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#1 NatetheGreat

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:11 AM

http://sportsillustr...p&sct=hp_t11_a1

MVP, Finals MVP, Olympic Gold Medal--I know some others have a case, but its hard to argue this isn't weel deserved even if you don't personally like the guy.

Two things come across about Lebron in this article

1.) When it comes to basketball, he's actually a lot more cerebral than many give him credit for:

Peers often describe James as "a beast," and even though they mean to flatter him, the label dismisses the depths to which he comprehends the game. He can deconstruct the top eight players on every NBA team and many college teams. He can run every set in the Heat playbook from all five positions. In film sessions he sometimes completes Spoelstra's sentences, and at the Olympics, many of Team USA's defensive strategies were suggestions from James in practice. "He's not smart," says Krzyzewski. "He's brilliant. And I don't like to use that word."

In Cleveland, James would crack jokes during meetings because he already knew what the coaches were trying to teach. "It was like the kid in school who can doodle and throw spitballs but still get A's," Jent says. Because James was the Cavaliers' best player, others followed his example, though they did not grasp the material as easily. James couldn't understand, when games began, why they kept blowing assignments. "I expect everyone to be on the same wavelength, and that's a problem I'm still working on," he says. "If I see something and it doesn't happen the way I envision, I can get frustrated."

When James is grabbing a rare rest on the Heat bench, he usually sits next to second-year guard Terrel Harris, narrating the action so a young player can see the game through his eyes. During a mid-November- game in Denver, Ray Allen was dribbling upcourt and Rashard Lewis was streaking down the left side. James inched forward in his seat and started yelling, "Rashard, it's coming to you! Get ready to shoot!" Allen raced around a pick-and-roll with Bosh and threw the ball to the corner, where an expectant Lewis caught it and drilled the three-pointer. "How did you know that was going to happen?" Harris asked.

The standard scouting report given to Heat players before games is two pages. The one James receives is four, filled with the kind of advanced stats reserved for coaches, bloggers and Shane Battier. "I want to know that this guy drives left 70% of the time, or pulls up when he drives right, or likes to cross over after two dribbles," James says. Even when he is with friends, he'll geek out in the middle of casual conversation: "Remember when I drove and kicked to Ray at the four-minute mark in the second quarter. If he'd have drifted into the corner, we'd have had a better shot." Then, after a pause: "So what are you guys getting into tonight?"

"He'll be talking about a player and tell you, 'If you post up on the left side and drive middle, he'll foul you every time,'" Carter says. "Everybody sees the dunks and the 35 points, but it's no accident. Carmelo Anthony is the same size. J.R. Smith can jump just as high. Dwight Howard is as good an athlete. It's his thought process that separates him."

The Heat stages intricate shooting games after practice, with as many as eight participants, and James keeps all the scores in his head. One of the games is a free throw contest called 21, in which a player receives one point for a make, gets two for a swish and subtracts one for a miss. When James wins, which is rare, he rejoices before the others have even calculated the outcome. "It's a little like A Beautiful Mind," says Battier, a Miami forward. "He has a quasi-photographic memory that allows him to process data very quickly. Usually, the über-athletic guys who are so much more physically gifted than everybody else don't give much credence to the mental side of the game. Dwyane, for instance, has no time for this. He couldn't care less about numbers. He goes out, imposes his will, and that's great. It's made him a Hall of Famer. But LeBron is looking for every edge."


And

2.) He's still kind of a douchebag


SPOELSTRA: Once the game started, we saw that look. We just call it the look. We have a picture of it now, bigger than life, outside our locker room. It's the look of the ultimate competitor.
LeBRON JAMES: You know how in school, around the classroom, there's always the alphabet? The capital A and lower case A has an apple. The capital B and lower case B has a ball. I always looked at the L, because of my name, and it had a lion. That's why I love lions. The look they're talking about is the look lions get when they're seeking prey and it's time to feast.





