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[mabrowndog]

Let's get one thing out of the way up front. I fucking hate that sponsors have bastardized the names of so many longstanding bowl games, either augmenting the name with their pathetically stupid corporate moniker, or replacing the traditional name altogether. So I'm going to refer to them by their traditional name. Learn them and love them, for they represent our college football heritage. The only reasons I even added a sponsorship column, or will mention sponsors in this thread, are to prevent confusion and aid in the education of the oblivious.

There are currently 71 eligible teams for 70 available bowl slots. UConn and Pittsburgh can gain eligibility with wins next weekend, and would immediately gain bids to two games with Big East tie-ins (St. Petersburg and Birmingham). Right now I have Central Michigan left out of the picture. I'm guessing Ohio U (6th-best in MAC) and W. Kentucky (5th-best in Sun Belt) are the next two on the bubble.

2012-13 Bowl Games

Date	Time	Network	Traditional Bowl Name	Location	Sponsor	Total Payout	Conference Tie-Ins	Team 1	Tec Team 2	Result
12/15/12	01:00 PM	ESPN	New Mexico Bowl	Albuquerque NM	Gilran	$912,500	MWC #5 vs. Pac-12 #7	Nevada	Arizona
12/15/12	04:30 PM	ESPN	Potato Bowl	Boise ID	Famous Idaho Potatoes	$650,000	WAC #1 vs MAC #3	Utah St	Toledo
12/20/12	08:00 PM	ESPN	Poinsettia Bowl	San Diego CA	S.D. County Credit Union	$1,000,000	BYU vs. MWC #2	BYU	San Diego St
12/21/12	07:30 PM	ESPN	St. Petersburg Bowl	St. Petersburg FL	Beef 'O' Brady's	$1,075,000	Big East #6 vs. C-USA #3	Ball St*	C. Florida
12/22/12	12:00 PM	ESPN	New Orleans Bowl	New Orleans LA	R+L Carriers	$1,000,000	C-USA #4 vs. Sun Belt	E. Carolina	LA-Lafayette
12/22/12	03:30 PM	ESPN	Las Vegas Bowl	Las Vegas NV	Maaco	$2,200,000	MWC vs. Pac-12	Boise St	Washington
12/24/12	08:00 PM	ESPN	Hawaii Bowl	Honolulu HI	Sheraton	$1,300,000	C-USA vs. MWC #4	SMU*	Fresno St
12/26/12	07:30 PM	ESPN	Motor City Bowl	Detroit MI	Little Caesars Pizza	$1,500,000	MAC #1 vs. Big Ten #8	C. Michigan	W. Kentucky*
12/27/12	03:00 PM	ESPN	Military Bowl	Washington DC	Northrop Grumman	$2,000,000	Army / C-USA #5 vs. ACC #8 / MAC #4	Bowling Green*	San Jose St*
12/27/12	06:30 PM	ESPN	Queen City Bowl	Charlotte NC	Belk	$3,400,000	ACC #5 vs. Big East #3	Duke	Cincinnati
12/27/12	09:45 PM	ESPN	Holiday Bowl	San Diego CA	Bridgepoint Education	$4,150,000	Big 12 #5 vs. Pac-12 #3	Baylor	UCLA
12/28/12	02:00 PM	ESPN	Independence Bowl	Shreveport LA	AdvoCare V100	$2,300,000	ACC #7 vs. SEC #10	Ohio U*	LA-Monroe*
12/28/12	05:30 PM	ESPN	Sunshine Classic	Orlando FL	Russell Athletic	$4,550,000	ACC #3 vs. Big East #2	VA Tech	Rutgers
12/28/12	09:00 PM	ESPN	Texas Bowl	Houston TX	Meineke Car Care of Texas	$3,400,000	Big Ten #6 vs. Big 12 #6	Minnesota	Texas Tech
