of the injury and his price tag. Baseball America's Aaron Fitt provided a first hand report from that game. A Scott Boras client, Ranaudo will not be cheap, nor should teams expect a discount due to the injury and poor overall performance.

Baseball America's Jim Callis projected the Red Sox to roll the dice and select Ranaudo with the 20th overall pick in his latest mock draft (sub. req'd). Boston received that pick from the Braves as compensation for losing Billy Wagner. Ranaudo is the draft's wildcard, a team willing to gamble on his health could grab him, as could a team with extra picks (Angels, Blue Jays, Red Sox, Rays). It's entirely possible that the team who drafts him will be unwilling to meet his asking price, and Boras takes Ranaudo to an independent league next year before re-entering the draft, similar to what he did with Luke Hochevar.


Exactly what teams like the Sox should do: take a chance on the risks with upside. They have the resources to take the financial hit as well as the depth and ability to absorb the sunk cost if injury or suckitude lead to prospect bust status.

Kevin Goldstein guessed he'd end up in Milwaukee, but predicted he could fall to a "rich team" like the Sox:

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The biggest wild card of the spring has been LSU right-hander Anthony Ranaudo. Seen by many as the top college arm entering the year, Ranaudo went into a tailspin following some elbow problems, leaving some to believe that he could fall completely out of the first round if a rich team in the 20s didn't take a chance on him. A strong showing in the SEC tournament has brought his stock back, and while his price tag is high, he could be a perfect fit here. Milwaukee is downright desperate for pitching help, and while the Scott Boras client won't come cheap, he could end up being a bargain similar to the Twins finding an injured Kyle Gibson available at No. 18 last year.


From MLB Draft Reports:

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Scout's report filed: 4/24/10

Scouting Report

Fastball: Ranaudo struggled in a big matchup against Ole Miss' Drew Pomeranz, but his fastball was up to 93 mph.

Fastball movement: When he's on, he'll keep the ball down in the zone, but he's got below-average life on the fastball.

Curve: He throws a spike curve, over the top with downward action, 78-80 mph. It's an average pitch.

Changeup: It's an average offering, thrown 80-81 mph. He's still working on it, and it's behind the other two pitches.

Control: He should have average command in the future, but he's been struggling with keeping the ball down in the zone.

Poise: Showed decent mound presence, with average aggressiveness on the mound.

Physical Description: Ranaudo is a big specimen but is fairly athletic on the mound.

Medical Update: A stress reaction in his elbow knocked him out of action early this year. Reports are that it's not an issue now, but he hasn't returned to form since.

Strengths: Has shown very good fastball-curve combination in past, with decent changeup. Pitching for a top college program, he has thrown in a lot of big games.

Weaknesses: The injury, and the ensuing struggles, have many concerned.

Summary: Entering the spring as perhaps the top college arm in the country, Ranaudo missed a chunk of time with an elbow issue. Brought back slowly, he has struggled to regain the form that made him such an elite prospect in the first place. More than anything, he's struggled to find a feel for the strike zone, and for keeping the ball down in it like he had in the past. How he finishes his season will go a long way toward determing his Draft stock, but the injury, together with being advised by Scott Boras, make him very difficult to place.


Most thought the Sox would land Ranaudo, but Theo was able to get him 19 picks after the estimated slot. A nice play by the front office, especially given Theo's history with Boras clients and given what is the pitcher's seeming excellent potential.
 

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Good stuff. MLB provides the best and most insightful scouting reports on the draftees. Apparently, such reports were written up by professional scouts and talent evaluators and thus are vastly superior to reports that are written up by amateurs from the Internet community.

Ranaudo certainly comes with some injury risk. He might be one of those pitchers who can’t maintain the health of his arm over the long term.

I have a question. When a team fails to sign its first round pick, that team is awarded a first round pick in the subsequent draft. Does that same rule apply to sandwich picks–like Ranaudo--as well? If the Red Sox do not sign Ranaudo, will they be awarded a sandwich pick in next year’s draft?

Ranaudo hired Boras as his agent and so we can be certain that the guy wants a huge signing bonus. At the end of the day, the Red Sox may decide that the risk is not worth the investment.
 

