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[RedOctober3829]

Miami plays the Patriots tough at home historically, so this will be another test. I don't believe in trap games, but with the Texans and 49ers coming up on the schedule they can't afford to be looking ahead.

[tims4wins]

Hats 'n t shirts game... squish the Fish.

[jsinger121]

It's a hat and tshirt game on Sunday. This won't be a trap game.

[Mystic Merlin]

Yeah, if you're worried about a 'trap' game, see @ JAX in about a month.

[RedOctober3829]

Yeah, if you're worried about a 'trap' game, see @ JAX in about a month.

Like I said, I don't believe in a trap game. But, their total focus has to be on this game because they will probably need to win out in order to get a bye. They are a young team, so you never know. I trust Belichick to keep them focused on the 60 minutes at hand.

[Rasputin]

953-2

[DrewDawg]

With the 2 coming on a bogus holding call in the end zone.

[Mystic Merlin]

No, no, no, it'll be intentional grounding.

[RedOctober3829]

Loss of Cunningham really hurts even if Jones is back. Now Francis, Trevor Scott, Deadrick(or even Bequette) have to step up and fill the void.

Edited by RedOctober3829, 26 November 2012 - 02:58 PM.

[Stitch01]

Just cant get worried about teams that are pretty unlikely to score 30 or have an elite front four. Miami doesnt check either box, so I expect the Pats win rather comfortably.

[pdaj]

Just cant get worried about teams that are pretty unlikely to score 30 or have an elite front four. Miami doesnt check either box, so I expect the Pats win rather comfortably.

There aren't many front fours in the NFL better than Starks, Solai, Wake, and Odrick ... and when you consider the additional rotation players, McDaniels and Vernon, the Dolphins defensive line is their clear strength. Unfortunately for Miami, however, they're an elite run stopping unit. Brady should be able to pass (relatively) comfortably from the 'gun all game long. The Dolphins secondary is in for a long day.

[Papo The Snow Tiger]

Flipper sucks.

[Mugsys Jock]

I prefer my tuna fish sandwiches to be made with dolphin-dangerous tuna.

Besides, porpoises always were the more intelligent, better-looking, and more sophisticated ones.

[Reverend]

Like I said, I don't believe in a trap game. But, their total focus has to be on this game because they will probably need to win out in order to get a bye. They are a young team, so you never know. I trust Belichick to keep them focused on the 60 minutes at hand.

Getcha Adderall ready.

[Turrable]

Flipper sucks.

You mean James?

[TheoShmeo]

Gumbel and Dierdorf have this game. They did the first Bills game too.

I posted this elsewhere but if anyone knows of a good place to watch the Pats-Fins game in Vegas with underage kids, I'd appreciate the knowledge.

Thanks Ferm, looks good!

Edited by TheoShmeo, 27 November 2012 - 09:50 AM.

[Ferm Sheller]

Gumbel and Dierdorf have this game. They did the first Bills game too.

I posted this elsewhere but if anyone knows of a good place to watch the Pats-Fins game in
Vegas with underage kids, I'd appreciate the knowledge.

Theo, google The Sporting House Bar and Grill (sorry, can't link). I think it used to be an ESPN bar.

EDIT: yes, very kid appropriate.

Edited by Ferm Sheller, 27 November 2012 - 09:28 AM.

[Briz]

This game will A) wrap up the division, B) keep them just outside of a first round bye and C) keep them ahead of Denver for the 3 seed. I can't imagine the pats will look past this game. I agree with Merlin. @ Jax looks more like a potential "trap" game.

Just Squish the Fish....

Miami plays the Patriots tough at home historically, so this will be another test. I don't believe in trap games, but with the Texans and 49ers coming up on the schedule they can't afford to be looking ahead.

[CaptainLaddie]

Theo, google The Sporting House Bar and Grill (sorry, can't link). I think it used to be an ESPN bar.

EDIT: yes, very kid appropriate.

I suppose you could also go to Yard House.

[rodderick]

Man, the "Miami always plays the Patriots and Tom Brady tough" myth really should be dead by now. Since the end of the 2006 season, the Patriots have only lost to the Dolphins once in eight games, and Tom Brady has a 112.6 passer rating against them. On the road, the Patriots are 3-1 (having dropped a game in which they melted down in the 4th quarter in '09), and Tom Brady's passer rating is a ridiculous 132.2. We have also squished the fish to the tune of 38-24, 41-14 and 49-28 on those three wins. Struggling against the Fins used to be the case between '01 and '06. It isn't anymore, not by a long shot.

