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2013 Penn State Football - Surviving the "Trouble Years"


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#1 SoxJox

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Posted 11 January 2013 - 03:04 PM

Penn State 2013

Following sachsmoney’s lead for Michigan…and hoping that there is a sizeable Penn State fan base among the membership, let’s turn our attention to the Nittany Lions.

I haven’t attempted this kind of write up before, so please be gentle…

As an introductory comment, I will say that it is highly unlikely that Penn State will enjoy its traditional level of success. The following assessment is intended to consider how likely it is that Penn State can still compete at a relatively high level, subjectively defined as better that .500: 7-5, 8-4, perhaps even 9-3 seasons over the next few years.

Here are the considerations:

1. NCAA Sanctions (found here: http://www.ncaa.com/...ate-conclusions):

Entering the second of four years of sanctions (I’ll disregard for the moment the arguments being bandied about in the menstrual stream media and on the Al Gore-machine regarding PA Governor Tom Corbett’s lawsuit vs. the NCAA (filing found here: http://i.usatoday.ne...caa-lawsuit.pdf), and its potential success or failure in attempting to roll back the sanctions).

· Penn State is entering its first year in which the initial-award scholarship limit will be capped at 15 (vs. normal 25). I would point out as well an area of confusion on many folks’ part: the 65 scholarship limit does not kick in until commencement of the 2014-2015 academic year, and it runs through the 2017-2016 academic year. It did not start concurrently with the 15 initial-award scholarship limit that commences for the 2013-2014 academic year. If you do the math, once the sanctions have run their course, Penn State will not regain a full 85-scholarship roster until 2019 at the earliest, and perhaps 2020 (I can share a spreadsheet if anyone wants to see the data).

· In my mind, the question is whether Penn State can either 1) make do with the legitimate 3- to 5-star recruits that it can attract within this limit; 2) attract some [handful] of lesser-star recruits who are willing to suck it up and attend Penn State as a non-scholarship student-athlete despite the sanctions; 3) a combination of 1) and 2); or 4) a bizarre and unpredictable mixture of infinite possibilities. I assume that Penn State will retain a roster somewhere close to its current number of 110 (making the balance up with walk-ons). Is it possible that somewhere in those non-scholarship “run-ons”, as BO’B so affectionately has dubbed them, there is a sufficient number of quality athletes to permit Penn State to at least tread water or remain quasi-competitive throughout the “Trouble Years”? Someone like Deon Butler comes to mind. So far, five prospects have announced their intentions to run on at Penn State: Central Mountain HS (PA) athlete Von Walker, State College HS (PA) DL Evan Galimberti, Hyannis Barnstable HS (MA) QB D.J. Crook, Salisbury School (CT) QB Austin Whipple, and Toms River HS (NJ), and PK/PP Chris Gulla (more on the latter three below).

· It is interesting that despite the sanctions, to date there have been at least two players – Johnson HS (MD) running back Richy Anderson and Hazel Green HS (AL) defensive lineman Parker Cothren – who have actually decommitted from Maryland and Purdue, respectively, to play for Penn State starting in 2013.

2. The Coaching Staff

· With limited data, BO’B appears to be a legitimate college football coach. He seems to have pushed most of the right buttons in recruiting, staff organization and management, player development and mentorship, on-field management and in-game decision making, off-field press and media relations, and – a key – gaining the confidence of the administration. NFL flirting and open courtships notwithstanding, and recognizing that they may become an annual end-of-season rite or kabuki dance, creating in its wake the constant effects of friction and speculation, BO’B seems to have successfully maneuvered through the inaugural season’s minefield.

· BO’B has assuaged many fears with his assurances that he is committed to Penn State. This certainly has had and will continue to have a positive effect in the recruiting arena – especially for the blue chippers who are verbally committed to become members of the recruiting class of 2013. National Letter of Intent signing day for them is February 1.

· Regarding the recent departure of Defensive Coordinator Ted Roof, most folks in the know seem to consider this as no real loss. Many have expressed disappointment that Larry Johnson or Ron Vanderlinden (the two holdouts from the Paterno era) were not promoted over John Butler. But from all accounts, Butler has earned the admiration of fellow coaches and is respected and well-liked by the players. And there is the possibility that LJ’s and RVL’s legacy association with the previous regime likely could have been considered a detrimental PR weight that held them back). In any case, I believe most Penn State fans do not consider Roof’s departure a big loss, because they feel Roof really isn’t that great of a DC. All you need to do is look back at Tom Bradley, who had the Lions in the top 5 defensive teams in the country in 2011, while Roof guided the team to a 16th place finish in 2012). Roof’s departure does raise at least one concern/question: does it portend other staff defections? Did some coaches come to Penn State to enjoy the fruits that might accrue to them through their association with a former NFL coach? Is the petal now off that rose?

· One subtle but very important consideration is the improved strength and conditioning program put in place this past year by new S&C coach Craig Fitzgerald. Look for the fruits of his labor to continue growing and providing payoffs, especially in the area of reduced injuries, which Penn State can ill-afford in the scholarship limited period.

3. Key Losses from 2012: Penn State lost 23 players due to graduation or expiration of eligibility at the end of the 2012 season. While Penn State loses many outstanding starters – Gerald Hodges, Michael Mauti, Jordan Hill, and yes, even Matt McGloin, a sound central cadre of talent remains.

4. The Team Going Forward/Remaining Roster at Conclusion of 2012 Season:

· An assumption going forward is that there will be few, if any, additional transfers. There have been two departures to date: Curtis Dukes and Brennan Franklin, neither of whom left to attend other schools (at least for the time being). Dukes was at one time considered a legitimate contender to become the next great Penn State tailback. But reports were that he couldn’t master BO’B’s offense, and struggled in audible-pass block and protection calls. And Brennan was a 3rd level backup, whose departure is unbelievably being reported at the national level as though it were something of significance. But it is important to note that players on the current roster can still transfer without penalty until the first day of fall practice this year, after which the “free” transfer period will expire completely and regular transfer rules will return. The feeding fenzy that ensued in the immediate wake of the sanctions last year likely won't be repeated, but there are reports of "poaching", most notably Auburn's attempt to entice Bayside Academy (AL) LB/RB Jonathan Walton to change his mind. Granted, Walton is from SEC territory, and SEC schools have become very protective of their territory, so the effort in his case should not come as a surprise

o One element that will be worth noting this year is who can rise to the challenge of holding the team together in the same way Mike Mauti and Mike Zordich did last year?

5. Non-professional evaluation of the returning team and some of the new recruits (note: all class references (i.e., Fr., So., Jr., Sr.) are for the upcoming season):

· Offense:

o Quarterbacks:

- Christian Hackenberg: 6’-4” 210#, from Fork Union Military Academy (VA). National #1-rated pro-style QB in the class of 2013, but he won’t enroll until August and thus will miss the spring training period. Some expect him to redshirt this year to gain experience.