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QUOTE (jippaman @ Jun 8 2010, 12:22 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3011327
Most thought the Sox would land Ranaudo, but Theo was able to get him 19 picks after the estimated slot. A nice play by the front office, especially given Theo's history with Boras clients and given what is the pitcher's seeming excellent potential.
Yes, but that does not mean Ranaudo isn't expecting a bonus much higher than the slot he was drafted in would pay. If he had been eligible the year before, he would have been one of the top picks in the draft Now he's going to pitch in the Cape Cod League with the hopes of convincing the Red Sox his arm is all right and that his signing bonus should be somewhere in the top-ten range. A glance at 2009 league stats suggests that CCBL starters work in five-man rotations but they also only work 4 to 5 innings per game. Is that going to be enough for Boston to make the proper evaluation of his arm status? There is also the August signing deadline with which to contend. The CCBL regular season ends on August 4th, which does not leave a lot of time to dicker with Boras and failure to sign will only throw the start of Ranaudo's professional career off by about 2.5 months (this is assuming that if Boston does sign him in August, he wouldn't start playing until next April).

I'm guessing that if the Red Sox like what they see of his performance in the CCBL after three or four starts, they'd make their move instead of waiting for the end of that season.. The longer things stretch out, the more apt the club would be to settle for a compensation pick in next year's draft.
 

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Is Raunado going to sign? He's dominating CCBL in his first two starts. I really hope he doesn't try to go back to school and contend for a top 5 slot next year. The Sox can afford to pay him a top 5 or top 10 slot bonus so let's get this done sooner rather than later.
 

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I doubt they would have drafted him so early if they weren't committed to signing him. I like their chances to get it done. Historically the Sox are (not surprisingly) good about getting their top picks signed, even the tough signs. You have to think they drafted two quick sign, slot money guys in Vitek and Brentz with the knowledge that they'd be drafting Ranaudo and would need to go well overslot to sign him.
 

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Red Sox evaluators kept a sharp eye on Anthony Ranaudo on Saturday night, and they may be seeing the price tag rise before their eyes. There's really never been much doubt about Ranaudo's ability but his health became a question mark this spring. With the way he is throwing the ball right now, that appears to be a non-issue. But, although the performance was strong overall, I have my doubts about paying him the top dollar he may be asking for. Is he one of the best few arms from the 2010 class? Absolutely. But, there are some legitimate concerns.

The best thing about Ranaudo on Saturday was without a doubt his fastball life. He worked at 91-94 mph throughout the night, hovering around 92 for the most part. He gets an outstanding downhill plane from his 6-foot-7 frame, and the hop on his fastball down in the zone was quite impressive. The velocity came easily and the ball was coming out of his hand nicely.

His secondary offerings were a little bit of a different story, however. He dropped in a couple of very good curveballs at 78-81 mph, but for the most part he struggled to get it down in the zone, and missed badly up and away a few times. Ranaudo also mixed in a changeup at 82-83 mph, but there was a real lack of feel there and he didn't use it all that often.

So, what Boston does with Ranaudo or what they are willing to pay remains to be seen, but overall what he did on this night can only be positive for him. He's looking much more now like the pitcher that made him a projected top-five pick heading into 2010.
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QUOTE (RedOctober3829 @ Jun 27 2010, 02:04 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3049653
Is Raunado going to sign? He's dominating CCBL in his first two starts. I really hope he doesn't try to go back to school and contend for a top 5 slot next year. The Sox can afford to pay him a top 5 or top 10 slot bonus so let's get this done sooner rather than later.

I'd expect he wants top 5 money and is unlikely to sign for less than top 10 money. The better he pitches, the more he will demand, but his demands don't really have a ton of room to rise.

On some level, his pitching well might actually increase the likelihood of his signing. My guess is he and Boras have a dollar figure that isn't going to change a ton based on his CCBL performance whereas the Red Sox will be much more willing to meet it if he continues to show that he is healthy and back to being the pitcher he was a year ago.
 

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Ranaudo's father: "I'm not so sure that he's going to sign"QUOTE
"I'm not so sure that he's going to sign," said Angelo Ranaudo, Anthony's father, who often drives his motor home from New Jersey to Louisiana to watch his son pitch. "I think he's excited about leading the team to another championship. He talks about it all the time."