#2 BroodsSexton

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:15 AM

The Heat stages intricate shooting games after practice, with as many as eight participants, and James keeps all the scores in his head. One of the games is a free throw contest called 21, in which a player receives one point for a make, gets two for a swish and subtracts one for a miss.


Intricate.

#3 Wilco's Last Fan

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:24 AM

Intricate.


I loved that part in the movie, when Russell Crowe figured out how to count to 21 in his head.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:25 AM

The quote posted is intricate.

However, for many months, I am wondering if and when the issue of steroid use is going to be broached with Lebron being exhibit no 1. He's a beast, but his body isn't just from doing weights. And if he doesn't have the same physique, I don't know to what extent he remains as dominant as he is.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:45 AM

The quote posted is intricate.

However, for many months, I am wondering if and when the issue of steroid use is going to be broached with Lebron being exhibit no 1. He's a beast, but his body isn't just from doing weights. And if he doesn't have the same physique, I don't know to what extent he remains as dominant as he is.


This is how I have always felt about Lebron. The guy is a physical freak, and a dominant force. But when his athleticism diminishes and he cant overpower or outgun his opponents, does he love the game and does he love winning enough to develop a game beyond dunking and crashing into the paint. Jordan did it, and Kobe did it, but can Lebron?

#6 Dehere

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:46 AM

Intricate.


You're really ripping him for this? I'd bet $100 that not one member of SOSH could participate in the game described and accurately keep score for all the players.

#7 BroodsSexton

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:52 AM

You're really ripping him for this? I'd bet $100 that not one member of SOSH could participate in the game described and accurately keep score for all the players.


You don't have to keep all the scores. Keep your own, and if nobody first claims to have won, then you win when you get to 21.

#8 NatetheGreat

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:55 AM

This is how I have always felt about Lebron. The guy is a physical freak, and a dominant force. But when his athleticism diminishes and he cant overpower or outgun his opponents, does he love the game and does he love winning enough to develop a game beyond dunking and crashing into the paint. Jordan did it, and Kobe did it, but can Lebron?


Lebron's actually done a good job of developing his game. When he came into the league he couldn't play defense, he couldn't shoot, and he had no post game whatsoever. He's become an elite defender, a very good shooter, and his post game has improved enormously as well. A few years ago I might have believed that he'd fall off quickly when he lost a step, but his transition to interior scoring power forward has been so effective that I actually think he'll remain an elite player for a very long time.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 12:48 PM

If the refs don't steal the ECC from the Celtics and he loses the series 4-1, we'd be looking at Eli again? Or an Olympian?

#10 collings94

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 01:52 PM

Lebron's actually done a good job of developing his game. When he came into the league he couldn't play defense, he couldn't shoot, and he had no post game whatsoever. He's become an elite defender, a very good shooter, and his post game has improved enormously as well. A few years ago I might have believed that he'd fall off quickly when he lost a step, but his transition to interior scoring power forward has been so effective that I actually think he'll remain an elite player for a very long time.


I disagree with some of that. He has shown some improvement working in the post, but he still lacks a go to move, and doesn't have the pretty fall away like MJ or Kobe. I think Lebron is a very good defender, but slightly overrated as one. His stats are a little misleading, he finished second in Defensive Win Shares last year, but that was mainly because he played a ton of minutes. I also disagree with him being considered a "very good shooter". He has become a smarter shooter, but not necessarily a better one.


If the refs don't steal the ECC from the Celtics and he loses the series 4-1, we'd be looking at Eli again? Or an Olympian?


If the C's go to the finals, Kevin Durant probably wins Sportsman of the Year.

Edited by collings94, 03 December 2012 - 01:53 PM.


#11 DrewDawg

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:24 PM

You're really ripping him for this? I'd bet $100 that not one member of SOSH could participate in the game described and accurately keep score for all the players.


Okay. Prove it.