- Stephen Bench: 6’3”, 210#, from Cairo (GA) HS. Dual-threat QB. Was lightly recruited due to an injury his senior year in HS, and committed late as non-scholarship 3-star recruit. Was placed on scholarship for the 2013 season, but does not count against the 2013 initial-award total. Saw very little playing time in 2012, but likely will enter the spring training period at the top of the depth chart, as he is the only QB remaining from the 2012 roster. However, most think JUCO transfer Tyler Ferguson (see below) will ultimately win an expectedly intense competition, but will need time to learn the playbook and adjust.


- Tyler Ferguson: 6’4”, 210#, from Bakersfield, CA. A 4-star recruit out of HS, and #2-rated JUCO QB at College of the Sequoias (behind Jake Waters of Western Iowa Community College, who previously narrowed his decision between Penn State and Kansas State before siding with the latter). 3 years of eligibility left. As a JUCO freshman, Ferguson completed 55.6 percent of his passes for 2,650 yards and 26 touchdowns with 12 interceptions.


- Austin Whipple (run-on): 6’2”, 200 #. Pro-style QB from Pine-Richland (PA) HS. Played a year post-graduation at The Salisbury School (CT). Salisbury numbers were 57.7% completion, 1,526 yards, 19 TDs (+ 3 rushing).


- D.J. Crook (run-on): 6’2”, 205 #. Pro-style QB from Hyannis Barnstable (MA) HS. Played a year post-graduation at Worcester Academy. The all-time leading passer in Massachusetts high school history with 8,126 yards and 77 touchdowns in 38 starts. Some of you guys and gals on here may be familiar with him.


o Running Backs:

- Returnees are Jr. Zach Zwinak (203 carries, 1,000 yards, and 6 TDS), Jr. Bill Belton (60-263-3), and Fr. Akeel Lynch*. Many are hoping that Bill Belton can grow into his obvious talent (there were reports of “focus” issues this past season), because Zach Zwinak, bless his heart (and thank you very much for the 1,000 yards in 2012) just isn’t the kind of runner you want standing atop your depth chart).


- Penn State is keeping their fingers crossed in their pursuit of David Williams from Imhotep Institute Cha (PA), a 4-star RB (nationally 7th rated RB and 134th overall prospect). Williams rushed for 1,904 yards and 23 touchdowns on 195 carries as a senior and was selected to play in the Semper Fidelis All-American Bowl in Carson, CA.


- There is also the possibility that all-purpose back Richy Anderson (verbal commit), from Johnson (MD) HS, who is being slotted as a receiver, could make the switch to provide depth.


o Wide Receivers:

- Returnees are Jr. Allen Robinson (the Big Ten's most productive receiver) with 77 catches, 1,013 yards, 11 TDs, Sr. Brandon Moseby-Felder (31-437-1), So. Trevor Williams (10-97-0), Jr. Alex Kenney (17-172-0), So. Matt Zanellato (2-19-0), So. Eugene Lewis*, Fr. Malik Golden*, Fr. Jonathan Warner*, So. Tyler Lucas* [*-redshirted]. The cat is out of the bag on Robinson and he likely will be targeted heavily by defenses in 2013. But Moseby-Felder offers a very attractive target as an alternative, and Golden looks very impressive as a slot receiver. Rising redshirt Fr. Lewis and rising So. Williams have shown significant potential and will provide depth. Plus, Penn State has loaded up at Tight End (see below), and we know how BO’B loves to use these big boys.


o Tight Ends:

- As the 2012 season progressed and defenses wrapped up Allen Robinson, tight ends played a much more prominent role, and in so doing allowed BO’B to expand the passing game to multiple threats (sound familiar?) Stepping up big was returnee Freshman All-American Kyle Carter (6’3”, 247#) (36-453-2) But lo, two other very talented TEs also blossomed: So. Jesse James (6’7”, 264#) (15-276-5) and Sr. Matt Lehman (6’6”, 258#) (24-296-3). These guys are in the Gronk-Hernandez mold: BIG and agile, capable of blocking and getting open over the middle, in the flat, or downfield.


- Enter into this talented pool one Adam Breneman, 6’4”, 224#, from Cedar Cliff HS (PA). Nationally #1-rated TE enrolled in January and does not count against the 2013 initial-award scholarship total for 2013.


o Offensive Line: Filling the holes left by NFL-bound studs Matt Stankiewitch and Mike Farrell will be a tall order, but Penn State is in good shape on the OL. Returnees include Sr. John Urshel (1st Team All-B1G, and 4.0 in celestial mathematic OBTW), Jr. Miles Dieffenbach, and So. Donovan Smith. Several underclassmen recorded significant playing time and gained considerable experience, so there is plenty of depth. If Zach Zwinak can gain 1,000 yards behind these guys they must be doing a pretty decent job. Pass protection is an area that needs work, although all of the QBs on the roster this year have better legs under them than did McGloin.

· Defense:

o Defensive Line:

- Considering the carousal created from various injuries, the Penn State DL held up very well and performed admirably in 2012. The rotation provided an unexpected opportunity for some underclassmen to gain valuable experience. NFL-bound Jordan Hill (Penn State’s “Vince Wilfork”) will be sorely missed, and other than Freshman All-American DE Deion Barnes, none of the returnees names likely strike fear in anyone’s mind, and graduation hit this area harder than any other on the team. Also other than Barnes, only one returnee – Sr. DaQuan Jones – had more than 20 tackles.


- A notable incoming recruit is 6’4” 230#, 4-star DE Garret Sickels, from Little River HS (NJ). Joining him is 6’5” 230#, 3-star DE Curtis Cothran (not to be confused with run-on Parker Cothren) from Council Rock North HS (NJ).


o Linebackers:

- The loss of Mike Mauti will be felt far and wide – not because he was that great of a player, but because of the leadership that he provided to the team. The experience and talent that Gerald Hodges will take with him to the NFL will also be felt. Seasoned returnees Sr. Glenn Carson and Jr. Mike Hull are the most likely prospects to step in and fill the void. No other returning linebackers saw significant playing time last year.


- Penn State has only one significant committed recruit – Brandon Bell, a 6’2”, 215# 3-star ILB from Oakcrest HS (NJ). Penn State continues to hold out hope for Zaid Issah, a 6’3”, 210# 3-star athlete (slotted for LB) from Central Dauphin HS (PA). Issah had previously committed to Penn State, but re-opened his recruitment. He reportedly has indicated he still places Penn State at #1 on his list, but wanted to hear about other potential offers.


o Secondary: Without doubt, the secondary is Penn State’s weak link. They seemed incapable of consistently preventing long third down completions last year, which kept the defense on the field much longer than it should have been. They lost their best DB – Stephon Morris – to graduation. And 2012 was the first year starting for both safeties (Sr. Stephen Obeng-Agyapong and Sr. Malcolm Willis), so both should be able to springboard from that experience. Even so, the other secondary players are themselves starting from where SO-A and MW did last year, so there may be some continuing growing pains in this area. Two incoming recruits – Jordan Smith (5’11”, 180#, from HD Woodson HS (DC)) and Anthony Smith (6’0”, 185#, from Valley Forge MA (PA)) – enroll in January and won’t count against the initial-award limit. The reps they get during the spring will be invaluable for a cornerback rotation that needs bodies.