12/29/12	11:45 AM	ESPN	Armed Forces Bowl	Dallas TX	Bell Helicopter	$1,200,000	C-USA #2 vs. Air Force / MWC #3	Rice	Air Force
12/29/12	03:15 PM	ESPN	Pinstripe Bowl	Bronx NY	New Era	$3,600,000	Big East #4 vs. Big 12 #7	Syracuse	W. Virginia
12/29/12	04:00 PM	ESPN2	Emerald Bowl	San Francisco CA	Kraft Fight Hunger	$1,675,000	Navy / ACC #9 vs. Pac-12 #6	Navy	Arizona St
12/29/12	06:45 PM	ESPN	Alamo Bowl	San Antonio TX	Valero	$6,350,000	Big 12 #3 vs. Pac-12 #2	Texas	Oregon St
12/29/12	10:15 PM	ESPN	Copper Bowl	Tempe AZ	Buffalo Wild Wings	$6,650,000	Big 12 #4 vs. Big Ten #4/#5	TCU	Michigan St
12/31/12	12:00 PM	ESPN	Music City Bowl	Nashville TN	Franklin American Mortgage	$3,725,000	ACC #6 vs. SEC #7	NC State	Vanderbilt
12/31/12	02:00 PM	CBS	Sun Bowl	El Paso TX	Hyundai	$4,000,000	ACC #4 vs. Pac-12 #4	GA Tech	USC
12/31/12	03:30 PM	ESPN	Liberty Bowl	Memphis TN	AutoZone	$2,875,000	C-USA #1 vs. Big East / SEC #8/#9	Tulsa	Iowa St
12/31/12	07:30 PM	ESPN	Peach Bowl	Atlanta GA	Chick-Fil-A	$6,900,000	ACC #2 vs. SEC #5	Clemson	LSU
01/01/13	12:00 PM	ESPN2	Gator Bowl	Jacksonville FL	TaxSlayer.com	$5,450,000	Big Ten #4/#5 vs. SEC #6	Northwestern	Mississippi St
01/01/13	12:00 PM	ESPNU	Heart of Dallas Bowl	Dallas TX	PlainsCapital Bank	$2,200,000	Big Ten #7 vs. Big 12 / C-USA	Purdue	Oklahoma St
01/01/13	01:00 PM	ESPN	Hall of Fame Bowl	Tampa FL	Outback	$7,000,000	Big Ten #3 vs. SEC	Michigan	S. Carolina
01/01/13	01:00 PM	ABC	Tangerine Bowl	Orlando FL	Capital One	$8,500,000	Big Ten #2 vs. SEC #2	Nebraska	Georgia
01/01/13	05:00 PM	ESPN	Rose Bowl	Pasadena CA	Vizio	$36,000,000	Pac-12 #1 vs. Big Ten #1	Stanford	Wisconsin
01/01/13	08:30 PM	ESPN	Orange Bowl	Miami FL	Discover	$36,000,000	ACC #1 vs. BCS	Florida St	N. Illinois
01/02/13	08:30 PM	ESPN	Sugar Bowl	New Orleans LA	Allstate	$36,000,000	SEC #1 vs. BCS	Florida	Louisville
01/03/13	08:30 PM	ESPN	Fiesta Bowl	Glendale AZ	Tostitos	$36,000,000	Big 12 #1 vs. BCS	Kansas St	Oregon
01/04/13	08:00 PM	FOX	Cotton Bowl	Arlington TX	AT&T	$7,250,000	Big 12 vs. SEC	Oklahoma	Texas A&M
01/05/13	01:00 PM	ESPN	Birmingham Bowl	Birmingham AL	BBVA Compass	$1,925,000	Big East #5/C-USA vs. SEC #8/#9	Pittsburgh	Ole Miss
01/06/13	09:00 PM	ESPN	Mobile Bowl	Mobile AL	GoDaddy.com	$1,500,000	MAC #2 vs. Sun Belt #1	Kent St	Arkansas St
01/07/13	08:30 PM	ESPN	National Championship	Miami FL	Discover	$44,000,000	BCS #1 vs. BCS #2	Notre Dame	Alabama

Middle Tennessee??

The projections are obviously subject to change based on next weekend's game results, available expert analysis on Al Gore's internet, and input from posters here. Boldface type indicates a secured bid. An asterisk (*) denotes a team taking a spot where a conference didn't have enough teams to fill it.

