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[SeoulSoxFan]

Just not their night tonight. Too many mistakes, too much bad luck, too much Flacco.

Regretfully, we end the 2012-2013 campaign with a Goat thread. Here we go.

* Talib: you can't fault the guy for getting hurt, but this was an early turning point
* Coaching: it seemed like they threw when they had to run, ran when they had to throw
* Welker: another killer drop, results in a 21-0 run
* Brady: he's the QB. Only getting 13 points for the game and getting shut out in 2nd half means #12 shares the blame

In reality, pretty much whole team laid an egg, including Hernandez who traded a few more yards and not getting out bounds.

Back to square one for the Pats, and hope SF rips Pollard a new asshole and kill the Ravens in the SB.

[SMU_Sox]

You posted this with time left? I get that the Pats are probably not coming back but come on.

[KingPK]

#12 #83 and the dude in the hoodie.

[Wilco's Last Fan]

Another goat— Defensive line.

[mpx42]

Just not executing. At all. Missing opportunity after opportunity for big plays. Unable to stop the pass once the Ravens started throwing on every down.

[soxhop411]

I cant be the only one who thinks this game turns out differently had Talib played the whole game.. Seems like once he got injured our D turned back to shit


Also seems like the whole team shit the bed. Hard to pin it on just a few players

Edited by soxhop411, 20 January 2013 - 09:48 PM.

[SeoulSoxFan]

You posted this with time left? I get that the Pats are probably not coming back but come on.

We all have different ways to deal with the pain.

[luqin]

Welker dropping the 3rd down pass and then Arrington almost immediately dropping the interception, that sequence completely changed the outcome of the game.

[normstalls]

Brady didn't get it done. Very disappointing

[Mystic Merlin]

I actually thought this game was out if Brady's hands in many ways. Welkers drop was big, but, more importantly, the lines were AWFUL.

[EddieYost]

Talib injury changed the game.

[Seels]

I'm really sick of this routine where a 500+ point offense routinely has key drops and turnovers in the playoffs. It happened in 2007 2010 2011 and now this year. Every year. Honestly I love Welker but I'm okay to see him go if it's not a below market level deal. Dude gets more dropsies every single year. I feel like Gronk is the only one who isn't prone to a lot of dropped/missed balls.

You could even see it on one of the last drives -- Brady throws to Vereen who drops a pretty easy throw, and on 3rd and 4 or whatever it was an open Vereen doesn't see the ball come his way. This has impacted Brady for a few years, he won't throw to receivers that can't prove they can secure the ball. Fuck.

[Captaincoop]

* Coaching: it seemed like they threw when they had to run, ran when they had to throw

Punted when only Tom O'Brien or a brain-damaged wussy would punt.

Carry on.

[SeoulSoxFan]

I actually thought this game was out if Brady's hands in many ways. Welkers drop was big, but, more importantly, the lines were AWFUL.

In all, you can't blame the OL much.

You gotta think Ravens' veteran play is kryptonite to the Pats no-huddle offense. If anything, the DL generated practically no rush all game. Once they controlled Wilfork, no one else stepped up.

When you have Cole vs Boldin, it's a domino effect down the spiral.

Just sad that Pats couldn't go into this game with a healthy Gronk and Talib, but it's not like Ravens were full strength either.

[normstalls]

The game was lost in the first half. Dominated field position and time of possession and go into half with only a 6 point lead.

[Ed Hillel]

* Welker: another killer drop, results in a 21-0 run

I guess this was to be expected here after such a loss, but whatever. They just basically got dominated everywhere tonight. Welker and Ridley are about the only two people I would point out as not having shitty games. It's just a bad matchup, I guess.

One thing. Please, PLEASE sign Talib, then go out and sign a fucking safety worth a damn to replace Gregory.

[Rico Guapo]

Coaching
Welker for the drops
Front 7 for getting no pressure

[Ralphwiggum]

420 total yards. 13 points.

Coaching. I love Belichick but he got his ass handed to him tonight.

[Dan to Theo to Ben]

Belichick
Brady
Welker
DL
DB's
Patricia
McDaniels
Mankins
Solder
the stretching coordinator

[SeoulSoxFan]

The e-z lob-dropped pass to Hernandez with about 30 yards of open space in first half also hurts.

Who would have thought Brady would only throw 1 TD the whole game?

[Ralphwiggum]

I mean, this team is not built to win a field position game. Punts in the first half were chicken shit.

[Van Everyman]

Talib's quad

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

I actually thought this game was out if Brady's hands in many ways. Welkers drop was big, but, more importantly, the lines were AWFUL.

Dude, give me a fucking break. The Patriots offensive line was fantastic tonight. I don't know what game you were watching, but if you thought the Patriots line was awful, then it wasn't this game.

Tom Brady struggles against the Ravens, the Patriots can only win when Brady is magnificent.