· Special Teams:

o Placekicker:

- Despite his early season woes (encapsulated in an inauspicious 1-for-5 vs. Virginia), Sam Ficken proved himself to be a capable and consistent PK. Routinely producing touchbacks on kickoffs, there is no doubt he has the leg. But after missing 7 of his first 11 FG attempts, he finished with 10 straight, and capped off his season with a 3-for-3 performance against Wisconsin. His last won the game in OT.


- Penn State has added run-on kicker/punter Chris Gulla from Toms River North HS (NJ). Gulla was a 4-year starter in HS and made 17 of 22 attempts, including a game-winning 45 yarder. He averaged 42-yards per punt, 66-yards per kickoff, and produced 33 touchbacks.


o Punter: Jr. Alex Butterworth averaged a dismal 37.4 yards per try. Gulla certainly has a shot at displacing him.

6. Conclusion: With the above considered, it’s very hard to make predictions about Penn State’s record next year or for the next several years. Before the season began, last year’s team was viewed as lucky if they won 4 games, with some saying as few as 2. The end results certainly surprised most, including many die-hard Penn State fans. But last year’s team had an advantage of already possessing a sound core of players and, despite the menstrual stream media hype that swirled around them, was considered more capable by those with a more dispassionate and critical eye. So 8 wins should not have come as that much of a surprise. “That’s why they play the games,” as the saying goes. While it is true that this year’s team also has a sound residual core, it is a smaller one than last, and a similar erosion can be expected over the next few years except to the degree that BO’B and his staff can squeeze every last ounce of skill and talent from the recruits and returnees each year, if not take them beyond their current projections.

I will say 7-5 in 2013, followed by 6-6“ish” and 5-7“ish” seasons through 2017. It is possible they may squeeze in an 8 win or a wild-dream 9 win season somewhere along the way, but it is unlikely that they can get beyond that, unless the B1G continues its slide into collective mediocrity. In any case, in the event BO’B stays for the entirety of the “Trouble Years”, it will be very interesting to see what he can do with the potentially very talented QB and TE/WR cadre he and his staff have assembled.

The 2013 Schedule

Aug. 31 vs. Syracuse (at New Meadowlands Stadium; East Rutherford, N.J.)
Sept. 7 - EASTERN MICHIGAN
Sept. 14 - VIRGINIA
Sept. 21 - KENT STATE
Oct. 5 at Indiana
Oct. 12 - MICHIGAN
Oct. 26 at Ohio State
Nov. 2 - ILLINOIS
Nov. 9 at Minnesota
Nov. 16 - PURDUE
Nov. 23 - NEBRASKA
Nov. 30 at Wisconsin

Edited by SoxJox, 11 January 2013 - 05:43 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2013 - 07:55 PM

Issah re-committed in December, SoxJox. Like you wrote, he was a de-commit after the sanctions this summer then decided he wanted to attend after all when the season ended. Never can really tell until LOI day. August can't come soon enough for that team. Wartman is another young LB (last year's class) to consider.

Brent Wilkerson (RS FR in 2013) is another TE who could have made your list.

I think you underestimate Zwinak. He is serious north-south back who earns a lot of yards after contact. He certainly benefited from the strong OL, like you wrote. A healthy Belton would help.

I expect it's going to be a frustrating year to watch the QB position. If you would have told me four years ago that I'd miss the day McGloin's eligibility ran out, I would have laughed quite hardily.

Nice breakdown.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 06:25 AM

Issah re-committed in December.

Brent Wilkerson (RS FR in 2013) is another TE who could have made your list.

I think you underestimate Zwinak. He is serious north-south back who earns a lot of yards after contact.

I expect it's going to be a frustrating year to watch the QB position. If you would have told me four years ago that I'd miss the day McGloin's eligibility ran out, I would have laughed quite hardily.


I somehow missed the re-commit for Issah. Thanks for the pointer.

I've seen promising reports on Wilkerson. I think the only problem Penn State might have with the plethora of capable tght ends is getting enough playing time and touches for each.

Don't get me wrong. I love Zwinak's toughness. I read a stat somewhere (but couldn't immediately find it) that he led the B1G in yards after first contact, so you're spot on. I just think they need a bit more quickness and someone who can at least ocassionally break a long one. Zwinak is not that guy. Perhaps it's Belton, but who knows?

I think you're right about the QB position. BO'B may actually find himself routinely substituting one and then another in the early stages of the season until a leader emerges. I've watched a ton of video on Hackenburg and Ferguson, and a bit less of Bench, Whipple, and Crook. Ferguson looks like he can step in immediately. He looked every bit as good to me as Jake Waters in the passing game, although Waters was more of a dual threat QB who could tuck and get up field well.

Edited by SoxJox, 12 January 2013 - 06:27 AM.


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Posted 12 January 2013 - 11:27 AM

You'd have to think the Issah commitment is fairly solid now. I was curious how Roof's departure for Georgia Tech would impact him, but LJ recruited him. I guess you never know until LOI day. (On a side note, I don't know how the component of the sanctions that permits players to transfer through August 2013 impact incoming recruits. I know anyone else can transfer at any time.)

On the RBs, they really aren't that deep there, even if they're in a single-back set most of the time. You'd have to think they were disappointed to see Williams opt for SC over PSU, especially since he was an in-state recruit. Oh yeah - sorry to break it like that - he committed last weekend. I'd like to see an injury-free year of Belton. I believe BOB mentioned they hoped to see what he could do a pass-catcher this year. It makes sense since he's versatile (played QB in HS, slotted as WR when he arrived). Of course, there's Lynch like you wrote. Everything I've read recently suggests they're high on him.

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Posted 12 January 2013 - 02:36 PM

(On a side note, I don't know how the component of the sanctions that permits players to transfer through August 2013 impact incoming recruits. I know anyone else can transfer at any time.)


For recruits who sign on Feb 1, they can leave without Penalty the same way members of current team can - until the first day of fall practice, after which they are subject to regular transfer rules. The first day of fall practice completely ends the opportunity for all to transfer without penalty.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 12:55 PM

Penn State just got their 3rd walk-on QB: Jack Seymour, from Park Tudor School (IN). 6'3", 205#.  Coming off a senior season in which he threw for 1,670 yards and 17 touchdowns. He's a two-star prospect with offers from Ball State, Southern Illinois and Western Michigan.

 

http://www.pennlive....itment_fro.html

 

I know many poo poo 2-star recruits, but I think it's important to consider that he DIDN'T COST A SCHOLARSHIP. I would think most teams would LOVE to have a bunch of these types of guys.

 

There have been many successful walk-ons (for example, neither Michael Strahan, Terrell Owens, nor Tony Romo received any Division I-A looks

out of high school.  Even Logan Mankiins was a walk-on at Fresno State.) And there are MANY more highly-recruited 5- and 4-star recruits who either: 

 

1.    Never even completed their college career 
2.    Were a complete bust in college 
3.    Had decent college careers but certainly didn't live up their pre-college rating, or were less than worthy of the scholarship that proved to be wasted on them.  But hey, it's all a gamble, no?