Edited by rodderick, 27 November 2012 - 12:27 PM.

[MarcSullivaFan]

Man, the "Miami always plays the Patriots and Tom Brady tough" myth really should be dead by now. Since the end of the 2006 season, the Patriots have only lost to the Dolphins once in eight games, and Tom Brady has a 112.6 passer rating against them. On the road, the Patriots are 3-1 (having dropped a game in which they melted down in the 4th quarter in '09), and Tom Brady's passer rating is a ridiculous 132.2. We have also squished the fish to the tune of 38-24, 41-14 and 49-28 on those three wins. Struggling against the Fins used to be the case between '01 and '06. It isn't anymore, not by a long shot.

That's two losses--they rolled the Bradyless Pats in the 2008 wildcat game.

[Shelterdog]

Man, the "Miami always plays the Patriots and Tom Brady tough" myth really should be dead by now. Since the end of the 2006 season, the Patriots have only lost to the Dolphins once in eight games, and Tom Brady has a 112.6 passer rating against them. On the road, the Patriots are 3-1 (having dropped a game in which they melted down in the 4th quarter in '09), and Tom Brady's passer rating is a ridiculous 132.2. We have also squished the fish to the tune of 38-24, 41-14 and 49-28 on those three wins. Struggling against the Fins used to be the case between '01 and '06. It isn't anymore, not by a long shot.

This is fairly true but you have to assume it will be a struggle--divisional road games are almost always tough and the fins are a decent enough team.

[rodderick]

This is fairly true but you have to assume it will be a struggle--divisional road games are almost always tough and the fins are a decent enough team.

Sure, but then you have to consider the possibility of it being a tough game based on the fact that divisional games on the road are usually tough. So it has nothing to do with Miami. All I'm saying is that for about 6 years now the Patriots have handled the Dolphins pretty easily, and thus the "don't overlook the Fins, they always give us trouble!" line of thought shouldn't be prevalent anymore, because it, quite simply, is no longer true.

[rodderick]

That's two losses--they rolled the Bradyless Pats in the 2008 wildcat game.

Right, so they're actually 8-2 against them on the whole and 7-1 with Brady. Still pretty dominant.

[Ralphwiggum]

With a win on Sunday the Pats will clinch their 14th AFC East title since the Merger, tying the Dolphins who also have 14.

Just for reference, when Bill Belichick took over as Patriot head coach, Miami had won 12 division titles and the Pats 3.

[epraz]

And in the 2 seasons the Dolphins won the AFC East since Belichick took over, the Pats tied them for the best record in the division.

[Ralphwiggum]

Dolphins won the division straight out in 2000 (BB's first year) and the Pats did tie them in the Brady-less 2008 season. Pats tied the Jets (and Dolphins maybe, but the Jets won the division on tiebreakers) in '02.

[Carlos Cowart]

The Dolphins will be playing for pride for about a quarter and then will realize it's pointless and a hell of a lot easier to just play for a better spot in the draft.

Patriots give them a wedgie and stuff them in a locker. 42 - 17.

[abty]

Not sure how the Dolphins pull this off without the great Ted Ginn Jr. 38-17 Pats

[RedOctober3829]

Listening to the BB press conference, you'd think Miami is the best team in the league.

[TheoShmeo]

Listening to the BB press conference, you'd think [Miami] is the best team in the league.

This post could go in every game thread with only the bolded part changed.

[RedOctober3829]

This post could go in every game thread with only the bolded part changed.

Yeah definitely. It's also fascinating to hear him talk about how the slot WR and CB are totally different positions than outside.

[Mystic Merlin]

Yeah definitely. It's also fascinating to hear him talk about how the slot WR and CB are totally different positions than outside.

But Bill still won't tell us about injuries or suspensions. Woe is us. /Bedard

[Dogman2]

Yeah definitely. It's also fascinating to hear him talk about how the slot WR and CB are totally different positions than outside.

I was chastised years ago for calling a slot receiver different than a WR.

WHO IS LAUGHING NOW??!?!?!?!!!