And come on, we've all played "21" before (not this version, but still one that made us count all the way up to 21). No one relied on one person to keep score for everyone.

#12 Brickowski

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:32 PM

Let's hope it's a big, wet kiss of death. He must be on the cover, right?

#13 Dehere

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:38 PM

If the C's go to the finals, Kevin Durant probably wins Sportsman of the Year.


It should have been Usain Bolt either way.

#14 Dehere

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 02:47 PM

Okay. Prove it.

And come on, we've all played "21" before (not this version, but still one that made us count all the way up to 21). No one relied on one person to keep score for everyone.


I dunno. The writer says James keeps "all" the scores in his head. It also suggests that a coach keeps score on paper but that LeBron keeps them all in his head just because he can I guess.

I think it's pretty impressive if it's true. Maybe I just have a low bar for mental agility. Whenever I try to count my drinks I always mess up before I get to 21.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 03:49 PM

Let's hope it's a big, wet kiss of death. He must be on the cover, right?


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Is it just me, or does Lebron have the Greg Oden "I'm in my 20s but look like I'm in my 50's" look?

#16 slamminsammya

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 04:05 PM

He has become a smarter shooter, but not necessarily a better one.


I know what you mean, but in terms of arguing about the relative merits of a particular player's game, whats the difference? He has become better at making his team score via the action of shooting the ball.

#17 JakeRae

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:44 PM

You're really ripping him for this? I'd bet $100 that not one member of SOSH could participate in the game described and accurately keep score for all the players.

This is a ridiculous statement. This is about the least impressive of the cerebral accomplishments the article lists for Lebron. I can't claim to have ever replicated the exact task you speak of, but I could play the standard game of 21 with 6 or 7 other players and keep track of everyone's score when I was 10 years old and have no doubt that I could do exactly what Lebron is described as doing. I'm not saying everyone could do this, but it's ridiculous to think that he is alone in the ability to keep 10 or 15 running counts of small numbers going in his head at once.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:52 PM

I understand the hatred of playing *against* Lebron, but I'll never understand the hatred FOR him. When his career is over, its very possible he is thought of as the best player of all time. He has the dominance of Shaq with an unparalleled skill set. He's also an exceptional teammate.

We are all witnesses.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 05:59 PM

http://sportsillustr...p&sct=hp_t11_a1

MVP, Finals MVP, Olympic Gold Medal--I know some others have a case, but its hard to argue this isn't weel deserved even if you don't personally like the guy.


According to SI, the award is given to "the athlete or team whose performance that year most embodies the spirit of sportsmanship and achievement." Based on that standard, the winner should be Peyton Manning, but selecting LBJ is consistent with SI's longstanding practice of ignoring the sportsmanship part of the equation.

#20 Brickowski

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 06:35 PM

I understand the hatred of playing *against* Lebron, but I'll never understand the hatred FOR him.


Did you watch "The Decision?"

I don't hate the guy. Just call it a complete and utter lack of respect for LeBron as a human being.

Edited by Brickowski, 03 December 2012 - 06:36 PM.


#21 Jordu

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 07:33 PM

I echo maufman: LeBron is a lot of things, many of them good and useful, but "sportsman" ain't one of 'em.

#22 Zomp


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Posted 03 December 2012 - 08:04 PM

Did you watch "The Decision?"

I don't hate the guy. Just call it a complete and utter lack of respect for LeBron as a human being.


Of course I watched it, but I truly think Lebron didn't realize how bad that was going to make him look. He did raise millions of dollars for charity. It was definitely narcissistic, but then again, I think its amazing he isn't more of a douche bag (like Kobe) given his God given talent.

I guess I want to know what your (not anyone in particular) definition of a "sportsman" is. I see someone who is unquestionably the best player in the league, one who respects the game, who is a positive influence on young people, and is one of the best teammates you could ask for.

#23 Brickowski

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 08:46 PM

Well Zomp, I agree 100% that he's narcissistic. But yes, he's not a rapist like Kobe. I suppose that counts for something.