Edited by SoxJox, 25 January 2013 - 12:56 PM.


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Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:01 PM

All Penn State commits have signed:

 

 

PENN STATE CLASS OF 2013

 


Profiles and news can be found here: http://www.pennlive....tball_2013.html


* ATH Richy Anderson (Frederick, Md.), Enrolled in Spring '13 classes.  Does not count against '13 scholarship limit of 15.

* LB Brandon Bell (Mays Landing, N.J.)

* [#1 National TE; 4-star] TE Adam Breneman (Camp Hill, Pa.): Enrolled in Spring '13 classes.  Does not count against '13 scholarship limit of 15.

* DE Curtis Cothran (Newtown, Pa.)

* OL Parker Cothren (Hazel Green, Ala.

* [#2 JUCO Transfer; 3-star as HS Sr] QB Tyler Ferguson (Visalia, Calif.), Enrolled in Spring '13 classes.  Does not count against '13 scholarship limit of 15.

* DB Kasey Gaines (Loganville, Ga.)

* [#1 National Pro-style; 5-star] QB Christian Hackenberg (Fork Union, Va.)

* [4-star] WR DaeSean Hamilton (Mountain View Va.)

* DE Tanner Hartman (Lynchburg, Va.)

* LB Zayd Issah (Harrisburg, Pa.)

* [4-star] OL Brendan Mahon (Randolph, N.J.

* [4-star] OL Andrew Nelson (Hershey, Pa.)

* DB Neiko Robinson (Century, Fla.)

* [4-star] DE Garrett Sickels (Little Silver, N.J.)

* DB Anthony Smith (Wayne, Pa.), Enrolled in Spring '13 classes.  Does not count against '13 scholarship limit of 15.

* DB Jordan Smith (Washington, D.C.), Enrolled in Spring '13 classes.  Does not count against '13 scholarship limit of 15.


Augmented by some significant “run-ons”:

 

 

* Brock Baranowski,ATH, Pine-Richland (Pittsburgh, Pa.)

* Cole Chiappialle , RB, Blackhawk (Beaver, Pa.)
Sean Corcoran, LS, Bishop McNamara (Bourbonnais, Ill.) 
DJ Crook, QB, Worchester Academy (Worchester, Mass.) **Most prolific passer in Massachusetts HS history
Tom Devenney, OL, Warwick (Lititz, Pa.) 
Austin Fiedler, OL, Warrior Run (Turbotville, Pa.)
Evan Galimberti, DT, State College (State College, Pa.)
Gregg Garrity, WR, North Allegheny (Wexford, Pa.)
Adam Geiger, ATH, Trinity (Camp Hill, Pa.)
Chris Geiss, ATH, Great Valley (Malvern, Pa.)
Chris Gulla, K/P, Toms River North (Toms River, N.J.) **This guy is likely a golden nugget
Carter Henderson, LB, Franklin Regional (Beaver Falls, Pa.) **This guy is likely a golden nugget
Tom Pancoast, DB, Unionville (Kennett Square, Pa.) 
Dad Poquie, DB, La Salle College (Wyndmoor, Pa.)
Kyle Searfoss, LB, Red Land (Lewisberry, Pa.)
Jack Seymour, [2-star] QB, Park Tudor (Indianapolis, In.)
Brandon Smith, LB, Lewisburg (Lewisburg, Pa.)

* [Late add] Andrew Terlingo, OL (Center Valley, PA)
Brian Tomasetti, RB, Old Forge (Scranton, Pa.)
Von Walker, RB, Central Mountain (Mill Hall, Pa.)
Austin Whipple, QB, Salisbury School (Salisbury, Conn.), has already enrolled

 

 

 

 

An interesting take on Outside the Lines: http://espn.go.com/b...su/post?id=6498

 

BO'B holds 3 scholarships in his pocket for future award, perhaps for some high-star having second thoughts about the school they initially wanted to go to, perhaps before the 1 April NLI deadline this year, perhaps later. In any case- before the 2014 NLI period.


Edited by SoxJox, 06 February 2013 - 07:13 PM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 10:43 AM

Penn State is looking to add a future non conference game in Ireland
http://www.fbschedul...ame-in-ireland/

Considering all the run-ons they are getting, IMHO they should have gone easier on the scholarship restrictions but banned Penn st from signing deals for new non-conf games. The run-ons are taking the brunt of the penalty, more than the school

Edited by Infield Infidel, 11 February 2013 - 10:52 AM.


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Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:56 PM

The run-ons are taking the brunt of the penalty, more than the school

 

While this possibly may be true, I'm not certain the case can be made without exception.

 

Nearly all Div 1A teams carry rosters ranging anywhere from 105-115 players (PSU's is projected at 105-108 by my calculation).  So even with a full complement of 85 scholarships there are anywhere from 20-30 walk-ons at ALL schools.  Now, the relative contribution of an individual walk-on vs. scholarship player generally is the less no matter what in MOST instances.  But the calculus contemplated by most walk-ons who might have had other options (e.g., accept a scholarship at a lesser Div 1A school, or accept a Div 2 offer) have instead made the decision to walk on at a more "visible" Div 1A program - perhaps even as a preferred walk-on, although this might be less likely as not.  They appear to have made a personal decision that I do not believe can necessarily mean that they can be viewed as carrying a greater or relatively heavier load than on any other team.  

 

Of course, with only 65 scholarships, PSU will be carrying ~40-50 "run-ons" for the time being.  I will grant that in absolute terms they are picking up a significant portion of the team's overall responsibilities, but it's just as likely that for the vast majority (but certainly not all) of these and any walk-on, that load will take the form of special teams and practice squads.  And they have made that choice.

 

I will add a caveat in Penn State's case this year: if you look closely at the crop of run-ons, as I've pointed out earlier, I believe they represent a subjectively higher quality group of players than would normally be expected to fill these slots. So I actually anticipate a greater percentage of these run-ons breaking through to contribute significantly to the overall team performance - more so than might otherwise be expected.

 

Maybe this actually supports your assertion In-In, but I'm not certain that I would characterize it pejoratively as the "brunt".


Edited by SoxJox, 12 February 2013 - 09:18 AM.


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Posted 18 February 2013 - 05:59 PM

Not directly related to PSU football, and am not sure how many are familiar with the annual dance marathon affectionately referred to as THON.


The annual event is now held the weekend of Presidents Day and is widely recognized as the most successful student-run philanthropic activity in the world.

This year's event generated a record $12.37M and brought the 40-year total to well in excess of $110M.

Its targeted charity is pediatric cancer patients, and its goal is to 1) support cancer research and treatment, and 2) relieve parents and guardian caretakers from the financial and emotional stress that comes concomitantly in dealing with pediatric cancer patients.

I had the great pleasure of participating in the inaugural event back in 1974, when the rules and objectives were very much different than today, and when no one in their wildest dreams could ever have imagined that the event would evolve into the generous and gracious beast it is today.  More recent events now take a full year to prepare for, and invoke the volunteer efforts of thousands who work tens of thousands of hours.


