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#1 Orel Miraculous

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:06 PM

Ryu Hyun-Jin, possibly the best pitcher in the KBO, has hired Scott Boras and will be posted this offseason.

According to B-Ref, he's a 6 ft 2 in, 215 lb left-handed pitcher. He throws a fastball around 90 mph (tops out at 93 mph), a decent curveball,a slider, and a deceptive changeup. Scouts say that the changeup is his best pitch and is a legitimate out-pitch at the big league level. He had Tommy John in high school and has lead the KBO in strikeouts 5 times in 7 seasons.

I'm sure we won't get up to Darvish money here, but a 6 ft 2 lefty strikeout pitcher? Sign me up.

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Edited by Orel Miraculous, 29 October 2012 - 02:07 PM.


#2 goyangfc


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 03:09 PM

He is to be posted right away on 1 November, according to the Korean sources I read today.

#3 O Captain! My Captain!

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:16 PM

He's 25, so he's probably not going to add anything to that fastball velocity, and probably isn't going to get too much better, though he's still young enough to sign a contract where you're not paying for his decline phase. Wikipedia has him averaging about 90 on the fastball, so his changeup is really key unless he either locates the fastball really well, has good movement, or has some deception in his motion. He hasn't walked very many (2.7 bb/9), but obviously MLB players are likely to have much better pitch recognition and be much more selective than KBO players. How does the KBO's level of competition compare to MLB or perhaps NPB?

#4 Orel Miraculous

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 04:26 PM

He's 25, so he's probably not going to add anything to that fastball velocity, and probably isn't going to get too much better, though he's still young enough to sign a contract where you're not paying for his decline phase. Wikipedia has him averaging about 90 on the fastball, so his changeup is really key unless he either locates the fastball really well, has good movement, or has some deception in his motion. He hasn't walked very many (2.7 bb/9), but obviously MLB players are likely to have much better pitch recognition and be much more selective than KBO players. How does the KBO's level of competition compare to MLB or perhaps NPB?


It's been described as roughly equivalent to AA ball, but those equivalencies aren't very useful IMO, because of the obvious fact that if a player dominates AA, he gets moved up to AAA, whereas if a player dominates the KBO, NPB, or Cuban Serie Nacional, there's nowhere else for him to go. So while the talent level at AA is relatively constant, in leagues like the KBO it's much more variable. I mentioned this last year when Cespedes defected. Skeptics pointed out that the Cuban league is regarded as A+ or AA. While it might be true that most of the players in Cuba couldn't hack it above AA, it turned out that Cespedes was one of the best players in the world.

It's the same situation in Korea. The league has players who wouldn't rise above A ball here, but others who could be amongst the best in MLB. Evaluation of players in these foreign leagues really has to come down to scouting rather than statistical analysis.

#5 Orel Miraculous

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:07 AM

Posting deadline has passed. Cubs are confirmed as a bidder, Rangers rumored as well. Theo back to his old tricks.

Edit: No word on whether the Sox bid, but according to Abraham's blog today, the team has "done a lot of work on him and knows him well."

Edited by Orel Miraculous, 09 November 2012 - 10:57 AM.


#6 soxhop411

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:27 PM


Dan@MyKBO

OSEN is reporting that a still unknown MLB team bid $25,737,737.33 for Ryu Hyun-jin and the Hanwha Eagles have accepted.


#7 TheGoldenGreek33

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:35 PM

Cubbies win.

edit: Oh, Twitter.

Edited by TheGoldenGreek33, 09 November 2012 - 09:07 PM.


#8 soxhop411

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:57 PM

Cubbies win.


Are you sure?

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According to @JonHeymanCBS the Cubs DID NOT win the bid on Ryu


#9 Tyrone Biggums


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:58 PM

10 bucks says its Duquette, remember which team did the most work in Korea last offseason. He loved the pacific rim when he was the GM here.

#10 pjr

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:14 PM

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Speculating that the winning team for the Hyun-Jin Ryu bid is the Texas Ranger. $25,737,737.33 was winning bid. 737 is Austin, TX area code

#11 Tyrone Biggums


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:23 PM

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Speculating that the winning team for the Hyun-Jin Ryu bid is the Texas Ranger. $25,737,737.33 was winning bid. 737 is Austin, TX area code


This would be interesting, I've seen this combo already speculated. Only other team than the Orioles that I could see winning this bid

#12 pjr

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:28 PM

10 bucks says its Duquette, remember which team did the most work in Korea last offseason. He loved the pacific rim when he was the GM here.


