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Not to belabor the point, but I don't think most UM fans (dhappy excluded) are arguing the spot as much, I'm certainly not. That was a close play and my biggest gripe with it was the fact that there was no measurement, not the resulting first down. It was close enough to be a legitimate error. However, Twib hits the reffing issues on the nose above - the disparity on DPI and holding calls throughout the game were a much bigger issue. And while I find the fact that Ohioans previously banned from reffing were reffing this game disconcerting, their mistakes also stem from the fact that the Big10 is too cheap to professionalize refs full time. Considering how much money comes out of the sport, that's pretty shocking.
Why would there need to be a measurement? They start from the 25 yard line in OT, so if the ball is spotted with any point touching the 15, it's a first down.
 

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Holy shit, can you please waste more of your day and dig up more game footage?

I mean, I sort of get it, UM hasn't beaten OSU in eons and they finally had a chance to slay the big bad dragon. Except you fell short, so now you have to hold onto any glimmer of hope that you're as good as the big brother from the south.

It's pathetic, really, but also cute in a way. I just want to squeeze your cheeks and give you a quarter to buy a piece of gum.
See, that's the thing. Saturday's result rested on edge and yes I'm bummed about it, but I'm not worried about another 15 years of OSU dominance because Harbaugh makes these teams more even than they have been since the early 2000s. I don't think it's questionable that Harbaugh is leaps and bounds better than Hoke/RichRod and personally, I happen to think he's in an elite group of coaches that includes Saban and Meyer. Next year OSU will be stacked (again) and UM will have a younger lineup while Harbaugh's classes continue to filter up, but I expect these teams to play more exciting close games with postseason implications as long as these two coaches remain. Saturday's game was awesome and exciting from beginning to end. Neutrals enjoyed it too and at the end of the day, I want to watch good teams play each other. I may miss a Rutgers or Purdue game, but I'm never missing The Game, especially not while these 2 programs are both elite.
 

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Why would there need to be a measurement? They start from the 25 yard line in OT, so if the ball is spotted with any point touching the 15, it's a first down.
You're right, mea culpa. Regarding this play, is the first down line is the leading edge of the 15 (towards midfield, so basically breaking the plane), the middle of the 15 yard line, or the trailing edge (towards the EZ)?
 

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Oh for goodness sake. Michigan fans don't understand the NCAA PI rules.

A defender can make contact with a receiver AT ANY TIME BEFORE THE BALL IS THROWN as long as the receiver is in front of him. The first PI which you weenies are acting like weenies about wasn't even close to being PI. Please, read the rule book. You can literally knock a receiver to the ground in NCAA football should you so choose, just not when the ball is in the air. The D-back engaged the receiver per the rulebook, the D-back eventually ran into his own player and jumped to avoid contact,falling to the ground. Not PI ever.

I'm already tired of this. Please, read the rule book.
 
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You're right, mea culpa. Regarding this play, is the first down line is the leading edge of the 15 (towards midfield, so basically breaking the plane), the middle of the 15 yard line, or the trailing edge (towards the EZ)?
I always understood it as being like the goal line in these cases. So the "plane" is the leading edge.
 

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Not only was it not the same thing, it was very, very much not the same game.

Damn son, you keep saying how Michigan brings the smartyness, but I am left wanting.
I knew you were dense before this thread and you haven't disappointed.

Meyer threw his headset in the game on saturday. Which was different game against Bama. When he also threw his headset.
 

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I knew you were dense before this thread and you haven't disappointed.

Meyer threw his headset in the game on saturday. Which was different game against Bama. When he also threw his headset.
He smashed his headset adjacent to the ref and threw his playsheet on the field?

Oh wait, no, he didn't.

You are finding new and creative ways for me to hold more disdain for people who are affiliated with UM. Kudos!
 

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USA Today questions officials fairness and competency:

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/94570042/?client=safari

Edit: is it a coincidence that the three Ohio officials, the back judge ( pass interference), Michigan sideline judge (it's a technical in basketball) and head referee (the spot) made the game-changing calls?

Or that a team that averaged 7/52 yards in penalties all season was only called for 2/6 yards by this hometown crew?
 

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Show your work. This post is as useless as one of Yammer's without comedy.
You really want me to prove that Michigan did not benefit from a single missed call? Your linemen never held? Your DBs never got away with excessive contact? I mean, sure, it's also possible that the sun won't come up tomorrow but my experience is that it probably will. And the sun not coming up is still more likely than a human being making perfect calls on a football field.