A short summary is here: http://thetimes-trib...2-37m-1.1446194  Please be sure to take a look at the very short video embedded in the story - the one where they raise the numbers announcing the year's total contributions.  Just look at that crowd, most of whom are present for the entire 48-hour event.

 

And a choreographed dance by members of the 2012 football team, and BO’B’s address to the crowd, is here: http://sports.yahoo....417--ncaaf.html

Say a prayer for the kids.  If you’re not religious, wish them remission and a return to good health.
 

Football culture my ass.


Edited by SoxJox, 19 February 2013 - 08:55 AM.


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Posted 02 April 2013 - 06:25 PM

I don't believe in curses but this is interesting nonetheless.



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:48 AM

I don't believe in curses but this is interesting nonetheless.

In hindsight, it doesn't appear that staying would have hurt their prospects were they NFL-caliber.  Looking at what Zwinak and Robinson produced, you'd have to think that Redd and Brown, respectively, at least thought about what would have happened had they stayed.  (Or maybe not.  The NFL isn't fooled by the outcomes of team success at the college level.  We know they're looking for a certain skill set that isn't dependant on program of choice.)  It could be that these transfers had other reasons for leaving and just used the freedom provided by the sanctions to take advantage of it. 

 

Robert Bolden's transfer was particularly confusing.  Whomever has been giving him career advice isn't being honest with him about his tool kit.



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Posted 14 April 2013 - 08:53 AM

Issah re-committed in December...

 

 

And decided along the way that paying for his Happy Meal would be best done with fake money:  http://www.pennlive...._nittany_l.html

 

Scholarship pulled (for now, according to BOB).
 



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Posted 24 April 2013 - 01:45 PM

Update on commits to date for Recruiting Class of 2014:

 


DeAndre ThompkinsSwansboro (Swansboro, NC), 4-star ATH

Chris GodwinMiddletown (Middletown, DE), 4 star WR

Troy ApkeMt. Lebanon (Pittsburgh, PA), 3-star WR

Nick ScottFairfax (Fairfax, VA), 3-star ATH

Mark AllenDeMatha Catholic (Hyattsville, MD), 3-star RB

Troy Reeder , Salesianum (Wilmington, DE), 3-star LB



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Posted 25 April 2013 - 08:44 AM

Sophomore QB Steve Bench is transferring out of the program.  Destination unknown. Story here.

 

Bench was the only QB on the roster who took snaps last year (albeit only in 2 games, with a 2-for-8 passing line).  For the time being, at least until nationally #1-rated QB Christian Hackenberg shows up this summer, JUCO standout and Sophomore transfer Tyler Ferguson has the starting spot.



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Posted 27 April 2013 - 09:31 PM

Sophomore QB Steve Bench is transferring out of the program.  Destination unknown. Story here.

 

Bench was the only QB on the roster who took snaps last year (albeit only in 2 games, with a 2-for-8 passing line).  For the time being, at least until nationally #1-rated QB Christian Hackenberg shows up this summer, JUCO standout and Sophomore transfer Tyler Ferguson has the starting spot.

I see this as good news because now they can't redshirt Hackenberg. Nits aren't going to get four years out of the kid anyway, assuming he is an elite QB by the end of his junior year. Redshirting would have just wasted a year. Ferguson will probably start the season at QB and if he stumbles during the conference schedule, Hackenberg should be polished enough by then to step in.



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Posted 13 May 2013 - 01:50 PM

Lions have added 2 more commitments:

 

Jared Wangler, De LaSalle Collegiate (Warren, MI), 3-star S.

Marcus Allen, Dr. Henry Wise (Upper Marlboro, MD), 4-star S. [Edit: No relationship to fellow commit Mark Allen, or NFL HoFer Marcus Allen).

 

Full summery of all commitments to date here.

 

If my counting is correct, BO'B has 2 more schollies left, although they have floated an offer to QB JJ Consentino (Pittsburgh Central Catholic, Pittsburgh, PA), who is currently a commit to Florida State.  There's speculation that this is only a move to put pressure on another QB who's had an open since early April -- Michael O'Connor (IMG Academy, Bradenton, FL) -- and is intended to get him to hasten his decision.  Penn State has told O'Connor he is their top choice, but O'Connor has said he won't make his decision until June.  He has other offers from Michigan State and Vanderbilt.


Edited by SoxJox, 13 May 2013 - 01:50 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2013 - 11:41 AM

Penn State extends scholarship offer to Cardinal Gibbons (FL) QB Peyton Bender.  3 stars / ranked 34th nationally by 247sports. Checks in at 6'1" 170#. Committed to Washington State, but only has scholarship offers from WVA and Kentucky 

 

Article also mentions that they have offered Wheaton North (IL) QB Clayton Thorson. 4 stars / ranked 11th nationally by 247sports.  6'4", 190#.  Committed to Northwestern.



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Posted 16 May 2013 - 01:24 PM

Well...another bruhaha regarding changes in the team medical staff brewing at Penn State from a recent SI article by David Epstein, who clearly has an ax to grind with Penn State.

 

BO'B is about as incensed as I've heard him on this.  Audio interview.

 

Bottom line is that guy, Dr. Wayne Sebastianelli, that Epstein says was "reassigned", was in fact promoted to director of ALL university athletic medicine, not just the football team.

 

Edit: I should have pointed out that the bruhaha is in the media's mind.  I  mean, what other schools get this level of scrutiny regarding a decision about a change in the medical doctor serving the football team?  And to place it under a headline of, ""Do ATHLETICS still have too much power at Penn State?"

[emphasis added].  Where else does SI think the "power" comes from to make decisions regarding affairs within the athletic department? The School of Business?


Edited by SoxJox, 16 May 2013 - 02:08 PM.


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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:37 PM

Well...another bruhaha regarding changes in the team medical staff brewing at Penn State from a recent SI article by David Epstein, who clearly has an ax to grind with Penn State.

 

BO'B is about as incensed as I've heard him on this.  Audio interview.

 

Bottom line is that guy, Dr. Wayne Sebastianelli, that Epstein says was "reassigned", was in fact promoted to director of ALL university athletic medicine, not just the football team.

 

Edit: I should have pointed out that the bruhaha is in the media's mind.  I  mean, what other schools get this level of scrutiny regarding a decision about a change in the medical doctor serving the football team?  And to place it under a headline of, ""Do ATHLETICS still have too much power at Penn State?"

[emphasis added].  Where else does SI think the "power" comes from to make decisions regarding affairs within the athletic department? The School of Business?

Actually, a buddy of mine who is a professor in the Business School at Penn State told me about Joyner's financial difficulties after Dave got hired as AD. The story has been common knowledge within school circles for a long time. Joyner's business went under and he couldn't even afford his own home in State College five years ago, until Ira Lubert stepped in and paid off the mortgage. Someone inside the athletic department obviously has an axe to grind with Joyner. This article is more about getting at Joyner than BOB. The people who are mad at Joyner are the Paternophiles who won't let the past go. Sebas was the last holdover from the Paterno era, other than Larry Johnson and the other defensive coach they kept from Joe's staff. The Sebas-Joyner rivalry is real. Dave got him pushed out of daily contact with the football program. Somebody within the athletic department leaked this story to Epstein. He didn't come up with it on his own. He's a frigging medical reporter.

