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Beltran to the Yankees - 3 year deal


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#1 Kramerica Industries

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:49 PM

BREAKING: Source says Yankees and Carlos Beltran have agreed to a three-year deal. More details to come.

 

 

https://twitter.com/...151635265683456



#2 AlNipper49


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:51 PM

I was just saying to my wife that I thought what the Yankees really needed was a 6th outfielder



#3 rembrat


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:53 PM

THIS IS THE BEST DAY



#4 LuckyBen

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:53 PM

What the hell are the Yankees doing? I'm sure Ichiro will love being a back up and four lh outfielders. There goes some of that pitching money.

#5 Kramerica Industries

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:54 PM

Beltran deal is $45 m over 3 yrs

 

 

https://twitter.com/...153060351389697



#6 steveluck7

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:54 PM

so it's either trade Gardner + for pitching or move Soriano back to 2b, right?



#7 Yaz4Ever


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:55 PM

Per Ken Rosenthal on Twitter

3 years / $45M

Edited by Yaz4Ever, 06 December 2013 - 09:56 PM.


#8 Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:55 PM

So now all they have to do is sign Choo and they're good to go.



#9 Joe D Reid

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:55 PM

I think this makes Wells the backup catcher.

#10 redsoxcentury

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:55 PM

They would have to move Gardner for some pitching, right? Otherwise this is not smart. Which is fine by me

#11 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:56 PM

It's not that difficult. Ellsbury in CF, Gardner in LF, Beltran in RF. Ichiro and Wells are on the bench, Soriano is the primary DH. Gardner is gone next year, or moved in a trade.

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:56 PM

Oh my

#13 steveluck7

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:57 PM

 if they end up moving Gardner for pitching, they'll have to use some of their thin minor league talent. So, it's possible that the Yankees will have both stayed under 189 AND depleted a thin farm AND given up their top 2 draft picks



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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:58 PM

What type of pitching return would Gardner bring?  Anything better than Phelps?



#15 E5 Yaz


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 09:58 PM

LF-Wells

LCF-Gardner

CF-Ellesbury

RCF-Ichiro

RF-Beltran



#16 Savin Hillbilly


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:00 PM

I think this makes Wells the backup catcher.

 

And Ichiro the utility infielder!

 

Seriously, the theory that Cashman is daring the top brass to fire him just gets more and more plausible.



#17 LuckyBen

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:00 PM

LF-Wells
LCF-Gardner
CF-Ellesbury
RCF-Ichiro
RF-Beltran


Some does have to cut off Ellsbury to the infield.

#18 rembrat


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:00 PM

What type of pitching return would Gardner bring?  Anything better than Phelps?

 

A #4 with a contract? He would have to be paired up with a young, cost controlled stud to bring back anything of significance. Gardner + Robertson + something, anything in the farm could do it.



#19 hbk72777

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:01 PM

Well, 3 years is much better than 10.

 

And he can actually hit in the playoffs



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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:01 PM

LF-Wells

LCF-Gardner

CF-Ellesbury

RCF-Ichiro

RF-Beltran

5 outfield spots and still no room for Soriano



#21 steveluck7

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:01 PM

Some does have to cut off Ellsbury to the infield.

They should sign Manny in that case. he's great at that



#22 MakMan44


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:01 PM

What is Wells owed by the Yankees next year? Can't they just release him?



#23 rembrat


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:01 PM

 

And Ichiro the utility infielder!

 

Seriously, the theory that Cashman is daring the top brass to fire him just gets more and more plausible.

 

I think Cashman has yet to sign a player this off-season. Perhaps Kuroda. Everything else reeks of Levine.



#24 JimBoSox9


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:02 PM

What happened to Soriano?



#25 Chuck Z

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:02 PM

LF-Wells

LCF-Gardner

CF-Ellesbury

RCF-Ichiro

RF-Beltran

 

This is one approach to no longer having infielders capable of actually fielding.



#26 knucklecup


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:02 PM

Are they really considering Soriano for second base?

#27 Hoplite

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:03 PM

Awesome. I've been hoping all off-season that the Yankees would sign Beltran. In my opinion, he's one of the worst uses of their money. And he got three years to boot!

 

At this point, I think the Yankees realize that they aren't going to compete without Cano and Tanaka, so they're just signing the biggest name players possible to try to sell tickets.



#28 hbk72777

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:03 PM

5 outfield spots and still no room for Soriano

 

 

It's only December 6.