#24 Jordu

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 09:01 PM

Past Sportsmen of the Year include Tiger Woods (1996 & 2000), Mark McGwire/Sammy Sosa (1998), Lance Armstrong (2002), and Brett Favre (2007). That says something. What, I don't know, but something.


#25 Super Nomario

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 10:36 PM

According to SI, the award is given to "the athlete or team whose performance that year most embodies the spirit of sportsmanship and achievement." Based on that standard, the winner should be Peyton Manning, but selecting LBJ is consistent with SI's longstanding practice of ignoring the sportsmanship part of the equation.

What did Peyton Manning do that's so much more sportsman-y than LeBron?

I echo maufman: LeBron is a lot of things, many of them good and useful, but "sportsman" ain't one of 'em.

I disagree. He's the most talented player in his sport, but it's clear he works hard and takes that responsibility seriously. He's as good a scorer as just about anybody, but he plays the game the right way. He's a great passer and would rather pass out of a double-team than force a shot. He does whatever the team needs, offensively and defensively. He plays hard at both ends of the court. He's never gotten in any trouble off the court, and he doesn't have a reputation as a jerk or a bad teammate. What more do people want?

#26 Brickowski

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:06 PM

He's a great player-- and he knows it.

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:14 PM

He's a great player-- and he knows it.


Right? What an asshole.

#28 The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa

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Posted 03 December 2012 - 11:50 PM

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Is it just me, or does Lebron have the Greg Oden "I'm in my 20s but look like I'm in my 50's" look?


I thought it was Danny Glover.

#29 nighthob

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:02 AM

If the refs don't steal the ECC from the Celtics and he loses the series 4-1, we'd be looking at Eli again? Or an Olympian?


The refs didn't steal anything from Boston. Once Bosh was back Boston's goose was cooked.

#30 nighthob

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 01:06 AM

According to SI, the award is given to "the athlete or team whose performance that year most embodies the spirit of sportsmanship and achievement." Based on that standard, the winner should be Peyton Manning, but selecting LBJ is consistent with SI's longstanding practice of ignoring the sportsmanship part of the equation.


Getting traded to Denver is an achievement worthy of Sportsman of the Year? Now, if Denver makes a playoff run you could absolutely say he deserves it next year, but Manning didn't achieve anything last year aside from missing the season.


This is a ridiculous statement. This is about the least impressive of the cerebral accomplishments the article lists for Lebron. I can't claim to have ever replicated the exact task you speak of, but I could play the standard game of 21 with 6 or 7 other players and keep track of everyone's score when I was 10 years old and have no doubt that I could do exactly what Lebron is described as doing. I'm not saying everyone could do this, but it's ridiculous to think that he is alone in the ability to keep 10 or 15 running counts of small numbers going in his head at once.


How many NBA players do you think could manage the trick, though. ;)

Edited by nighthob, 04 December 2012 - 01:07 AM.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 11:56 AM

The refs didn't steal anything from Boston. Once Bosh was back Boston's goose was cooked.


Which was game 6...

#32 nighthob

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 12:13 PM

Which has nothing to do with my point that the refs didn't "steal" anything from Boston. Boston won games 3-5, Miami won games 6 & 7.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:09 PM



OK.

#34 nighthob

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 04:35 PM

If Rondo would ever start going straight into contact rather than attempting to avoid it he'd get more calls. You've pretty much illustrated what people have been saying for years, he did everything in his power to avoid Wade and the referee didn't catch the incidental contact. And, no, that doesn't constitute Stern's refs "stealing" a game. That's the sort of call that gets blown in both directions every game. (And as we root for the team with Kevin Garnett we should be glad about it as he gets away with a lot on the floor.)

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:07 PM

Which has nothing to do with my point that the refs didn't "steal" anything from Boston. Boston won games 3-5, Miami won games 6 & 7.