 

Franco Harris, the Lubrano guy on the BOT, and a bunch of former lettermen won't let the past go so that BOB can deal with the present. The program can't afford this kind of backstabbing because BOB will leave and this is the excuse that allows him to make a clean break. I don't think it's the media so much as it is the civil war within the athletic department that is going to bring the football program down.


Edited by terrynever, 16 May 2013 - 02:40 PM.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 08:04 AM

This is why Penn State will survive the "trouble years".
 
2013 recruiting video.
 

Edit: Sorry...don't know how to embed a video.


Edited by SoxJox, 29 May 2013 - 08:25 AM.


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Posted 29 May 2013 - 09:04 AM

It all depends on how long they can keep O'Brien. I don't think he'll be there after 2016 at the latest, and the way the Joe Paterno Club is making life hell for him I wouldn't be shocked if it's sooner rather than later honestly.

 

The medical staff leak/misdirection, trying to fill the board, etc. are all total bullshit I'd imagine he's pissed about having to face.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:13 AM

This is why Penn State will survive the "trouble years".
 
2013 recruiting video.
 

Edit: Sorry...don't know how to embed a video.

 

They have a hug edge being a private school, and in a football state where they are the TEAM.

 

This means they have a huge edge in being able to fill out their roster with a bunch of 2/3 star Pennsylvania kids who would traditionally end up being high end MAC recruits, and instead now are showing up as invited walk ons paying in state rates.   This means PSU will never suffer the pain of a 65 man roster limit would cause if it were to happen someplace like BC



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:50 AM

They have a hug edge being a private school, and in a football state where they are the TEAM.

 

This means they have a huge edge in being able to fill out their roster with a bunch of 2/3 star Pennsylvania kids who would traditionally end up being high end MAC recruits, and instead now are showing up as invited walk ons paying in state rates.   This means PSU will never suffer the pain of a 65 man roster limit would cause if it were to happen someplace like BC

Gazing up at post #7, that appears to be exactly the case.



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Posted 29 May 2013 - 11:57 AM

I played around with the numbers and I think that this is the way the scholarships will work themselves out.

 

 

Penn State Scholarship Projections
2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
Total Roster (Assume "Steady State" = 110) 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110 110
Team Scholarships Limit 85 67 65 65 65 65 75 85 85 85 85 85 85 85
Non-Scholarship/Walk-On 25 43 45 45 45 45 35 25 25 25 25 25 25 25
                             
2012 Freshmen on Scholarship   17 17 17                    
2012 Sophomores on Scholarship   17 17                      
2012 Juniors on Scholarship   18                        
Added Walk-On Scholarships     1 3 5                  
                             
Recruiting Class of 2013   15 15 15 15                  
Recruiting Class of 2014     15 15 15 15                
Recruiting Class of 2015       15 15 15 15              
Recruiting Class of 2016         15 15 15 15            
Recruiting Class of 2017           20 20 20 20          
Recruiting Class of 2018             25 25 25 25        
Recruiting Class of 2019               25 25 25 25      
Recruiting Class of 2020                 15 15 15 15    
Recruiting Class of 2021                   20 20 20 20  
Recruiting Class of 2022                     25 25 25 25
Recruiting Class of 2023                       25 25 25
Recruiting Class of 2024                         15 15
Recruiting Class of 2025                           20

 

Notes:

  1. 2012 Fresh/Soph on Scholarship are estimates based on 85 total limit divided by 5 years, to include one redshirt year. Juniors on Scholarship are "artificially" estimated at 18 to reach a total of 52 returning scholarships.  When added to the 15 scholarships for the Class of 2013, the total then matches BO'B's public statements that he will be carrying only 67 scholarships for 2013. 
  2. Unless the NCAA permits otherwise, Penn State will not reach 65 scholarships from 2014-2016. They will fall short by 1, 3, and 5 scholarships for those years, respectively.  Assume NCAA will allow additional scholarships above 15 to be offered to walk-ons or transfers to permit total to reach 65 (ex.: 2015 has only 45 "sanctioned" scholarships on the books for recruiting classes 2013-2015, 17  scholarships continuing from recruiting class 2012, yielding a total of 62.  With a limit of 65, 3 additional scholarships can be offered to walk-ons.  If this is NOT permitted, then the total number of scholarships will not reach 65 in 2014, 2015, and 2016, and subsequent years are accordingly affected.
  3. NCAA rules limit annual scholarships offers to 25, which creates a shortfall of 10 scholarships in 2018.  Penn State could request relief to make up the difference by permitting offers of scholarships to walk-ons already on the roster.
  4. Even though Penn State comes out from under the 15-annual/65-team scholarship limit after 2016, they will not regain the 85-scholarship level until 2019 due to a combination of the carryover effect of being limited to 15 scholarships for 2013-2016 and the annual scholarship limit of 25.

Edit: Regarding note #2 above.  Upon further review, the NCAA sanctions letter addressed this but it had slipped my mind.  The sanctions state, "In the event the total grants-in-aid drop below 65, the University may award grants-in-aid to non-scholarship student athletes who have been members of the football team as allowed by Bylaw 15.5.6.3.6."

 

Bylaw 15.5.6.3.6 Aid First Awarded After Second Year, states, "A student-athlete who has been in residence at the certifying institution for at least two academic years may receive athletically related financial aid for the first time without such aid counting as an initial award, provided the aid falls within the overall grant limitation."

 

So it looks like they will be able to make up the shortfalls of 1, 3, and 5 for 2014-2016.


Edited by SoxJox, 31 May 2013 - 02:37 PM.


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Posted 02 June 2013 - 10:15 PM

nice job re: the scholarship breakdowns. thoughts on judge kane's pending decision? i'm thinking the case is allowed to proceed and the ncaa is forced to offer a "settlement" with the commonwealth.   we are...



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 09:39 AM

Penn St with another commitment for 2014 , Noah Beh. A local kid for me , I saw him play a few times last year, really impressive along the offensive and Defensive lines. Although a little undersized right now, he looks like he'll he playing along the O-Line at PSU
http://www.pennlive....kills_camp.html

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Posted 03 June 2013 - 10:53 AM

thoughts on judge kane's pending decision?

I've heard well-reasoned arguments going either way.  But if I were to base it on some of the questions she asked during pre-trial motions, it sounds like she's receptive to hearing the arguments, or is at least sincerely inquisitive.

 

Interesting that Sandusky's prosecuting PA DA and the judge in this case are both named Kane. 



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 10:55 AM

Although a little undersized right now

Fitzpatrick will put 30-40 pounds on him before you know it.