Some notes:

* Ohio State, Penn State, Miami FL and North Carolina are bowl-ineligible despite having at least 6 wins.

* Georgia Tech hasn't technically qualified yet, but I'm including them since they'll likely be granted an eligibility waiver. Losing the ACC title game to FSU would put them at 6-7, and the waiver would be needed with a sub-.500 record. The NCAA is almost certain to grant it due to both UNC and Miami being out of the picture, plus there's precedent (UCLA was 6-6 heading into last year's Pac 12 championship).

* BCS Priority: The order of selection this year is Fiesta, Sugar, Orange. However, bowls that lose host conference champions to the BCS title game get to replace those teams before other selections are made, so the Sugar will pick first to replace Alabama.

* Once BCS slots are filled, the Tangerine (Capital One) picks from the remaining SEC teams. After that, the Cotton has first preference of remaining teams from the SEC West, while the Hall of Fame (Outback) has first choice from the SEC East. The Peach (Chick-Fil-A) and Gator are next in the SEC pecking order.

* BYU, Navy and Air Force have individual tie-ins to the Poinsettia, Emerald (Kraft) and Armed Forces bowls.

* Army and Hawaii failed to qualify for their tied-in slots at the Military and Hawaii bowls respectively. Army can be replaced by any other qualified at-large team, while the 3rd-place Mountain West team goes to Hawaii.

* Payout amounts are totals for both teams based on currently available information. Corrections and updates are welcome. In most cases, the two teams in a non-BCS bowl will receive unequal payouts, since the conferences have different methods by which bowl money is divided among its membership. Some bowl agreements call for higher payouts to one conference than the other, depending on such factors as which is the "host" conference.

Edited by mabrowndog, 02 December 2012 - 09:21 PM.

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[mabrowndog]

Here's the breakdown of eligible teams by conference:


Big 12 – 9
SEC – 9
Pac 12 – 8
MAC – 7
Big Ten – 7
ACC – 6
MWC – 5
Sun Belt – 5
C-USA – 5
WAC – 4
Big East – 4
Ind – 3

[mabrowndog]

Jason Kirk of SB Nation has a breakdown of a non-auto qualifier possibly crashing the BCS party, and he sees Northern Illinois in the Orange Bowl:

The Sugar gets first pick, due to having lost SEC champ Alabama to the title game. Florida will be a lock for a BCS spot, since they'll rank No. 3 (if they don't somehow end up ranking No. 2), and there's almost no chance the Sugar discards its SEC tie for anybody but Florida, especially not with future playoff partner Mike Slive to keep happy.

The Fiesta goes second, and needs only someone to pair with Big 12 champion Kansas State. Oregon should be ranked No. 4, is a national presence, offers the possibility of Chip Kelly's last college game and, you know, uniforms and offense. Having the top four teams in two bowls also teases the coming playoff setup.

Next is the Sugar again, and here's where things go sideways. There's only one BCS spot left over, after the Big East champ also makes it in. Either Oklahoma or someone from among Boise State, Kent State and Northern Illinois should take that spot. Looking at the rankings, I see the non-AQ cluster sitting right below the No. 16 mark they need to hit this year for automatic entry, with the MAC title game giving either Kent State or Northern Illinois the chance to vault Boise State (and take advantage of, say, Texas and UCLA losses next week). NIU has better computer numbers than the other two, advanced metrics favor them and Jordan Lynch really should be shown off to the world. It's not a lock by any means, but I have the Huskies going in. The Sugar thus picks Big East champ Louisville.

No, seriously, this could happen.

This leaves the Orange with Florida State vs. NIU, and no choice in the matter either. It would be a ratings disaster, but could be a fantastic game.

[mabrowndog]

‏@SBNationCFB
Nevada's going to the New Mexico Bowl, meaning six of 70 bowl bids are now set: http://sbn.to/WdbDyJ

[axx]

Jason Kirk of SB Nation has a breakdown of a non-auto qualifier possibly crashing the BCS party, and he sees Northern Illinois in the Orange Bowl:

Looks like the only one with a shot now is Kent State, as they are #17 in the BCS. Would UCLA losing to Stanford again be enough to get Kent State ahead?