I have zero ties to either school other than being a Tom Brady fan boy but holy shit you guys whine like no other school I've ever seen. I honestly haven't paid attention long enough to know if this is a Harbaugh thing or a UM thing but it sounds like it's a lot of the latter. You guys really did hire the perfect coach.
 

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If bitching about biased Big10 refs stealing a big game from Michigan for three days is whining, what do we call Pats fans who are still bitching about Deflategate and Goodell more than a year later, not to mention the shirtiness of NFL officiating practically every week, even when the Pats win?

Pats fan whiners are an order of magnitude worse than UM whiners. Besides, if the spot had been reversed, Buckeye fan bawling (and likely post-game rioting) would make all this UM grousing seem like a polite parliamentary point of order.
 

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Because they're professional referees who aren't going to let some dumbass rivalry get in the way of a decent chunk of extra change they get ($3,000 per game per a quick and dirty Google). People can be objective even if they are from the same place as a given team. Wild concept, I know. It's another example of the wholehearted pettiness many are exhibiting. When you start going after the hometowns of refs, you're desperate.
Okay. Next year let's play The Game with three officials from Ann Arbor and see what happens.
 

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If bitching about biased Big10 refs stealing a big game from Michigan for three days is whining, what do we call Pats fans who are still bitching about Deflategate and Goodell more than a year later, not to mention the shirtiness of NFL officiating practically every week, even when the Pats win?

Pats fan whiners are an order of magnitude worse than UM whiners. Besides, if the spot had been reversed, Buckeye fan bawling (and likely post-game rioting) would make all this UM grousing seem like a polite parliamentary point of order.
It would probably be easier for your psyche to just admit that the football team of the school you hate owns the football team of the school you like. Doesn't make you a bad person, just means that you root for an inferior program and head coach, at least this decade...
 

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This play was the Peppers INT. Michigan fumbled on the GL that drive, but it pinned OSU deep in their own territory and they scored after getting the ball back (albeit off a fake punt, but they still would've had excellent field position). Jones isn't even touching Wormley and he goes straight into Barrett's knee.
 

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Complaining about imaginary "Buckeye fan bawling" seems inappropriate today, and even more preposterous is the notion that there is any time limit on or cap on the extent of whining I can do about deflategate and Goodell.
 

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Oh for goodness sake. Michigan fans don't understand the NCAA PI rules.

A defender can make contact with a receiver AT ANY TIME BEFORE THE BALL IS THROWN as long as the receiver is in front of him. The first PI which you weenies are acting like weenies about wasn't even close to being PI. Please, read the rule book. You can literally knock a receiver to the ground in NCAA football should you so choose, just not when the ball is in the air. The D-back engaged the receiver per the rulebook, the D-back eventually ran into his own player and jumped to avoid contact,falling to the ground. Not PI ever.

I'm already tired of this. Please, read the rule book.
Careful. Telling a Harbaugh to read the rule book will get you suspended four games.

See? No limits.
 

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It would probably be easier for your psyche to just admit that the football team of the school you hate owns the football team of the school you like. Doesn't make you a bad person, just means that you root for an inferior program and head coach, at least this decade...
Your concern for my psyche is touching, but misplaced. I don't in any way hate Ohio State and have no problem saying that OSU has had a better football program than Michigan for a least a decade. I also believe the refs were biased and robbed Michigan on Saturday. Refs fuck up games all the time. We all know that. Some of us, though, can't admit it when our team benefits from biased or bad officiating, even when it's obvious to nearly everyone else.
 

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There's a difference between saying the refs fucked up and the refs are biased. One is a rational thought and one undermines the general integrity of sports. Your inability to grasp this throughout this thread is truly breathtaking.
 

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Complaining about imaginary "Buckeye fan bawling" seems inappropriate today, and even more preposterous is the notion that there is any time limit on or cap on the extent of whining I can do about deflategate and Goodell.
Point taken re Buckeye bawling.

But I'm not proposing a time limit on bitching about Deflategate... or The Spot. Pretty much the opposite.

One of the things that's funny about this thread is the vehemence of the push-back against UM fan bitching about the refs. Reminds me of Jets and Colts fans in Deflategate threads. One side argues the facts. The other side calls them names and says "get over it" again and again and again.
 