 

And Cashman usually comes up with 1 surprise trade per year



#29 Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:03 PM

 

A #4 with a contract? He would have to be paired up with a young, cost controlled stud to bring back anything of significance. Gardner + Robertson + something, anything in the farm could do it.

How can they trade Robertson though?  Isn't he the heir apparent?



#30 NYCSox


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:03 PM

I thought he wanted to win a WS before retiring?



#31 Rough Carrigan


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:04 PM

So . . the yankees didn't want to pay for Cano's age 38, 39 and 40 seasons.  Okay.  That makes sense.  But they just paid for Carlos Beltran's age 37, 38 and 39 seasons.



#32 luckiestman

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:04 PM

So ...hmm.. Soriano is going to play 2nd base again :astonished:



#33 LuckyBen

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:04 PM

Well, 3 years is much better than 10.

And he can actually hit in the playoffs


Assuming they make it there...

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:04 PM

LF-Wells

LCF-Gardner

CF-Ellesbury

RCF-Ichiro

RF-Beltran

 

Don't forget Soriano at Rover.



#35 rembrat


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:04 PM

How can they trade Robertson though?  Isn't he the heir apparent?

 

Right it's tough but that rotation is fucking awful. 

 

EDIT: And, Robertson is the ONLY thing they have. If Cashman calls me for anything all talks involve Robertson.


Edited by rembrat, 06 December 2013 - 10:05 PM.


#36 Bob Montgomery's Helmet Hat


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:05 PM

Are they really considering Soriano for second base?

I hope so but seriously doubt it.  He sucked there back when he had some mobility.



#37 hbk72777

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:05 PM

Awesome. I've been hoping all off-season that the Yankees would sign Beltran. In my opinion, he's one of the worst uses of their money. And he got three years to boot!

 

At this point, I think the Yankees realize that they aren't going to compete without Cano and Tanaka, so they're just signing the biggest name players possible to try to sell tickets.

 

 

That's what Michael Kay said on MLB Network yesterday. Their ratings were horrible last year, even when they were winning in the first half.

 

Besides, Beltran can hit in the playoffs if they make it. How many years could they go with a silent post season offense?



#38 Clears Cleaver


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:05 PM

Who is the youngest Yankee position player? Ellsbury?

The Yankees have devolved into the 70s-80s Red Sox. No pitching. Park dominated lineup. Old. No farm system. Interesting.

#39 Savin Hillbilly


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:06 PM

What is Wells owed by the Yankees next year? Can't they just release him?

 

If they do, doesn't his salary still count for luxury tax purposes?



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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:06 PM

Merging two Beltran-to-the-Yankees threads...

 

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Ellsbury-Beltran-Soriano? So Gardner, Ichiro and Wells are all in the rearview mirror now?



#41 bosox1025

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:06 PM

The Yankees don't seem to realize that no matter how strong their offense is next year, they don't stand a chance unless they upgrade that dogshit rotation + bullpen.

#42 Hoplite

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:07 PM

 

 

That's what Michael Kay said on MLB Network yesterday. Their ratings were horrible last year, even when they were winning in the first half.

 

Besides, Beltran can hit in the playoffs if they make it. How many years could they go with a silent post season offense?

 

Yeah, I'm sure they'll spin this as Beltran being able to help them in the playoffs.



#43 CGSO

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:07 PM

Why is everyone happy about this? Beltran is a really good player.



#44 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:08 PM

LF-Wells
LCF-Gardner
CF-Ellesbury
RCF-Ichiro
RF-Beltran


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#45 snowmanny

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:08 PM

After Beltran collides with Ellsbury they will be glad they have Wells and Ichiro.

#46 rembrat


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:09 PM

Why is everyone happy about this? Beltran is a really good player.

 

Because the Yankees addressed a need they didn't have. They burned $15MM and the bullpen and rotation is still god awful.



#47 Yaz4Ever


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:09 PM

Sprowl, out of those guys I'd say Gardner has the most trade value and is moved to fill another void - most notably SP.



#48 crow216


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:10 PM

Is the strategy right now to sign every player except Cano? So baffled. JA has it right, they're looking to sell tickets. Who cares if they create a few logjams in the process.



#49 Hoplite

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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:10 PM

 

If they do, doesn't his salary still count for luxury tax purposes?

 

Wells' salary currently lowers their luxury tax calculations by $12 million. The Angels are paying roughly $18 million of his salary and the Yankees are paying roughly $6 million.



#50 ifmanis5


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Posted 06 December 2013 - 10:10 PM

With all the balls ARod, Jeter and Soriano can't get to, those extra outfielders will come in handy.






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