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Posted 03 June 2013 - 11:37 AM

The Penn State-UCF game move to Ireland is really close to being finalized, fwiw.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:14 PM

The Penn State-UCF game move to Ireland is really close to being finalized, fwiw.

Both schools should travel quite well to this.  Penn State has a large fan base, of course, but UCF has somewhere around 25,000 season ticket holders.  Croke Parkseats ~83,000, so it should be a sell out.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 05:52 PM

Both schools should travel quite well to this.  Penn State has a large fan base, of course, but UCF has somewhere around 25,000 season ticket holders.  Croke Parkseats ~83,000, so it should be a sell out.

ND-Navy did poor there in the late 90s, like 35,000 people attended, so it'll be interesting. Last year they only had 49,000 at the new Aviva Stadium.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 06:38 PM

The Penn State-UCF game move to Ireland is really close to being finalized, fwiw.

What year? Because I'm heading to State College on Sept. 12 and might even go to the UCF game.



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Posted 04 June 2013 - 07:16 PM

What year? Because I'm heading to State College on Sept. 12 and might even go to the UCF game.

2014, they'd move the Temple game.

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Posted 04 June 2013 - 09:20 PM

2014, they'd move the Temple game.


Thanks. Kind of figured 2014. George O'Leary vs. BOB in Dublin. That might be an interesting road trip but I'm getting too old to have that much fun.

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Posted 05 June 2013 - 10:07 AM

Following up on Post #17, PennLive is reporting that Bradenton (FL) IMG Academy quarterback Michael O'Connor will announce his college decision this Saturday, and Penn State is expected to be the choice, according to 247sports.com analyst JC Shurburtt.

 

"O'Connor is the No. 9 pro-style quarterback in the nation, according to the 247 composite rankings. He's a 6-4, 223 pound signal caller with offers from Vanderbilt, Michigan State and Mississippi State, among others."

 

Edit 6/9/13: Lions have indeed landed O'Connor. Read.


Edited by SoxJox, 09 June 2013 - 09:02 AM.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 07:37 AM

Have now been able to update the spreadsheet based on actual roster as of June 10.  Unless the NCAA permits adding walk-on scholarships to reach the 85-total limit in 2018, 2019, and 2020, Penn State will not regain that level until 2021. also interesting that unless BO'B adds a significant number of walk-ons for 2013, the total scholarship/walk-on roster will be at somewhere near 85.

 

  

Penn State Scholarship Projections
2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 2021 2022 2023 2024 2025
Total Roster (Assume "Steady State" = 105) 85 105 105 105 105 105 105 105 105 105 105 105 105
Team Scholarships Limit 67 65 65 65 65 85 85 85 85 85 85 85 85
Non-Scholarship/Walk-On 18 40 40 40 40 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20
                           
On Scholarship but Not on Roster 2                        
In Final Year of Eligibility 10                        
In Junior Year of Eligibility 13 13                      
In Sophomore Year of Eligibility 13 13 13                    
Red-Shirted Freshmen 13 13 13 13                  
                           
Added Walk-On 2-yr Scholarships to Jr         14 14              
Added Walk-On 2-yr Scholarships to Jr           5 5            
Added Walk-On 2-yr Scholarships to Jr             2 2          
Added Walk-On 2-yr Scholarships to Sr               3          
                           
Spring 2013 Enrollees 4 4 4 4                  
Recruiting Class of 2013 12 12 12 12                  
Recruiting Class of 2014   10 10 10 10                
Recruiting Class of 2015     13 13 13 13              
Recruiting Class of 2016       13 13 13 13            
Recruiting Class of 2017         15 15 15 15          
Recruiting Class of 2018           25 25 25 25        
Recruiting Class of 2019             25 25 25 25      
Recruiting Class of 2020               15 15 15 15    
Recruiting Class of 2021                 20 20 20 20  
Recruiting Class of 2022                   25 25 25 25
Recruiting Class of 2023                     25 25 25
Recruiting Class of 2024                       15 15
Recruiting Class of 2025                         20
                           
Assumptions and Notes:                          
1. Based on Penn State Roster as of 6 June 2013.                          
2. Sanctions explicitly permit offering additional scholarships to walk-ons in order to allow the roster to reach 65 for 2014-2017.  NCAA Bylaws limit these scholarships who have been on the team roster for at least 2 years.                          
3. NCAA Bylaws limit annual scholarships offers to 25, which creates a shortfall of 19, 7, and 5 scholarships in 2018, 2019, and 2020, respectively.  Unlike including an explicit allowance to award scholarships to walk-ons, the sanctions did not address allowing additional walk-on scholarships to reach the 85-scholarship.                          
4. Although the 15-annual and 65-total scholarship limits end in 2016 and 2017, respectively, Penn State will not regain the 85-scholarship level until 2021 due to a combination of the carryover effect of being limited to 15 scholarships for 2013-2016 and the annual scholarship limit of 25 - UNLESS the NCAA allows award of additional walk-ons to reach the 85-scholarship level.                


Edited by SoxJox, 10 June 2013 - 07:49 AM.


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Posted 10 June 2013 - 09:24 AM

And while it's a little early, here's the 2014 class commitment as of June 10 (currently ranked No. 15 in the ESPN.com class rankings, No. 16 on Rivals.com and No. 18 on 247sports.com. Penn State held steady at No. 13 on Scout.com):

 

 

2014 Recruiting Class
Player Pos. School Ht. Wt. Date Rivals Scout ESPN 247sports
Marcus Allen S Dr. Henry Wise (Md.) 6-1 180 5/10/2013 3 4 NR 4
Mark Allen RB DeMatha Catholic (Md.) 5-7 185 10/16/2012 3 3 3 3
Troy Apke WR Mt. Lebanon 6-1 187 4/13/2013 3 4 NR 3
Noah Beh OL Scranton Prep 6-6 260 6/2/2013 3 3 NR 3
Chris Godwin WR Middletown (Del.) 6-1 193 4/23/2013 4 4 4 4
Michael O'Connor QB IMG Academy (Fla.) 6-5 223 6/8/2013 4 3 4 4
Troy Reeder LB Salesianum (Del.) 6-2 230 2/26/2013 3 3 4 3
Nick Scott ATH Fairfax (Va.) 5-11 188 2/23/2013 3 3 3 3
DeAndre Thompkins WR Swansboro (N.C.) 6-0 170 4/20/2013 4 3 4 4
Jared Wangler LB De La Salle Collegiate (Mich.) 6-2 218 5/10/2013 3 3 NR 3
Daquan Worley CB Coatesville 5-11 170 5/3/2013 3 3 NR 3



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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:00 PM

BO'B's Contract Amendment = Raise

 

Clearly an attempt to thwart would be NFL suitors.

 

"O'Brien's original contract had a base salary of $950,000 for the 2012 season that was scheduled to increase five percent each season. Instead, O'Brien will see his salary increase to $1,932,779 in 2013, so he has essentially received a million-dollar raise.

 

"However, O'Brien's base salary will decrease to $1,137,096 in 2014 before a bump up to $1,650,994 in 2015. That amount will then increase by five percent in the 2016 and 2017 seasons.