[mabrowndog]

Looks like the only one with a shot now is Kent State, as they are #17 in the BCS. Would UCLA losing to Stanford again be enough to get Kent State ahead?

Possibly. But a Texas win over Kansas State would knock them right back out.

Had Iowa beaten Nebraska, Michigan would be in the Big Ten title game with a chance to jump over them as well.

[sachmoney]

We had to beat Ohio State to get into the BTCG even if Iowa had beaten Nebraska, MBD.

Edited by sachmoney, 25 November 2012 - 09:49 PM.

[mabrowndog]

We had to beat Ohio State to get into the BTCG even if Iowa had beaten Nebraska, MBD.

Yeah, I meant to include that tiny little prerequisite.

[Infield Infidel]

* Georgia Tech hasn't technically qualified yet, but I'm including them since they'll likely be granted an eligibility waiver. Losing the ACC title game to FSU would put them at 6-7, and the waiver would be needed with a sub-.500 record. The NCAA is almost certain to grant it due to both UNC and Miami being out of the picture, plus there's precedent (UCLA was 6-6 heading into last year's Pac 12 championship).

There's some debate as to whether GT will be granted a waiver, since there is now a rule (posted further below) addressing their situation.

However, this new protocol may affect the potential waiver, since there is now a rule that addresses how deserving a 6-7 team is in comparison with other teams that aren’t bowl eligible.
“There’s really no way to predict whether or not that would be viewed differently since we now have this protocol that we didn’t have last year that teams that aren’t eligible,” an NCAA spokesman told me Monday.

http://blogs.ajc.com...bowl-scenarios/

They changed a few rules this season
http://espn.go.com/c...-wins-5-7-teams

Under the new measure, if there are not enough bowl-eligible teams, or if a bowl cannot be filled by its conference affiliations, the open spots would be filled through a six-tier tiebreaking process.

Ordinarily, teams need to finish with a minimum .500 winning percentage with at least six wins -- five against other Football Bowl Subdivision teams -- to be bowl eligible. A sixth win against a Football Championship Subdivision team only counts if the FCS school meets scholarship requirements.
Now, first consideration will go to 6-6 teams with a win against any FCS teams, regardless of scholarships, then 6-6 teams with two wins against FCS schools.
A team that finishes 6-7 and loses in a conference championship would be next, followed by 6-7 teams that normally play a 13-team schedule, such as Hawaii and its home opponents.
Then bowls could then invite FCS teams making the move to FBS, if they have at least a 6-6 record.
Finally, a team with a top-five APR that finishes 5-7 could be selected

Edited by Infield Infidel, 25 November 2012 - 11:23 PM.

[Grin&MartyBarret]

It's really ridiculous that a two loss Rutgers team may end up in a BCS bowl over a 1 loss Kent State team that beat Rutgers.

[CSteinhardt]

Another fun possibility:

If the Big East needs a tiebreaker from Syracuse, Rutgers, and Louisville, it would be:

All three teams have either a 6-1 or 5-2 record and have each won one game and lost one game against the other tied teams in the mini-conference. In this case, the highest ranked team amongst the three earns the bid. If two of the three teams are tied for the highest ranking, the bid is earned by the team winning the head-to-head match up

But none of these teams are currently in the BCS standings, and it's not clear that Louisville would be with a win. This is the only tiebreaker, so then what?

[Infield Infidel]

considering Louisville is ranked in both polls, if they win they would probably be in the BCS poll, but if not the Big East could probably get an extended BCS results all the way to 30 to determine among the three teams (and potentially Cinci who would also be 5-2 with a win).

Edited by Infield Infidel, 26 November 2012 - 01:33 PM.

[WayBackVazquez]

Another fun possibility:

If the Big East needs a tiebreaker from Syracuse, Rutgers, and Louisville, it would be:

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But none of these teams are currently in the BCS standings, and it's not clear that Louisville would be with a win. This is the only tiebreaker, so then what?

The BCS only publishes the top 25, but they can still be calculated beyond that.

