I guess this shows how much you have to control the narrative as an athlete in these situations. Get it done or the media will take it over. Twitter is a runaway locomotive.
Hayward to Boston...Really, We Mean It
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This could surely be part of it. Celtics have to move some money anyway. They could work a sign and trade so Hayward gets the most money, and Utah gets something rather than Hayward walking for free. Say Utah would take back Bradley, but want him to renegotiate and extend. Now, Bradley and his agents need to be involved in diiscussions.
I can imagine scenario where BOS gets raked over the coals cause they have to trade Smart/Crowder/Bradley in order to squeeze Hayward in. Probably better to have that all lined up before an announcement is made.
If Hayward was represented by the Titus Brand, none of this amateur disorganization would be happening.
I'm not assuming any calls were made, but once you start sharing info with more people, the clock is ticking. You can't expect to prevent leaks, you must expect them and plan accordingly.
Unless there was only one team interested (which seems silly) there is no real loss of leverage, best offer wins.
Besides that, Celtics would want to lock Hayward in by having him publicly say he was signing.
To me, if Gordon ends up in Boston, this is not only a waste of a 4th of July Holiday, but the best thing that could have happened to twitter.
I cannot stand the "race to report first" trend in media. It has killed all integrity the profession may have once had.
I cannot stand the "race to report first" trend in media. It has killed all integrity the profession may have once had.
Alex Kennedy reporting that other free agents are getting annoyed with this situation. Need the domino to fall so they can move on.
Yes...then again, it's possible the Haynes guy was not wrong. It's not his job to cater to an athlete's schedule. It seems like maybe Hayward is the one unsure about how leaks and the media work.
I love all the conspiracy theories, BUT... isn't the simplest explanation that he hadn't actually decided yet and someone misinterpreted him "leaning" Boston or some other 2nd hand info as having decided and leaked it to reputable people. Rumor spreads, and as such multiple good journalists can get a confirmation.
This is the way it will be from now on, no amount of 'jumping the gun' mistakes is going to change it.
I get the impression that he's been kinda insulated from this shit a bit. KD knew what was coming and ran a tight ship, this has to be kinda new for Hayward who has never been in the spotlight to this extent before.
Seems pretty clear he's coming to Boston just didn't get a chance to have the proper conversations first. Everyone needs to have a beer, relax, fire up the grill and check back in before fireworks.
Yeah it's ridiculous that Haynes apparently got a single text/e-mail from someone and immediately posted it rather than, you know, calling the agent (who would have immediately told him nothing was final).
Edit: or even texting Woj just to ask "hey this what I'm hearing, is this source legit?"
The specificity of detail (Several pages back, too lazy to look) was surprising. Some part of a deal seems to have been established. This tilts me towards a sign and trade being hammered out to get the Celtics below the cap.
But then I was certain that The Donald would never get elected, and look what that got me.
But then I was certain that The Donald would never get elected, and look what that got me.
Right. The only thing clear to me is how full of shit these "reporters" are. One person posts the signing, and within minutes we have hundreds of people with "my sources confirm..."
They're fucking liars and I hope they all get lampooned for it.
What about the sources in the league office?
ESPN has a source(s) that it feels strong enough to counter the agents statement.
What a crazy bottom line story.
ESPN has a source(s) that it feels strong enough to counter the agents statement.
What a crazy bottom line story.
Fair enough, I shouldn't single Haynes out - many people did the same thing (and may have all been relying on the same source for all we know).
Doesn't change the point that the race to report first (or to retweet what other people are saying, thereby suggesting you agree with it) is really stupid and counterproductive.
But we don't know if they had a source or just rode his coat tails to jump on the click train.
Did the subsequent reports just piggy back or actually get a report from a source, the same or a different as Haynes did?
I feel they all just ran with it. We haven't heard anyone say that they had a source. Pretty horrible reporting.
I feel they all just ran with it. We haven't heard anyone say that they had a source. Pretty horrible reporting.
All the more reason to trust in Woj. He never joined the bandwagon. Hell, he never retweeted his coworker's claim
As an Arsenal and Celtics fan, this free agency/transfer window shit gets old. It's always a production, can't ever be easy.
Exactly. It means jack shit that other "journalists" confirmed the initial tweet. They all care about one thing - appearing like they actually have sources.
I could see that it many cases, but guys like Zach Lowe and Adam Himmlesbach have earned my trust. I believe that they actually have their own sources that confirmed to them.
Was thinking this day couldn't get any stranger... Then three teams texted, wondering who Celts may make available assuming Hayward signs.
nodding
Your facts are not welcome here...we are getting the anti-media torches lit!
Zach Lowe's confirmatory tweet from a couple hours ago cited "sources" (i.e., more than one) "close to Hayward." Always possible he's making it up, but Lowe seems pretty reliable and multiple sources close to the player strikes me as pretty solid.
Great ... all that means is that the rest of us have to have faith in your ability to trust people
Is Pat Riley a "league source?" The most likely explanation is that Hayward just wants to think it over, but I would not be shocked to learn that Riley, since he couldn't get Hayward, is doing everything he can to keep Hayward out of the Eastern Conference.
Especially since a guy like Lowe isn't really in the "breaking news" business, he doesn't often do that, it's his job like it is for Woj or Shams, and he certainly wasn't going for a "first" type thing or clicks since he didn't have anything written on it and credited the guy who had it first.
The whole way it happened makes me think someone in Hayward's camp leaked it (whether it was actually a final decision or not) and it started making the rounds with NBA people, so that when Lowe reaches out to his guys, several of them say... "yeah I'm hearing it's definitely Boston from someone who'd know", of course the original "guy who'd know" can always be wrong.
Chris Haynes is now reporting that Arod has been traded to the Red Sox with Manny and some young gun named Jon Lester going to the Rangers.
You're not going to be excited when Gordon Lacazette is sold to the Celtics?
I don't trust everybody, I trust those guys because I feel they've earned it.
You know, just like you tweeted just before this that you trust Woj.
I mean great...all that meant was the rest of us have to have faith in your ability to trust Woj?
If this was enough to sour him on Boston, he was never meant for this town and its sports media.
Wojo has never been wrong. He is a very reputable source. He is the Bob Ryan of this generation.