"If Anthony's not treated and viewed as one of the top 10 picks in the draft by the Boston Red Sox, in terms of their financial commitment, then Anthony wants to come back to LSU and prove that he can be that guy," said LSU associate head coach David Grewe. "If I am the Boston Red Sox, if I am the person in charge, I value Anthony Ranaudo and I treat Anthony Ranaudo as if he's going to be a No. 1, 2 or 3 starter for me in the big leagues."

Dad might want to take a look at this guy: Alex Meyer
 

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I posted this in the Cape Cod Baseball league thread as well...how genuine this is is debatable. It just sounds like an ongoing Boras storyline discussion that will wind through the summer trying to create some leverage. Even the guy in the mobile home is on board.
 

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I think it will take 6-10 money to get him signed. I think the Red Sox knew that when they drafted him. His strong performance this summer will go a long way toward increasing the chance that the Red Sox are willing to pay him what he thinks he is worth. I actually think his performing well makes his signing much more likely since I don't think his asking price was going to come down that much if he struggled.
 

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QUOTE (JakeRae @ Jun 27 2010, 09:13 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3050242
I'd expect he wants top 5 money and is unlikely to sign for less than top 10 money. The better he pitches, the more he will demand, but his demands don't really have a ton of room to rise.

On some level, his pitching well might actually increase the likelihood of his signing. My guess is he and Boras have a dollar figure that isn't going to change a ton based on his CCBL performance whereas the Red Sox will be much more willing to meet it if he continues to show that he is healthy and back to being the pitcher he was a year ago.


I believed you then...

QUOTE (JakeRae @ Jul 2 2010, 07:09 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3057805
I think it will take 6-10 money to get him signed. I think the Red Sox knew that when they drafted him. His strong performance this summer will go a long way toward increasing the chance that the Red Sox are willing to pay him what he thinks he is worth. I actually think his performing well makes his signing much more likely since I don't think his asking price was going to come down that much if he struggled.


...and I believe you now.
 

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Ranaudo is putting his money where his mouth is tonight, he has been FILTHY.

7 IP, 5 H, 5 Ks, 1 BB

season: 17.2 IP, 7 H, 3 BB, 16 K
 

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Opponents are OPSing .322 against him.

There is no typo in that sentence.

I want this kid.
 

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Maybe I'm suffering from the "its not my money" syndrome, but I don't see a compelling reason not to sign him for top 10 money. If he's negating the concerns about his performance and injury (?) this year, then he's essentially top 10 talent. He's making a mockery of Cape Code League hitters and I don't think has anything left to prove to the club. At least with the information we have, is there any reason not to pay this kid top 10, possibly top 5 money?
 

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I think there's a real possibility that he goes back to LSU. He really sounds like he wants to win another national title after last years embarrassment. Theo is going to really have to pony up to get him to leave a situation that he loves. Every start his price tag goes up and everyone involved knows it.
 

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Every start his price tag goes up and everyone involved knows it.


And every start he pitches well the more likely he is to sign. If he sucked on the Cape and the purse strings tightened there is no question Boras would send him back to school. Pitching well is the best case for all three parties.
 

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QUOTE (RedOctober3829 @ Jul 5 2010, 03:25 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3060613
Every start his price tag goes up and everyone involved knows it.


I don't think his ostensible price tag goes up; I think his expectations go up. Which is to say, he'll still be asking the same amount (because, as has been said, he was asking for top money anyway) but it will be more realistic to actually expect him to collect it. If I'm Theo, and I'm watching these starts, and I think they're representative of where he really is right now, I'm becoming more and more willing to give him top money, especially since my top two picks signed for slot anyway.
 

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QUOTE (SoxScout @ Jul 5 2010, 03:40 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3060620
And every start he pitches well the more likely he is to sign. If he sucked on the Cape and the purse strings tightened there is no question Boras would send him back to school. Pitching well is the best case for all three parties.

No question. Raunado could be on the fast track to the big leagues. Theo better not lowball him since he should have the cash in the draft budget there to overslot him. Its a no brainer to sign this kid.
 

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QUOTE (RedOctober3829 @ Jul 5 2010, 03:25 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3060613
I think there's a real possibility that he goes back to LSU. He really sounds like he wants to win another national title after last years embarrassment. Theo is going to really have to pony up to get him to leave a situation that he loves. Every start his price tag goes up and everyone involved knows it.


The kid ain't going back to college.