For example (while Palm may not have access to all the Harris and Coaches votes, the BCS does, and would certainly share with a member conference) http://www.cbssports...ll/rankings/bcs

EDIT: and actually it does look like he has access to the full voting.

Edited by WayBackVazquez, 26 November 2012 - 01:37 PM.

[SumnerH]

The BCS only publishes the top 25, but they can still be calculated beyond that.

For example (while Palm may not have access to all the Harris and Coaches votes, the BCS does, and would certainly share with a member conference) http://www.cbssports...ll/rankings/bcs

Holy cow, Duke is ahead of Pittsburgh. In football. Heck, Duke is ahead of Auburn.

[DukeSox]

Interesting how much the computers like Florida.

[mabrowndog]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN

SMU accepts bid to Hawaii Bowl, where it will likely play Fresno State.

Really surprised they didn't wrangle a better team than the Mustangs, and even more surprised it wasn't a West Coast school. San Jose State would've been an ideal match-up with the Spartans joining the MWC next year.

[Infield Infidel]

Interesting how much the computers like Florida.

not really. They are the only team to have played 5 top 15 teams, and beat 4 of them.

[DukeSox]

not really. They are the only team to have played 5 top 15 teams, and beat 4 of them.

not really. They are the only team to have played 5 top 15 teams, and beat 4 of them.

...compared to how they are the 3rd team in their conference in the human polls...

[Mr. Wednesday]

...compared to how they are the 3rd team in their conference in the human polls...

Human polls are frequently wrong. In other news, the sun will be rising in the East tomorrow.

[mabrowndog]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN
San Diego State accepts bid to Poinsettia Bowl, sources told @ESPN. Aztecs face BYU on Dec. 20

[mabrowndog]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN

SMU accepts bid to Hawaii Bowl, where it will likely play Fresno State.

Really surprised they didn't wrangle a better team than the Mustangs, and even more surprised it wasn't a West Coast school. San Jose State would've been an ideal match-up with the Spartans joining the MWC next year.

To follow up on this, I originally had SMU in New Orleans vs LA-Lafayette. Rice likely takes that slot, bringing some decent support from Houston. San Jose St probably goes to Dallas to play Air Force, preserving the "once-and-future MWC rivals" theme.

Edited by mabrowndog, 26 November 2012 - 06:39 PM.

[Infield Infidel]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN
San Diego State accepts bid to Poinsettia Bowl, sources told @ESPN. Aztecs face BYU on Dec. 20

SDSU is one of the three teams that might be involved in a tie for the MWC title

Kind of crazy, but maybe crazy like a fox, that the MWC HAS NO TIE BREAK procedure for three team ties. It allows their #1 bowl, the Las Vegas Bowl, to pick any of the three teams, but the conference might also get to claim their highest rated team the champion for BCS purposes. If Boise wins next week they might get to 16, which, being co-champion, allows them into the BCS

Edited by Infield Infidel, 26 November 2012 - 06:24 PM.

[shawnrbu]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN



Really surprised they didn't wrangle a better team than the Mustangs, and even more surprised it wasn't a West Coast school. San Jose State would've been an ideal match-up with the Spartans joining the MWC next year.

June Jones being SMU's head coach is probably the lure for the Hawai'i Bowl.

[mabrowndog]

June Jones being SMU's head coach is probably the lure for the Hawai'i Bowl.

Yup, that's got to be it. Good catch.

And according to Brett McMurphy, Rice's fate (and the rest of C-USA) will hinge on this weekend's championship game, and SJ State isn't under consideration for a match-up with Air Force:

@McMurphyESPN
If UCF wins C-USA, UCF to Liberty, Tulsa (Armed Forces), Rice (New Orleans), ECU (St. Pete)

@McMurphyESPN
If Tulsa wins C-USA TU to Liberty, Rice (Armed Forces), ECU (New Orleans), UCF (St. Pete)

No idea where this leaves the Military Bowl in DC, which is slated for the 5th-place team in C-USA to take Army's slot. I suppose the Spartans could be heading there.

Edited by mabrowndog, 26 November 2012 - 06:41 PM.