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The thing that makes Carolina/Duke bball such a great rivalry is how even the teams are.
Even given all the awful posts in this thread, the above has to take the cake.

Since 2010, Duke has won 11 games, UNC has won 4 games. A .730 winning percentage isn't exactly "even".
 

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Point taken re Buckeye bawling.

But I'm not proposing a time limit on bitching about Deflategate... or The Spot. Pretty much the opposite.

One of the things that's funny about this thread is the vehemence of the push-back against UM fan bitching about the refs. Reminds me of Jets and Colts fans in Deflategate threads. One side argues the facts. The other side calls them names and says "get over it" again and again and again.
Although one side did actually end up being proven wrong in Federal Court, despite having a 700+ page thread saying "this won't hold up in court!" over and over again.

It's not vehemence, it is telling you that you are acting like a fool. Two very different constructs.
 

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Even given all the awful posts in this thread, the above has to take the cake.

Since 2010, Duke has won 11 games, UNC has won 4 games. A .730 winning percentage isn't exactly "even".
It is as if every annoying fan base in America has come to this thread. If we could get some SEC fans in here that would really make things whole.
 

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Point taken re Buckeye bawling.

But I'm not proposing a time limit on bitching about Deflategate... or The Spot. Pretty much the opposite.

One of the things that's funny about this thread is the vehemence of the push-back against UM fan bitching about the refs. Reminds me of Jets and Colts fans in Deflategate threads. One side argues the facts. The other side calls them names and says "get over it" again and again and again.
Like Michigan getting a pick on a blatant roughing the passer? Refs miss calls. They missed a big one on Michigan there. Unfortunately, much as it's been the last 16 years, Michigan failed to execute enough to win the game.

The Ginn punt return in '04 might be my favorite play ever. I think it literally killed Michigan football.
 

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He smashed his headset adjacent to the ref and threw his playsheet on the field?

Oh wait, no, he didn't.

You are finding new and creative ways for me to hold more disdain for people who are affiliated with UM. Kudos!
I don't have any finger puppets for you. Just words. Both coaches threw headsets. Neither coach threw their scripts on the field. Harbaugh threw his script toward his bench. Harbaugh was penalized because the adjacent ref was also a basketball coach. Urban Meyer wasn't penalized (nor was OSU penalized for much of anything, but that's familiar ground).

I'm looking forward to your next post. It will go like this:

1. Pretend to misunderstand a previous poster or my post
2. Gloss over facts - especially if they reflect poorly on OSU and its #31 ranked medical school.
3. OSU fucking rules/UM sucks
4. Michigan fans are childish and they should feel bad.
5. Insult the poster.

Carry on...
 
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There's a difference between saying the refs fucked up and the refs are biased. One is a rational thought and one undermines the general integrity of sports. Your inability to grasp this throughout this thread is truly breathtaking.
I understand the difference perfectly well, thanks, but one does not exclude the other.

Also, bias can be intentional or subconscious. There are lots of studies that demonstrate NEUTRAL referees are biased towards home teams, probably because of some fan effect, subconsciously wanting to be liked by or, at least not hated by 100,000 screaming people. You have to believe that the effect is even greater on HOMETOWN referees.

Someone here commented that no ref would jeopardize future paychecks to help a team he's a fan of win a game. First, the risk of that is tiny since it's almost impossible to prove a bad call was made with unethical intent. Second, $3000 is a pittance compared to the risk/reward involved. Imagine if the back judge had thrown a DPI flag in OT or the head referee from Ohio had reversed the spot and Michigan had won the game. They'd have been vilified by friends, family, neighbors and every OSU fan for the rest of their lives. Would probably have to leave the state a la Bartman. Instead, they're now getting free beers for life in Ohio.
 

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I still can't believe I went into this game hoping Michigan would win (mostly because of Tom Brady as I have no allegiances to either team otherwise.) Luckily for me, a good portion of the Michigan fans in this thread gave me a good reason to start rooting for Ohio State as the game went on, so I ended up happy. As a neutral observer, this was a very enjoyable game to watch, looked to be officiated fairly throughout, and this game thread was fantastic until the game ended and the whiny Michigan fans appeared en masse. Get over it, guys, and get them back next year.
 

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It's actually about $36,000 per year for working 12 days a year, which you can do well into your 60s. So it's more like risking $36k over let's say 20 years. So that's potential earnings of around $720k. Taking into account taxes at about 30%, that's netting you around $500k in extra cash from working 240 extra days. If you're able to invest that at a conservative rate, you're sitting pretty in Del Boca Vista come retirement time.

