Let brady play a big tram on the road and win or play with a new team with less weapons and win 11 games and he can have it. Be objective. He git hurt in 2008 and they went 11-5. Vikings without adrian ir broncos without Peyton suffer more. Otherwise one should argue those are better and deeper teams. Brady is god like but so is his teams talent. This is not the best wb award, it is the "we die if you get hurt" award. Or at least it should be.
Oh jesus, not this inane, poorly thought of, "they won with Matt Cassel" argument again... The Patriots had the best team in the league and the weakest schedule in football in 2008. Had Brady been there, they win AT THE VERY LEAST 14 games, and had a real chance of going undefeated. If you remember, the Patriots' 5 losses came against every team that had a chance of beating them (Steelers, Chargers, Colts, Dolphins, Jets). So what happened? They missed the playoffs altogether with pretty much the same squad that was a play away from being 19-0 the year before. Hey, but I guess the dropoff from "arguably greatest team in the history of football" to "7th best team in the AFC" isn't signifcant.
And sure, the Broncos would just whither and die without Peyton Manning, just like they did last season when Tim Tebow, who's about the 40th best quarterback in the NFL, led them to the playoffs and won a postseason game in Pittsburgh. Even the Colts are likely to end up with a better record now than they did in Peyton's last season there, now that they are actually trying to win football games, and they have a rookie quarterback.
If you're goind to bring up the "11-5 with Cassel" argument, be sure to remember "7-4 and a playoff win with Tim Tebow" or "9-4 with a rookie QB".
And talking about the Patriots talent. Yeah, that Denver defense is nothing special. Neither is their O-Line. And having two 6'4, 4.40 receivers on the outside isn't really helpful either. Give me a break, Peyton Manning lost to pretty much every good team he faced this season. The Broncos' best win is the Steelers in the first game of the season. He has absolutely feasted on bad competition. Brady has beaten the Broncos, the Texans and the Colts, who have 3 of the 5 best records in the AFC. He also would've beaten Baltimore if it weren't for some absolutely ridiculous officiating. Houston, New England and Denver are the three teams atop most power rankings, Brady beat two of them. Manning lost both times.
I think you can make a solid case for Manning or Peterson to win MVP, without resorting to just spouting "oh, but they won 11 games without Brady", without even considering all the factors that went into that.
Edited by rodderick, 11 December 2012 - 06:37 AM.