 

"O'Brien will also receive an additional $1 million through 2017 for appearances on school-sponsored radio and television shows, along with speaking engagements."

 

I'm not certain how they are calculating that decrease in 2014.  $950,000 (2012) * 1.05 (2013) * 1.05 (2014) = $1,047,375.  

$1,047,375 < $1,137,096.  So the amendment represents an increase by my math.


Edited by SoxJox, 20 June 2013 - 05:10 PM.


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Posted 09 July 2013 - 06:12 PM

Penn State to Play UCF in Ireland in 2014.

 

Apparently, efforts to schedule the game for THIS year didn't pan out, but it's another arrow in the recruiting quiver.


Edited by SoxJox, 09 July 2013 - 07:37 PM.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 09:15 PM

The transfer exemption rule is officially over tomorrow.

 

Fifteen left before last season, and I think nine left since last season finished.


Edited by Infield Infidel, 31 July 2013 - 09:16 PM.


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Posted 31 July 2013 - 10:43 PM

And aside from Redd, Brown and the punter who was injured (blanking on his name, which is bad since he transferred to my alma mater) none of those were really key/significant players. They essentially survived a massive earthquake with only a few broken window panes.

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Posted 01 August 2013 - 07:47 AM

...punter who was injured (blanking on his name...

Andrew Fera - placekicker.



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Posted 01 August 2013 - 12:26 PM

I think the bigger issue is that, including seniors, they've lost about 45 guys in the last year, and replaced them with 15 freshman and 10ish walk-ons. Had they lost fewer transfers they'd have more depth (duh.). For the next couple season, PSU will have to be overwhelmingly lucky with injuries maintain the quality they showed last season. 

 

Here's Bill Connolly's preview of PSU, he projects them as 7th in the conference, but in the highest tier of Big Ten teams

http://www.sbnation....ster/in/4302213



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Posted 02 August 2013 - 12:41 PM

Re: Injuries

 

O'Brien has said they won't hit in practice much - he doesn't want anyone to be brought to the ground. Their spring game was essentially a skills competition. He is doing everything he can to avoid injuries when he can control things, ie practices and weightroom sessions and everything. Depth is their biggest hurdle and it'll get worse as the scholarship loss mounts to bodies in 2-3 years.



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Re: Injuries

 

O'Brien has said they won't hit in practice much - he doesn't want anyone to be brought to the ground. Their spring game was essentially a skills competition. He is doing everything he can to avoid injuries when he can control things, ie practices and weightroom sessions and everything. Depth is their biggest hurdle and it'll get worse as the scholarship loss mounts to bodies in 2-3 years.

Lousy tackling performance against Central Florida may result in the end of "thud" tackling drills where players don't take the ball carrier to the ground.

Offense looks good, defense got pushed around by CFU. They have Kent State this week, then a bye, then the Big Ten schedule starts. It's not going to be pretty.

Unless scholarship sanctions are lightened during the offseason, BOB likely leaves after 2014 or 2015, leaving the head job to his DC, John Butler.

 

John Bacon has written a great book on college football called "Fourth And Long: The Fight For The Soul of College Football." He focuses on four Big Ten programs -- PSU, Ohio State, Northwestern and Michigan. BOB gave Bacon total access to his program during the time the sanctions were levied. There is stuff about Penn State that I had never seen before.

 

I guess the soul of college football and the fight for it would be better explored in the SEC but that's a story for another day.



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Posted 17 September 2013 - 08:07 PM

I would be shocked if a hypothetical next hire came from someone not traditionally associated with the program.

I found a lot of the Bacon stuff interesting, but it should be noted that many of his claims were refuted. Hard to say what's as reported and what isn't, but I love the Jay Paterno story and opt to take it at face value. Anyone who would continue to play Bolden needs his head examined.

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 05:45 PM

I would be shocked if a hypothetical next hire came from someone not traditionally associated with the program.

I found a lot of the Bacon stuff interesting, but it should be noted that many of his claims were refuted. Hard to say what's as reported and what isn't, but I love the Jay Paterno story and opt to take it at face value. Anyone who would continue to play Bolden needs his head examined.

Good post. Agree with the second paragraph. Don't even want to think about the first.

Best part of the book for me was how the players were disenchanted with Joe -- because hard-core fans felt the same way for the last few years. I love the guy but he stayed too long.



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Posted 18 September 2013 - 07:21 PM

I am sorry that I have disappeared from this discussion for some time and not kept it at the top of the most recently updated threads.  I am suffering from a "compound fracture": the very recent loss of my mother, at the ripe age of 79 (just 3 weeks shy of my parents' 64th wedding anniversary (yes, you read the years right)) , to corticobasal degeneration, and to my own extended stint on the unemployment roster...now extending into its 5th month.

 

I've not read the Bacon offering and likely will not come 'round to examine it in the near future.  I've looked long and hard at the sanctions and the long term effects, and can only conclude that despite his best efforts, BO'B is fighting an up-mountain (forget "hill") battle.  But I also take him at his word.  He has repeatedly stated that he is committed to the program - despite past and future expected NFL proffers.  

 

I truly believe that he, his wife, and children have found a very special place in Happy Valley.  They have very special care being offered to Jack, their youngest son, who suffers from Lissencephaly, a rare brain disorder, through Hershey Medical Center, one of the premier pediatric care facilities.  Can they find similar care elsewhere?  Perhaps.  As personal?  Perhaps.  For a child and family experiencing these types of afflictions, consistency and permanency are paramount.  I don't claim to speak for the O'Brien's, but I am certain they are being provided similar counsel.

 

Certainly the trappings of mucho grande NFL $$$ could serve as an inducement to look elsewhere, but I don't believe it would bring any greater sense of peace.  If he changes his mind in the near or distant future, so be it.  Penn State will then, depending on the path they choose to explore for his successor, continue on a higher plane, or devolve to the discordant core of pay-for-view college athletics.  Perhaps it is only a matter of time, and Penn State begins a trundling Don Quixotec venture that nearly every major program in Division I is now wandering through.

 

We Penn Staters live in a dream state in many ways.  The Sandusky affair has stripped us of that veneer. But one thing is certain...Penn State held itself to a higher standard.  It is arguable, depending on which side of the vitriol you wish to alight, that the standard has been blemished in any case.

 

But does that mean that Penn State should discontinue its attempts to reach for that higher standard?  Recent events suggest it can never be truly attained - at least not permanently.

 

But if there is a football coach other than BO'B in the US high school, college, or professional ranks who is better positioned to lead Penn State through its next phase, I don't know who that would be....and neither does anyone else at this point.

 

I hope he stays beyond the sanctions.  He's a good fit - wiping away everything else.  Just a good person, in a good place, facing controversy not of his or his platers' making, but working to his and their utmost to regain the glory.  I think, at its heart, at least at Penn State, this is what the players are attracted to.


Edited by SoxJox, 18 September 2013 - 07:24 PM.


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Posted 24 September 2013 - 11:45 AM

http://www.pennlive...._penn_stat.html

NCAA reduces sanctions.



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