He played poorly tonight. His throws were OK but his decisions were poor. Running the hurry up in the 1st on 3rd and 2 and trying to force a run hoping the D wasn't ready was stupid. Burning 20 seconds at the end of the second quarter was stupid. His decision making was questionable, and it completely opens up the door to question his ability in the big games going forward. I always defended Brady. Hell, even after the safety in the Superbowl I ignored it. It can't be ignored anymore. Patriots fans can't say shit about Peyton Manning until Brady proves he can step the fuck up.

Oh yeah, McDaniels is a dick and so is Belichick.

[SoxScout]

That 1st quarter was heinous. The time management sucked the same way at least 3 other times this season. Truly horrific, I thought that was Earnie Adams' sole purpose? Gregory is embarrassing. Welker dropped a 3rd down pass that hit his numbers. DL did nothing at all, Ravens ran fine, Flacco got to statue in the pocket.

[mwonow]

I mean, this team is not built to win a field position game. Punts in the first half were chicken shit.

+1. If you don't play with courage, it shows on both sides of the ball

[lexrageorge]

It's games like this that D has to step up; a Gronk-less offense can't carry the team every week. But the defense forgot to come out of the locker room in the 2nd half. The Pats Front 7 has gotten younger and better from a couple of years ago, but still nowhere close to championship caliber. Same applies to the secondary.

Too many key drops and miscues by the offense; not all of this needs to be credited to the Ravens D, either. The Pats were able to move the ball when they weren't dropping it. The execution made the play calling look worse than it really was.

[SeoulSoxFan]

I guess this was to be expected here after such a loss, but whatever. They just basically got dominated everywhere tonight. Welker and Ridley are about the only two people I would point out as not having shitty games. It's just a bad matchup, I guess.

One thing. Please, PLEASE sign Talib, then go out and sign a fucking safety worth a damn to replace Gregory.

Frankly drops happen and Welker made some tough catches as usual.

Welker mention is more of a wish that he had held on to the easy throw. Still 100% hope #83 returns in a 2 year deal.

[ifmanis5]

Overall attitude. They played and coached like pussies. What team showed up today? Bizarrely terrible.

[Mystic Merlin]

Dude, give me a fucking break. The Patriots offensive line was fantastic tonight. I don't know what game you were watching, but if you thought the Patriots line was awful, then it wasn't this game.

Tom Brady struggles against the Ravens, the Patriots can only win when Brady is magnificent.

He played poorly tonight. His throws were OK but his decisions were poor. Running the hurry up in the 1st on 3rd and 2 and trying to force a run hoping the D wasn't ready was stupid. Burning 20 seconds at the end of the second quarter was stupid. His decision making was questionable, and it completely opens up the door to question his ability in the big games going forward. I always defended Brady. Hell, even after the safety in the Superbowl I ignored it. It can't be ignored anymore. Patriots fans can't say shit about Peyton Manning until Brady proves he can step the fuck up.

Oh yeah, McDaniels is a dick and so is Belichick.

My initial reaction was that they got beat all over the field - well BEAT UP is more like it - and that Tom was neither good nor bad. I don't know, by the late third, I thought BAL had complete control - we weren't fooling them, and the abuse on the receivers accumulated. The tipped balls sucked, too.

[SeoulSoxFan]

This must have been the best Jets fans have felt all year.

[scotian1]

Brady didn't get it done. Very disappointing

It wasn't Welker's drop that changed things around although it certainly added to it. It was the total mismanagement of the clock prior to the first half ending that in my opinion set up the second half.

[Captaincoop]

Frankly drops happen and Welker made some tough catches as usual.

Welker mention is more of a wish that he had held on to the easy throw. Still 100% hope #83 returns in a 2 year deal.

He also got hit with a vicious, headhunting cheapshot minutes earlier. I'm giving him a pass.

[Paradigm]

This team shows no fight. No spunk. Brady is one of the most competitive players in sports, but man, this team is just flat. No spark, no energy, no chip on their shoulder. This team has no trouble beating up on Buffalo and Jacksonville and other teams like Houston every year, and I know they've been the most successful team in football in recent years, but they're just not tough.

Baltimore is a vile, disgusting team. They are cheap, chippy, and violent. But they have an attitude, and you are fucking fooling yourself if you think that doesn't matter -- in any sport.

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

They never showed the replay of the solder holding call on the third down they converted. Does anyone remember it? Did he have to grab a guy after getting beat or was it stupid?

[JMDurron]

1) The defensive line. The only common thread between before Talib's injury and after it was the complete lack of pressure on Flacco. That went from dangerous to deadly once Talib went down
2) Brady. Picked the wrong receivers many times, got unlucky with batted balls, but the time management in the red zone to end the first half was completely inexcusable. Call the timeout, take one shot at the end zone, THEN kick the FG.
3) The secondary. It was the 2011 secondary out there, regular season version.

The only game balls I would give out in a loss would be to the offensive line. Pass blocking in particular was pretty stellar, Brady had a ridiculous amount of time for the entire 1st half, and most of the 3rd quarter. They only got more hits on him once it was "throw every down or die" late in the game.