As for the price tag: The only question, for both sides, was and remains the signing range. He's not there to leverage whether or not to sign; he's there in order to max out. The FO will sign him, and would have signed him even had he not performed so well. Otherwise they wouldn't have taken him.

You know going into the draft what the talent is; who the agent is; what the injury history is. You don't take him unless you plan to pay for him.
 

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QUOTE (OCD SS @ Jul 5 2010, 06:30 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3060737
Regarding Ranaudo's Cape stats, Chris Hatfield had this post that I think everyone should bear in mind.

That said, I still think the Sox expected to pay him at least $2M, and I want him signed.


You can still inflate the stats quite a bit before .322 OPS against becomes unimpressive, but I expect the actual results rank far below what his mechanics and velocity look like.

Edit - In terms of the Sox decision-making.
 

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QUOTE (Brianish @ Jul 5 2010, 07:22 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=3060787
You can still inflate the stats quite a bit before .322 OPS against becomes unimpressive, but I expect the actual results rank far below what his mechanics and velocity look like.

Edit - In terms of the Sox decision-making.

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#redsox draftee Ranaudo peaked at 94mph, with sharp curve, in front of Sox GM Epstein and scouting director Sawdaye

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Put those stats together with his ties to the Sox, and it should be no surprise that the number of adolescents looking for a signature was swelling.

There was one surprise among the ranks of the autograph-seekers, however. One man found a way to pave his way through the chest-high spectators and shook the hand of the pitching stud.

“Anthony, Theo Epstein, GM of the Red Sox. Nice to meet you. Nice job out there tonight.”

With that, the drafter had his first face-to-face contact with the draftee since the one had taken the other on June 7.
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“I thought I had pretty good command on all three pitches and everything. I don’t know exactly what my fastball [velocity] was, but I didn’t feel like I had as good a [velocity] as I did last week. But I was able to locate the ball and have some good movement,” he said. “I was able to flash the changeup early so hitters knew I had three good pitches working all day so I thought it was probably one of the better starts.”
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I think Boras is going to make Ranaudo not sign because he is mad that Jacoby Ellsbury was initially diagnosed with bruised ribs.

Honestly, though, I can't see him going back to LSU and risking another injury unless his demands go stupidly high.
 

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Look, not only is the Cape an extreme pitcher's league, but the early-season data (mid-June through mid-July) is far more lopsided than late July into mid-August. There are several factors for this, chiefly that hitters have a hard time getting acclimated (or re-acclimated in some cases) to using wood bats. Opposing managers know this and ride their starters to consistently pound guys inside. You see A SHITLOAD more inside pitching early in the season.

Other factors are that early in the season, many teams are still waiting for players to arrive from the College World Series (Falmouth was short 5 studs for 3 weeks the last time Oregon State won it all), while others are lost to the Team USA tryouts. And the vast majority of these guys are position players. They're replaced not by the next-best guys in the college ranks, but local college kids and even recent high school grads. The quality of lineups early on pales in comparison to how they look for the final month of the schedule.
 

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Currently has a no-hitter through 5 innings.

Also, he is meeting with Boras and LSU after the game to make some decisions.
 

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Struggled with control early and late tonight. Dominate in the middle innings with ground outs and strikeouts. I think 5 of the 6 K's were on curves.

Season: 23.2 IP, 7 H, 0 R, 7 BB, 22 K

0.00 ERA, 0.59 WHIP, 8.4 K/9, 2.7 BB/9, 3.1 K/BB
 
I think the idea that mandatory slotting may be in the near future should affect ownership's feeling in these negotiations. We keep hearing that it will happen w/in a couple years and if it's true, that limits the Sox from using their pockets to sign guys like Ranaudo. So why not open the checkbook and pay a top 5 - 10 bonus knowing that you can't do this for much longer.
 

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I think the idea that mandatory slotting may be in the near future should affect ownership's feeling in these negotiations. We keep hearing that it will happen w/in a couple years and if it's true, that limits the Sox from using their pockets to sign guys like Ranaudo. So why not open the checkbook and pay a top 5 - 10 bonus knowing that you can't do this for much longer.


Id' be stunned if that wasn't exactly the FO's plan.
 

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I got word last night from someone with Brewster that Ranaudo was starting tonight.

He didn't start tonight. Don't know why. Glad I decided not to take the trip down to see him though.