[mabrowndog]

More on GA Tech's situation

Industry sources told ESPN that "several conferences" are opposed to Georgia Tech getting the waiver, because it would take away a bowl spot from an eligible 6-6 team.

As one of Brett's followers pointed out on Twitter, the Yellow Jackets can thank Miami's fuck-up and self-imposed ban for possibly costing them a bowl bid. Had they just been able to finish the season 6-6 with no conference championship berth, they'd be in with no questions asked and one of the more attractive targets for southern bowls.

Edited by mabrowndog, 26 November 2012 - 06:52 PM.

[mabrowndog]

Oklahoma can only automatically qualify for the Sugar Bowl is with a win over TCU plus Texas beating KSU. Should that not come to pass, Oregon would probably get the slot. So the Sooners are trying to work a trade of bowl slots between the Sugar & Fiesta.

newsOK.com

Big 12 spokesman Bob Burda said he had heard those “rumblings” too.

“As you know, there is a provision within the BCS that once the selections are made, you can trade matchups,” Burda said.

A similar switch was proposed in 2007, when the Sooners won the Big 12 title and were headed to the Fiesta Bowl for the second straight season. Kansas, 11-1 and highly ranked, was an at-large pick of the Orange Bowl.

Bowl officials discussed an OU/KU swap but ultimately stayed with the assignments.

“At that time, the (conference) commissioners didn't have an appetite to move a champion out of a contracted bowl,” Burda said. “The landscape has changed. There are new faces around the table, so it would be hard to guess what their preference would be.”

A bowl source said bowls still prefer to have the champion stay where they're contractually assigned.

An OU/Sugar swap was discussed a couple of weeks ago, when it appeared Kansas State would run the table and make the national championship game. In that scenario, the Fiesta could have worked a deal with the Sugar by which the Sooners played in New Orleans and an SEC team would have played in Phoenix, a rarity for the Fiesta.

But in that scenario, OU would not have been the Big 12 champ and would have been at-large selection for either the Fiesta or the Sugar.

Of course, Kent State could make it all moot. If 17th-ranked Kent State wins the Mid-American Conference title game Friday night and jumps one spot in the BCS rankings, the Golden Flashes would earn an automatic BCS bowl berth.

No way would the Fiesta then be interested in a trade of any kind, since the offer would be Kent State or the Big East champ (Louisville or Rutgers).

[McBride11]

Dumb question (and sorry if I missed the answer), those initial scenarios assume Ala wins the game this week? Cause if Ga wins I figure the Sugar would loovvee Ala.

Great work, thanks Madbrown.

Edited by McBride11, 26 November 2012 - 10:51 PM.

[Hendu's Gait]

Dumb question (and sorry if I missed the answer), those initial scenarios assume Ala wins the game this week? Cause if Ga wins I figure the Sugar would loovvee Ala.

Great work, thanks Madbrown.

Sugar is taking a 1-loss #3 by then Florida team, no questions asked.

[McBride11]

Ahhh yesss, that makes more sense. It was a long day yesterday. But of course poor Nick doesn't think that's fair!

http://espn.go.com/c...aban-let-switch

[RingoOSU]

Oklahoma can only automatically qualify for the Sugar Bowl is with a win over TCU plus Texas beating KSU. Should that not come to pass, Oregon would probably get the slot. So the Sooners are trying to work a trade of bowl slots between the Sugar & Fiesta.

newsOK.com

If they really don't want to go to Arizona they should just lose to TCU.

[DrewDawg]

I hope I get to embarrass myself in a college bowl pick 'em again. I know someone usually sets that up and there's even a trophy.

So, yes, I'm asking someone else to do work.

I'm also called in "sick" today, so that's my theme for the day.

[mabrowndog]

Last year's thread was started by loshjott, the great and powerful.

Regarding the bling:

Yammer bought the first trophy. I won the first year and bought the 2nd one for that year's winner. After that I think the system broke down...

I'll spring for it this year, so if you go back-to-back, it's yours!

Edited by mabrowndog, 29 November 2012 - 10:05 AM.

[loshjott]

Last year's thread was started by loshjott, the great and powerful.

Regarding the bling:

Yeah, I'll set it up again if there is interest.