I'm disappointed they handed out the same piece of paper to us.
 

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Like Michigan getting a pick on a blatant roughing the passer? Refs miss calls. They missed a big one on Michigan there. Unfortunately, much as it's been the last 16 years, Michigan failed to execute enough to win the game.

The Ginn punt return in '04 might be my favorite play ever. I think it literally killed Michigan football.
Roughing the passer? Missed that one. Quit whining. Get over it.

The fact of the matter is that Michigan DID execute when it mattered: the Michigan defense stopped Ohio on (what should have been) a game-ending 4th-and-one play in OT.

Did both teams make mistakes earlier in the game? Sure. Lots of them. Two missed chip-shot field goals, a pick six, a goal line fumble... there were plenty on both sides, but the missed blatant DPI and bad spot in OT determined the game's final outcome.

Seriously, when winning a game hinges on a generous spot by a hometown referee, you don't have much to brag about. I get it that they don't teach humility (or much else) at Ohio, but your parents should have raised you better.
 

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USA Today questions officials fairness and competency:

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.usatoday.com/story/94570042/?client=safari

Edit: is it a coincidence that the three Ohio officials, the back judge ( pass interference), Michigan sideline judge (it's a technical in basketball) and head referee (the spot) made the game-changing calls?

Or that a team that averaged 7/52 yards in penalties all season was only called for 2/6 yards by this hometown crew?
Five fewer penalties doesn't seem like that big of a deal. At all. I'm sure with ten minutes I could find a bunch of instances of teams getting 5 more or fewer penalties than their average in any given game.
 

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Seriously, when winning a game hinges on a generous spot by a hometown referee, you don't have much to brag about. I get it that they don't teach humility (or much else) at Ohio, but your parents should have raised you better.
Your participation ribbon is in the mail.
 

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It's actually about $36,000 per year for working 12 days a year, which you can do well into your 60s. So it's more like risking $36k over let's say 20 years. So that's potential earnings of around $720k. Taking into account taxes at about 30%, that's netting you around $500k in extra cash from working 240 extra days. If you're able to invest that at a conservative rate, you're sitting pretty in Del Boca Vista come retirement time.

I'm disappointed they handed out the same piece of paper to us.
It's actually not like risking anything at all. The officiating was awful, one-sided and the Big10 isn't even looking into it. And not just that crew. The crew that officiated the Penn State-MSU game is much worse on a regular basis.

Are you seriously arguing that you see no problems with fans refereeing games involving teams they're life-long fans of? You don't think other teams would have a valid complaint if every game at Michigan Stadium was officiated by an Ann Arbor crew?
 

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I don't have any finger puppets for you. Just words. Both coaches threw headsets. Neither coach threw their scripts on the field. Harbaugh threw his script toward his bench. Harbaugh was penalized because the adjacent ref was also a basketball coach. Urban Meyer wasn't penalized (nor was OSU penalized for much of anything, but that's familiar ground).

I'm looking forward to you next post. It will go like this:

1. Pretend to misunderstand a previous poster or my post
2. Gloss over facts - especially if they reflect poorly on your school and its #31 ranked medical school.
3. OSU fucking rules/UM sucks
4. Michigan fans are childish and they should feel bad.
5. Insult the poster.

Carry on...
Harbaugh's playsheet ended up on the field. Sorry you missed that. It had nothing to do with the guy being a basketball coach, it is a football penalty. The Harbaugh headset throw and the Meyer headset throw were not even close to being similar. Plus, the headset penalty took an almost certain touchdown and turned it into a marginally higher certainty. You're boring.

Ahhh...the "writing a nonsensical" script meme of internet response. Man are you definitely not doing the things everyone is saying you are doing when you do that! I almost regret not having UM as a safety school to my safety schools when I applied to college.
 

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It's actually not like risking anything at all. The officiating was awful, one-sided and the Big10 isn't even looking into it. And not just that crew. The crew that officiated the Penn State-MSU game is much worse on a regular basis.

Are you seriously arguing that you see no problems with fans refereeing games involving teams they're life-long fans of? You don't think other teams would have a valid complaint if every game at Michigan Stadium was officiated by an Ann Arbor crew?
It's hard to believe that this guy was deleted under another name and had to come back with this one. He really makes you think.
 