[drleather2001]

I was chastised years ago for calling a slot receiver different than a WR.

WHO IS LAUGHING NOW??!?!?!?!!!

Wasn't that like...6 months ago?

[Mystic Merlin]

Ben Volin ‏@BenVolinPBP
#Dolphins practicing with loud crowd noise. Game is already sold out, which means a lot of Pats fans at Sun Life Stadium

Crazy. Also, practice participation notes: no Gronk/Jones/Mankins/Connolly/Vollmer/Zusevics. Notably, Edelman was present.

[rodderick]

Ben Volin ‏@BenVolinPBP
#Dolphins practicing with loud crowd noise. Game is already sold out, which means a lot of Pats fans at Sun Life Stadium

Crazy. Also, practice participation notes: no Gronk/Jones/Mankins/Connolly/Vollmer/Zusevics. Notably, Edelman was present.

So we are about 2 injuries short of playing Daniel Fells at LT, at this point. Jesus, that's almost an entire starting O-Line banged up.

Edited by rodderick, 28 November 2012 - 02:27 PM.

[loshjott]

This post could go in every game thread with only the bolded part changed.

For every team ever. It's not like this tactic is part of BB's particular genius.

[Dogman2]

Wasn't that like...6 months ago?

Early 2010, I think. In before BB publicly admitted it.

I smart.

[TheoShmeo]

For every team ever. It's not like this tactic is part of BB's particular genius.

I dunno. I've never heard any coach in any sport blow up the opposing team before a game as much as Belichick. Other coaches do it, but Bill defines over the top.

[Reverend]

Yeah definitely. It's also fascinating to hear him talk about how the slot WR and CB are totally different positions than outside.

But Bill still won't tell us about injuries or suspensions. Woe is us. /Bedard

Every question asked of BB that is not about some subtle technical or strategic aspect of the game--which are the only questions he actually answers--not only wastes his time but quite literally denies us of the opportunity to understand the game better.

Why the press hasn't figured this out utterly eludes me. I know the theory is that the press is lazy and wants the prefab narrative stuff, but how easy would it be to just go ahead and have the best football column in the country just regurgitating the smart shit Belichick says about football when asked the right questions? People confound me.

[Dogman2]

Every question asked of BB that is not about some subtle technical or strategic aspect of the game--which are the only questions he actually answers--not only wastes his time but quite literally denies us of the opportunity to understand the game better.

Why the press hasn't figured this out utterly eludes me. I know the theory is that the press is lazy and wants the prefab narrative stuff, but how easy would it be to just go ahead and have the best football column in the country just regurgitating the smart shit Belichick says about football when asked the right questions? People confound me.

How technical or strategic does a column need to be in order to lose readers?

[Reverend]

How technical or strategic does a column need to be in order to lose readers?

THEY JUST NEED TO IMPOSE THEIR WILL ON THE DOLPHINS THIS WEEK!!

[quint]

THEY JUST NEED TO IMPOSE THEIR WILL ON THE DOLPHINS THIS WEEK!!

Have you considered maybe the Dolphins simply want it more? Huh, smartguy? What then?

[Mystic Merlin]

I remember someone posted that after the Giants beat the Pats in SB 42.

Edited by Mystic Merlin, 28 November 2012 - 09:14 PM.

[Corsi]

The sprained ankle Patriots rookie defensive end Chandler Jones is dealing with will likely cause him to miss Sunday's game at Miami.

The injury is a mild high ankle sprain, not as severe as the one suffered by Aaron Hernandez in Week 2 against the Cardinals. Hernandez missed four games before returning for Weeks 6 and 7, then missed another three games before playing against the Jets last week.

http://www.csnne.com...253&feedID=3352

[phragle]

I'm already looking ahead to the 49ers. I'd be a bad Patriot I guess.

[Boston Brawler]

Coverage maps

http://www.the506.co.../2012/wk13.html

[sodenj5]

Resident Dolphins fan here. Just checking in to say although I fully expect New England to win, it's nice to have a game in December be relevant for once. Go Fins!

[loshjott]

Coverage maps

http://www.the506.co.../2012/wk13.html

Surprised to see so much of the country getting the game. And thrilled that DC is part of it.

It helps that the Skins are on Monday night and the Ravens at 4.