I've done it the last couple years and even though we get a good number of entrants, there is far too little smack talk in the thread, IMO, to make it interesting.

I was going to skip it this year but I'll set it up because there seems to be interest.

Did I say I would buy the trophy last year? I guess I did.

[mabrowndog]

As I expected, the NCAA has granted GA Tech a bowl eligibility waiver.

And the MAC is not happy.

[mabrowndog]

Stewart Mandel ‏@slmandel
I will be posting revised Bowl Projections later today. Main change: No Texas-Texas A&M Cotton Bowl. Not happening.

[mabrowndog]

Yeah, I'll set it up again if there is interest.

I've done it the last couple years and even though we get a good number of entrants, there is far too little smack talk in the thread, IMO, to make it interesting.

I was going to skip it this year but I'll set it up because there seems to be interest.

Did I say I would buy the trophy last year? I guess I did.

If you set it up, I suppose I'd enter. But no worries if you don't.

And forget the trophy. Yammer's on sabbatical from this place, and the only real allure of winning it was to be able to shove it up his ass.

[Plantiers Wart]

I'd be in - as defending champ, I have a title to defend. No trophy, but a title....

[mabrowndog]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN
Not official until Sunday, but Johnny Football's going to Disney World. Capital One Bowl will pick Texas A&M

[WayBackVazquez]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN
Not official until Sunday, but Johnny Football's going to Disney World. Capital One Bowl will pick Texas A&M

That's gotta be assuming Bama wins. I can't believe they'd pick TAMU over Alabama . Unless they *really* don't want to see a Bama-Michigan rematch. (Neither do I.)

So if Alabama and Nebraska both lose, I'd think that's a no-brainer matchup, instead of TAMU.

Edited by WayBackVazquez, 30 November 2012 - 02:31 PM.

[mabrowndog]

If UGA wins, the Sugar picks next from the SEC pool. Not sure if one-loss Florida would climb above them in the BCS at that point, but Bama-Oklahoma would be just as appealing as Gators-Sooners.

[WayBackVazquez]

If UGA wins, the Sugar picks next from the SEC pool. Not sure if one-loss Florida would climb above them in the BCS at that point, but Bama-Oklahoma would be just as appealing as Gators-Sooners.

I'm pretty sure Florida will play in the Sugar come what may in the SEC CG. "A team which finishes third in the final BCS standings will automatically be awarded a spot in a BCS bowl if they are an at-large team and not an AQ BCS conference champion. If the third team is a conference champion, the fourth-place team will also be given this automatic eligibility if not selected previously." Florida will either be 3rd; or 4th with Oregon 3rd, so it should be in.

Edited by WayBackVazquez, 30 November 2012 - 02:58 PM.

[mabrowndog]

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN
As @D1scourse reported, San Jose State (10-2) headed to Military Bowl Dec. 27

Brett McMurphy ‏@McMurphyESPN
RT @bcondotta: Sarkisian also says everything he is hearing is Washington is headed to Las Vegas Bowl

Brad Stephens ‏@CHHBradStephens
Detroit or nothing for #WKU.

That last tweet refers to Western Kentucky & the Motor City Bowl (Little Caesars).

Edited by mabrowndog, 30 November 2012 - 02:47 PM.

[Al Zarilla]

Heaviest rains of the year by far in Palo Alto this week and continuing light rains probable throughout the game (UCLA at Stanford at 5 Pacific tonight). Last year the new Stanford field was slippery from just light rains some days before a late November game. Much bigger test tonight. Let's see if they've built in good drainage or not.

[mabrowndog]

I'm pretty sure Florida will play in the Sugar come what may in the SEC CG..

You're probably right. The CapOne folks must see having the likely Heisman winner and the nation's #3 offense as a better drawing card than either UGA or Bama, and I don't blame them.

If Bama wins and U-F goes to NO, the Cotton gets first dibs from the West division and hat probably means LSU vs Texas. Then the HOF/Outback picks, and I'd have to think Spurrier and the Gamecocks (who destroyed UGA) head there. The surprise winner in all this ends up being the Peach Bowl, which despite being 6th in the SEC pecking order will wind up with the hometown Dawgs against Clemson.