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Harbaugh's playsheet ended up on the field. Sorry you missed that. It had nothing to do with the guy being a basketball coach, it is a football penalty. The Harbaugh headset throw and the Meyer headset throw were not even close to being similar. Plus, the headset penalty took an almost certain touchdown and turned it into a marginally higher certainty. You're boring.

Ahhh...the "writing a nonsensical" script meme of internet response. Man are you definitely not doing the things everyone is saying you are doing when you do that! I almost regret not having UM as a safety school to my safety schools when I applied to college.
You skipped #2..
 

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Harbaugh's playsheet ended up on the field. Sorry you missed that. It had nothing to do with the guy being a basketball coach, it is a football penalty. The Harbaugh headset throw and the Meyer headset throw were not even close to being similar. Plus, the headset penalty took an almost certain touchdown and turned it into a marginally higher certainty. You're boring.

Ahhh...the "writing a nonsensical" script meme of internet response. Man are you definitely not doing the things everyone is saying you are doing when you do that! I almost regret not having UM as a safety school to my safety schools when I applied to college.
And you followed my script. Intentional? I'm gonna say 'no.' You're not that clever.

Let me know when you see his play sheet actually fly out to the field of play:


 

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I thought only UM football lived in the past? That was a go-to for you guys whenever we reminded you of our win% against MSU and, well, everyone else.
Living in the recent past, as in the last decade seems sensible, considering it's pretty damn current. Claiming all these national championships when you have only one split national championship since 1948 is silly. Bragging about 900 wins when you are including wins 100 years ago against freaking high schools is absurd.
 

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Five fewer penalties doesn't seem like that big of a deal. At all. I'm sure with ten minutes I could find a bunch of instances of teams getting 5 more or fewer penalties than their average in any given game.
I agree. By itself, five fewer penalties isn't that special. Combined with at least two obvious DPIs, a "technical foul," a goofy game-changing spot and the fact that the three key officials are OSU fans (one of whom was previously fired for incompetence), the five fewer penalties is supporting evidence.

Look at it this way: if Michigan fans were bitching about biased officiating and instead of 2/6 in penalties, Ohio had been called for 7/50 (their season average) wouldn't you consider that evidence that there was NO bias?
 

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And you followed my script. Intentional? I'm gonna say 'no.' You're not that clever.

Let me know when you see his play sheet actually fly out to the field of play:
Um the announcers said it went into the middle of the field.

UM fans keep looking worse by the post here.
 

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I agree. By itself, five fewer penalties isn't that special. Combined with at least two obvious DPIs, a "technical foul," a goofy game-changing spot and the fact that the three key officials are OSU fans (one of whom was previously fired for incompetence), the five fewer penalties is supporting evidence.

Look at it this way: if Michigan fans were bitching about biased officiating and instead of 2/6 in penalties, Ohio had been called for 7/50 (their season average) wouldn't you consider that evidence that there was NO bias?
No, because I watch football regularly and I know that in any given game, both teams will have 4-5 calls or non-calls to complain about at minimum.
 

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Living in the recent past, as in the last decade seems sensible, considering it's pretty damn current. Claiming all these national championships when you have only one split national championship since 1948 is silly. Bragging about 900 wins when you are including wins 100 years ago against freaking high schools is absurd.
Good argument. I appreciate that notion that many State fans believe football was invented in 2010. But MSU has been playing football for almost as long as UM. Would you feel more comfortable if we just limited our discussion to UM's record against MSU?
 

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It's hard to believe that this guy was deleted under another name and had to come back with this one. He really makes you think.
I've never posted under any other name here.

Why don't you address the points I make in people's posts instead of name-calling and dick-wagging? I know you can do it. I've seen you do it once or twice.
 

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Watch the video. I wasn't listening to the announcers. Herbstreit probably said a lot of things.
I did. Harbaugh is spinning as he tosses it. Who knows where it went.

"It landed right in the middle of the field he threw it so far"

Do you think the announcers are flat out lying? Is this another conspiracy against UM?
 

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No, because I watch football regularly and I know that in any given game, both teams will have 4-5 calls or non-calls to complain about at minimum.
Exactly. Except in this case, for some reason, Michigan fans aren't supposed to complain about them, even the obviously bad ones in OT that determined the game's outcome.

What calls or non-calls does Ohio have to beef about?