This isn't difficult. His point was that the refs cost the Celtics game 2. Think for a minute and get back to me.

You can disagree about how bad the refs were/weren't but whatever point you're trying to make doesn't work like you think it does. I don't think you can reasonably say the Heat didn't get major benefits (hell, even NBA lackey Stephen A called out Stern directly after the game), but that again isn't the point. Your argument about Bosh was, to put it nicely, not on target.

Edited by Ed Hillel, 04 December 2012 - 06:10 PM.


#36 nighthob

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:13 PM

The refs didn't "steal" game 2 from Boston. The only game stolen was the one Boston stole from themselves by shooting 50% from the free throw line.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:22 PM

Past Sportsmen of the Year include Tiger Woods (1996 & 2000), Mark McGwire/Sammy Sosa (1998), Lance Armstrong (2002), and Brett Favre (2007). That says something. What, I don't know, but something.


To balance that, consider Right-to-Play founder Johann Olav Koss (1994) as a humanitarian anti-Lance. He could be the first Sportsman of the Year to win a Nobel Peace Prize, too. Nice guys can win this thing too.

Edited by Fred not Lynn, 04 December 2012 - 06:23 PM.


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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:25 PM

To balance that, consider Right-to-Play founder Johann Olav Koss (1994) as a humanitarian anti-Lance. He could be the first Sportsman of the Year to win a Nobel Peace Prize, too. Nice guys can win this thing too.


Agreed. Arthur Ashe (1992), for humanitarian work.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 06:29 PM

I understand the hatred of playing *against* Lebron, but I'll never understand the hatred FOR him. When his career is over, its very possible he is thought of as the best player of all time. He has the dominance of Shaq with an unparalleled skill set. He's also an exceptional teammate.

We are all witnesses.

I get your reaction. He's a great player. He may turn out to be the greatest ever or number two behind Jordan. He has finally broken through to the winner's circle. As far as we know, he's never murdered or raped anyone.

My negative reaction is not tied to the fact that his teams have beaten the Cs in recent years. Hell, I hate that your Giants have beaten the Pats twice in the SB and it sickens me to this day, but I really have trouble hating anyone on that team. There are no obvious villains for me there. Eli is kind of a doofus and Coughlin's red face annoys me, but it's hard to hate excessively on doofiosity or rediosity.

With LeBron, it's the complete lack of self-awareness and just the way he carries himself that grates on me. Like all free agents, he had the right to go anywhere he wanted. But this was a guy who played in his hometown, made a big thing of that, had his team cater to his every whim (or so it seemed), then took a massive dump on all of his Ohio fans and then acted befuddled that anyone was upset. And his running mate Wade is a total cheapshot who makes everyone around him look worse in my eyes.

Clearly, we have imperfect knowledge. We don't actually know LeBron. Maybe if I did, I would feel differently. I have a good friend whose judgment I trust who has spent considerable time with A-Rod and who swears that he's really a decent guy who means well. That report seems inconceivable to me.

But even knowing that there's infinitely more that I don't know than I do know, the Queen still screams massive, unrelenting douche bag to me. The whole "Witness" campaign to me says it all. Who says that about himself or allows others to do so? Puke.

#40 Dehere

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:29 PM

This is a ridiculous statement. This is about the least impressive of the cerebral accomplishments the article lists for Lebron. I can't claim to have ever replicated the exact task you speak of, but I could play the standard game of 21 with 6 or 7 other players and keep track of everyone's score when I was 10 years old and have no doubt that I could do exactly what Lebron is described as doing. I'm not saying everyone could do this, but it's ridiculous to think that he is alone in the ability to keep 10 or 15 running counts of small numbers going in his head at once.