According to Evan Grant it's not Texas.

#13 Orel Miraculous

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:51 PM

Dan@MyKBO
OSEN is reporting that a still unknown MLB team bid $25,737,737.33 for Ryu Hyun-jin and the Hanwha Eagles have accepted.


If this number is true, I'm pretty sure it would be the fourth highest posting fee ever, just a shade under $26,000,000 the MFY's paid for the Pride of Trenton, and way more than the Brewers paid for Aoki and his +3 WAR last year. Interesting to see that there are front offices who think so highly of the KBO.

Edited by Orel Miraculous, 09 November 2012 - 08:54 PM.


#14 pjr

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:03 PM

Olney saying other teams suspect it's the Dodgers.

Edited by pjr, 09 November 2012 - 09:04 PM.


#15 Tyrone Biggums


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:10 PM

If this number is true, I'm pretty sure it would be the fourth highest posting fee ever, just a shade under $26,000,000 the MFY's paid for the Pride of Trenton, and way more than the Brewers paid for Aoki and his +3 WAR last year. Interesting to see that there are front offices who think so highly of the KBO.


Baltimores success with Chen probably has a lot to do with it. Makes you think about the emphasis on scouting and how some teams don't look past N.America and the D.R. to find talent.

#16 Corsi


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:19 PM

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Speculating that the winning team for the Hyun-Jin Ryu bid is the Texas Ranger. $25,737,737.33 was winning bid. 737 is Austin, TX area code


And the Rangers' relation to Austin is, what, exactly?

#17 pjr

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:27 PM

And the Rangers' relation to Austin is, what, exactly?

None that I am aware of .

#18 Tyrone Biggums


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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:27 PM

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#Orioles were not one of the teams to submit a bid for Korean LHP Hyun-Jin Ryu, according to an industry source
I was wrong...odd it seemed like this was right up the Duke's alley

Edited by Tyrone Biggums, 09 November 2012 - 09:28 PM.


#19 Orel Miraculous

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 09:44 PM

Baltimores success with Chen probably has a lot to do with it. Makes you think about the emphasis on scouting and how some teams don't look past N.America and the D.R. to find talent.


Chen spent his entire professional career in Japan though. The KBO is widely considered to be at least one step below NPB and no Korean pro has ever generated anything like this.

#20 singaporesoxfan

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Posted 09 November 2012 - 10:12 PM

Aren't 3 and 7 supposed to be lucky numbers in Korea?

That or the 737 is a reference to the Boeing plane, ergo the winners must be from Washington state ie the Mariners. (Note: I'm being facetious)

#21 Corsi


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Posted 10 November 2012 - 11:02 AM

MLB confirms that #Dodgers have won rights to Korean LHP Ryu. Now have 30 days to sign him.

https://twitter.com/...295792950284288

#22 Rough Carrigan


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 06:52 PM

Does KPB use a baseball the same size and with the same type of covers as MLB? I remember that those were significant issues with Matsuzaka.

#23 oumbi

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Posted 11 November 2012 - 08:58 PM

Aren't 3 and 7 supposed to be lucky numbers in Korea?

That or the 737 is a reference to the Boeing plane, ergo the winners must be from Washington state ie the Mariners. (Note: I'm being facetious)


no, they are not.

#24 TheShynessClinic


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Posted 11 November 2012 - 10:35 PM

Austin is 512, anyways.

#25 LeftyTG

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 10:54 AM

Austin is 512, anyways.

not that it matters, but 737 is a new area code being phased into the Austin area, as 512 numbers are about exhausted.

#26 soxhop411

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:04 PM

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#dodgers sign ryu

#27 goyangfc


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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:45 PM

Ryu training for life in LA:

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Edited by goyangfc, 27 December 2012 - 11:45 PM.


#28 nvalvo

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 10:49 PM

Ryu training for life in LA:

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I guess he's read about Tim Lincecum's unorthodox methods of training.

#29 LondonSox

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Posted 27 December 2012 - 11:48 PM

In and out, you try and resist the awesome




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