[Turrable]

Shit happens

Go Bruins

[Mystic Merlin]

This team shows no fight. No spunk. Brady is one of the most competitive players in sports, but man, this team is just flat. No spark, no energy, no chip on their shoulder. This team has no trouble beating up on Buffalo and Jacksonville and other teams like Houston every year, and I know they've been the most successful team in football in recent years, but they're just not tough.

Baltimore is a vile, disgusting team. They are cheap, chippy, and violent. But they have an attitude, and you are fucking fooling yourself if you think that doesn't matter -- in any sport.

I think they've displayed a lot of fight this season - remember the SF game? They got flat-out beat by Baltimore tonight.

[SoxScout]

The only game balls I would give out in a loss would be to the offensive line. Pass blocking in particular was pretty stellar, Brady had a ridiculous amount of time for the entire 1st half, and most of the 3rd quarter. They only got more hits on him once it was "throw every down or die" late in the game.

Mesko

[Paradigm]

I'm really not blaming this on anyone. I thought Welker played a fine game. I can't single a particular defensive player out. They just didn't play with the same verve as the Ravens.

It's like, how did the Orioles make the playoffs last year despite every statistical indicator saying that they shouldn't have? How does Butler make the Final Four every year? Baltimore showed more in this game.

[PedrosRedGlove]

What KFP said, I've been a stubborn Brady defender, but Holy Fucking Shit, how has he developed such a knack of going completely brain dead at really crucial moments. Trying to rush to the line to squeeze one more play in with 20 seconds left in the half, when you should only need one play to score in the first place was moronic. Then deciding to chuck it aimlessly down the field when he had a first down right in front of him on the ground was the icing on the cake.

Unbelievable. Can't put it any other way.

Game Ball to Belichick for the press conference he's giving right now, an amazing mix of being on the verge of tears, while still glaring at the reporters like they slept with his wife.

[Ed Hillel]

Mesko

I'm pretty sure any of us could have pinned the Ravens inside their twenty on four of five of those punts.

Not that he was bad, he's been a damned good kicker, but I wouldn't point him out tonight.

[tims4wins]

They never showed the replay of the solder holding call on the third down they converted. Does anyone remember it? Did he have to grab a guy after getting beat or was it stupid?

Pretty sure it was only a 3 man rush. I remember being stunned there was a flag on the field.

Also, not to blame the refs, but did anyone else think they should have flagged Torrey Smith for offensive PI on the Ravens 2nd td drive?

[patinorange]

Mesko

He was great and the field position game was probably the only battle they won.

[Paradigm]

I think they've displayed a lot of fight this season - remember the SF game? They got flat-out beat by Baltimore tonight.

I was going to mention that -- I thought that was the only time they've shown that kind of fight. I know this team hasn't played from behind very much, and hasn't been sufficiently challenged by most teams, and maybe that's hurting them. This team struggles against adversity. With their backs against the wall, that game being the one exception, admit it: you lose confidence at that point.

[Paradigm]

What KFP said, I've been a stubborn Brady defender, but Holy Fucking Shit, how has he developed such a knack of going completely brain dead at really crucial moments. Trying to rush to the line to squeeze one more play in with 20 seconds left in the half, when you should only need one play to score in the first place was moronic.

This was a killer.

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

It's games like this that D has to step up; a Gronk-less offense can't carry the team every week. But the defense forgot to come out of the locker room in the 2nd half. The Pats Front 7 has gotten younger and better from a couple of years ago, but still nowhere close to championship caliber. Same applies to the secondary.

Too many key drops and miscues by the offense; not all of this needs to be credited to the Ravens D, either. The Pats were able to move the ball when they weren't dropping it. The execution made the play calling look worse than it really was.

they didn't forget to come out in the second half. Baltimore realized that Talib was hurt and finally decided to capitalize on it. The second Talib came up lame, I pronounced that the game was over (along with a million other Patriots fans). We saw how the secondary played without him at the end of the year. Hes clearly a linchpin back there. Hope they resign him.

[Sportsbstn]

Just leaving the game. Brady was awful, he missed so many throws. The defense turning point was definitely talib getting hurt, you could see it coming. Wind was a factor, but Brady really stunk it up last year vs Baltimore as well. Still elite but the good defenses make him look less than great.

[SeoulSoxFan]

I thought throws to RBs would have been perfect against the Ravens RB corp. Vereen had a silly drop late, but Woodhead were open more than a couple of times on 3rd-and-short, where Pats couldn't convert.

And even if they get stuffed, I'd wish they'd just toss right a couple of times taking advantage of Solder & Wendell. It seemed Ravens keyed on a short pass on every 3rd down, no matter the distance.

So yeah, McD can eat a big one this game.

[Mystic Merlin]

Losing Talib was a big problem, in the red zone in particular. Their other DB cannot deal with Boldin.

[Sportsbstn]

Btw, how the pats botched the final 15
Seconds of the first half was very poor. Call the timeout, it's not hard.

Edited by Sportsbstn, 20 January 2013 - 10:13 PM.