Great. Let's watch a basketball game together and you can keep track of the scoring for each of the starters on both teams in your head until someone reaches 21. Then you can tell me how many points all ten starters have scored up to that point, and I'll bet you $100 you don't get all ten right.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:31 PM

With LeBron, it's the complete lack of self-awareness and just the way he carries himself that grates on me. Like all free agents, he had the right to go anywhere he wanted. But this was a guy who played in his hometown, made a big thing of that, had his team cater to his every whim (or so it seemed), then took a massive dump on all of his Ohio fans and then acted befuddled that anyone was upset. And his running mate Wade is a total cheapshot who makes everyone around him look worse in my eyes.

But even knowing that there's infinitely more that I don't know than I do know, the Queen still screams massive, unrelenting douche bag to me. The whole "Witness" campaign to me says it all. Who says that about himself or allows others to do so? Puke.

So your arguments for LeBron is a dick are:
1) He left Cleveland two years ago
2) He has a teammate (Wade) you don't like
3) A Nike marketing campaign that debuted in 2005

I'm going to guess that SI didn't weigh these factors real heavily when picking their 2012 Sportsman of the Year.

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Posted 04 December 2012 - 07:36 PM

So your arguments for LeBron is a dick are:
1) He left Cleveland two years ago
2) He has a teammate (Wade) you don't like
3) A Nike marketing campaign that debuted in 2005

I'm going to guess that SI didn't weigh these factors real heavily when picking their 2012 Sportsman of the Year.

Cute oversimplification of my post. And while this thread is clearly about the SI choice, I was responding to Zomp's post and not addressing that choice. Witness my bunghole.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 12:57 AM

Eh. I'm kind of with Nomario here.

The Decision was a HUGE mistake. No doubt about it. Again though, I truly think he got a) bad advice and b) thought it would make him look good by donating the money made off the show to charity. From all accounts this is a kid who is extremely loyal to his friends (his best friend is his agent), a teammate who encourages instead of scolds (there were even pieces criticizing him for this, saying he babies his teammates too much), and is a student of the game he loves.

When he's on TV, I am watching and I'm not changing the channel. I think he's the most gifted athletic specimen on the planet, with the brains to match. He's one of the hardest workers in the sport, just had arguably the most successful season in quite some time, killed off his demons, and is charming and fun to boot.

He's deserving of the award.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 01:47 AM

There have been plenty of years when SI's choice for this award has been either highly questionable or downright laughable, but I don't see how this is one of them.

LeBron was far and away the MVP of the regular season, he was the best player on the floor in just about every game his team won in the postseason, he had his most dominant performances when his team had its back against the wall, he beat his closest competitor (Durant) in the Finals, and he won a title with his main sidekick (Wade) clearly diminished from age/injury. I don't know what more people can expect from a guy in one year. Oh, and he won a Gold Medal too.

Bolt would've also been a completely acceptable choice, but SI rarely honors non-American, non- 4 major sport athletes with this award, unfortunately.

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 05:44 AM

I honestly don't understand how that tie works, from both fashionable and physical standpoints.

Other than that, he deserves the award.

#46 nighthob

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Posted 05 December 2012 - 09:31 PM

As you see from the second photo it's clearly being used to strangle him.

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Posted 07 December 2012 - 05:05 PM

Interesting that no one has mentioned the fact that Spain wins the Olympic Basketball gold medal without LBJ taking over in the 4th quarter of the gold medal game.

I have always rooted against LeBron, but I was damn happy he was on our side and chose to take charge in that game.

Edited by Gunfighter 09, 07 December 2012 - 05:06 PM.


#48 riboflav

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Posted 08 December 2012 - 07:11 PM

Intricate.


Not to mention my high school team does the same thing. I don't understand the big deal here.

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Posted 21 December 2012 - 06:24 PM

Lebron, despite playing a ton of minutes and being known as one of the premier defenders in the league, hasn't been called for a foul in two weeks! Two Weeks!! That's insane!!

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Posted 22 December 2012 - 01:35 AM

It has only been 5 games. Still a bit unbelievable, but the 2 weeks part is a bit of hyperbole.




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