Edit: Game called after an inning, probably a weather decision.
 

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Here is today's boxscore, Ranaudo has allowed his first run of the season. Keith Law is apparently there scouting, tweeting that "[he] hit 94 six times in the first."

Now for this, a sports reporter at WAFB in Baton Rouge is reporting a reliable baseball source at LSU says Ranaudo is not signing with the Sox and returning to LSU.
 

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Here is today's boxscore, Ranaudo has allowed his first run of the season. Keith Law is apparently there scouting, tweeting that "[he] hit 94 six times in the first."

Now for this, a sports reporter at WAFB in Baton Rouge is reporting a reliable baseball source at LSU says Ranaudo is not signing with the Sox and returning to LSU.
That really sucks. From everything that I've heard it sounds like he really like the college game, LSU and feels that he has some unfinished business after their relatively disappointing season. Im sure having Boras in his ear telling him he will go top 5 next year and deserves to get paid accordingly ls not helping our chances of singing him either. I just hope we don't low ball him, because losing out on him because of his salary would be weak.
 

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That really sucks. From everything that I've heard it sounds like he really like the college game, LSU and feels that he has some unfinished business after their relatively disappointing season. Im sure having Boras in his ear telling him he will go top 5 next year and deserves to get paid accordingly ls not helping our chances of singing him either. I just hope we don't low ball him, because losing out on him because of his salary would be weak.
I wouldn't get too hung up on what some source from LSU says about the situation. Actually, I wouldn't get too hung up on what any source says until it's confirmed that a contract is signed or the deadline passes. I still remember getting excited about a report claiming the Sox and Alex Meyer were suddenly expected to reach an agreement.

There's no way this thing isn't going down to the wire.
 

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I wouldn't get too hung up on what some source from LSU says about the situation. Actually, I wouldn't get too hung up on what any source says until it's confirmed that a contract is signed or the deadline passes. I still remember getting excited about a report claiming the Sox and Alex Meyer were suddenly expected to reach an agreement.

There's no way this thing isn't going down to the wire.
I absolutely agree that this is far from over and it is hard to turn down several million dollars with the risk of getting hurt (which he has already experienced). " Everyone has a price" as they say and all the talking he has done with regards to how much he likes LSU could be a move to drive that price up
 

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Pitching quite well tonight. Very efficient: a little over 71% strikes (54/76 pitches thrown were strikes).

I will say that if he does sign with the Sox he should be on the fast track to play in the majors. It would be almost be a waste going through another season at the NCAA level when he could arguably being playing in the show next year.
 

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One game with control troubles, strikeout dominant throughout. He's pitching and pretty damn consistent, I think those were all he had to prove on the Cape.

EDIT: scoring change. unearned run. Still at 0.
 

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thecollegebaseballblog.com reported Ranaudo is done for the summer last night, Cape Cod Times has the same this afternoon.

Start the clock, exactly 4 weeks for him to decide.
 

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thecollegebaseballblog.com reported Ranaudo is done for the summer last night, Cape Cod Times has the same this afternoon.

Start the clock, exactly 4 weeks for him to decide.
The Red Sox will pay him. In the end, what does he choose? Will he get a better payday next year if he goes back to school for another year?
 

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The Red Sox will pay him. In the end, what does he choose? Will he get a better payday next year if he goes back to school for another year?
Considering the depth of next year's draft and how well he pitched on the Cape, I find it hard to believe Boras will advise him to walk away from the money the Sox will offer. The Sox have to be pleased with how he performed and he'll lose leverage next year if he goes back for his senior season.

Both sides want to get this done, and I think we'll hear he signed around 11:55 on 8/15.
 

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You think we'll see any pictures of him in his living room signing a document with the Red Sox letterheard? Maybe the picture will be posted by his brother on a different Sox forum?


I hope not. Because that turned out pretty bad.
 

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You think we'll see any pictures of him in his living room signing a document with the Red Sox letterheard? Maybe the picture will be posted by his brother on a different Sox forum?


I hope not. Because that turned out pretty bad.
Yeah, but Craig Hansen didn't have the kind of Cape League season as Ranaudo. I mean, he was better, but not the same.


For the record, 22 1/3 IP, 9 hits, 0 ER, 2 BB, 41K, 10 saves