If UGA wins, Bama probably goes to the Cotton. The HOF would still get SC, and LSU would head to Atlanta.

Edited by mabrowndog, 30 November 2012 - 03:19 PM.

[Old Fart Tree]

It's just goddamn insane to me the way the national title is shaking out this year, and it's just further proof that the playoff is long, long overdue. Look, ND is the worst #1 team I can remember, the worst ever to play for a national title. I am a massive homer, but you'll never convince me that their "victory" over Stanford was anything other than a colossal screw job.

That said, if you're undefeated, you deserve to play for the title. They're technically undefeated, so sadly, that crappy squad from South Bend gets to play for the championship. Fine.

But the other team that gets to play for it is an SEC team by default? That's some real bullshit. No one is going to convince me that Oregon doesn't deserve that berth. Which one loss team has the best loss? It has to be the one that lost in OT to Stanford because their kicker shanked a FG, right? And trust me, I *do not like* the Oregon Ducks. They're absolutely every bit as corrupt as all the SEC teams, and their uniforms are ugly. But Christ, how the fuck are they not the #2 team?

In a perfect world, Oregon is playing the SEC champion for the title, because ND doesn't deserve to be in that title game. But since they have to be, it should absolutely 100% be ND/OU. I firmly believe OU is the best team in the country (and that my Cardinal was lucky to beat them) and they're not going to get a chance to play for the title because of SEC FIGJAM. That's bullshit.

Edit: As long as Stanford is smelling roses in eight hours, I guess I don't care that much. I just think OU is getting the fist and the watch.

Edited by Old Fart Tree, 30 November 2012 - 05:34 PM.

[mabrowndog]

In response to the GA Tech waiver, the MAC strikes a deal with the Military Bowl to ensure one of their teams gets the slot opposite San Jose State. I already had Toledo penciled in there.

[mabrowndog]

@EyeOnCFB
UL-Monroe has accepted its first bowl bid in school history. Warhawks headed to Independence http://cbsprt.co/SnU4N7 Projected to face La. Tech

[WayBackVazquez]

Posted this in the Michigan thread -- because of Nebraska's egglaying in the B10 CG, Michigan, having more than 1 win fewer than Nebraska, can't be picked. The Capital One will take NU after Nebraska's stinker last year. The Outback would prefer Michigan, but it too is constrained by the 1-win rule, so Nebraska goes there to get dominated by South Carolina. So Michigan -- the Big Ten's highest BCS-ranked team -- will end up at the conference's #4 Bowl, the Gator against Mississippi State.

Edited by WayBackVazquez, 01 December 2012 - 10:07 PM.

[Freddy Linn]

It's just goddamn insane to me the way the national title is shaking out this year, and it's just further proof that the playoff is long, long overdue. Look, ND is the worst #1 team I can remember, the worst ever to play for a national title. I am a massive homer, but you'll never convince me that their "victory" over Stanford was anything other than a colossal screw job.

That said, if you're undefeated, you deserve to play for the title. They're technically undefeated, so sadly, that crappy squad from South Bend gets to play for the championship. Fine.

But the other team that gets to play for it is an SEC team by default? That's some real bullshit. No one is going to convince me that Oregon doesn't deserve that berth. Which one loss team has the best loss? It has to be the one that lost in OT to Stanford because their kicker shanked a FG, right? And trust me, I *do not like* the Oregon Ducks. They're absolutely every bit as corrupt as all the SEC teams, and their uniforms are ugly. But Christ, how the fuck are they not the #2 team?

In a perfect world, Oregon is playing the SEC champion for the title, because ND doesn't deserve to be in that title game. But since they have to be, it should absolutely 100% be ND/OU. I firmly believe OU is the best team in the country (and that my Cardinal was lucky to beat them) and they're not going to get a chance to play for the title because of SEC FIGJAM. That's bullshit.

Edit: As long as Stanford is smelling roses in eight hours, I guess I don't care that much. I just think OU is getting the fist and the watch.

I love this post, even more so because of the FIGJAM cherry on top. Bravo.

[mabrowndog]

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