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London Calling--Patriots vs. Rams


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#51 RedOctober3829


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:25 AM

@AdamSchefter: Aaron Hernandez's ankle hasn't responded to treatment. He's struggling to cut, won't play Sunday vs. Rams. Bye next week



#52 Eck'sSneakyCheese

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:33 AM

I guess this means we see Shiancoe? Or is Fells going to be enough opposite Gronk.

#53 Mystic Merlin


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:36 AM

If they can't absolutely torch the middle of the field (STL is allowing like a 71 comp pct on balls in between the numbers), even without Hernandez, then they should be ashamed.

#54 RedOctober3829


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:39 AM

Hernandez isn't the only one who stayed back: told that Patrick Chung (shoulder) did not make the trip either


https://twitter.com/...869237193302016

When can we trust this guy to stay healthy????

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:41 AM

https://twitter.com/...869237193302016

When can we trust this guy to stay healthy????


February - August

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:42 AM

Chung's been awful when he's on the field, so he's no great loss.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:48 AM

https://twitter.com/...869237193302016

When can we trust this guy to stay healthy????


He's been hurt so much over the past year that it's hard to be sure when if ever we'll be able to trust his health again.

The ironic thing is he was never hurt in college, he played 16 games his rookie year,14 his second, and the first 7 of his third season. So he missed two games in 6 and a half seasons then misses 9 out of his next 19 games (and a good chunk of a tenth game).

I'm not trying to Eric Van cherrypick, it's just crazy to me that he goes from never hurt to always hurt.

Edited by Shelterdog, 26 October 2012 - 11:51 AM.


#58 Super Nomario

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:04 PM

There were reports earlier in the week that LB Mike Rivera was in the locker room. I never heard about a corresponding roster move; did anyone else?

#59 Shelterdog


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:07 PM

There were reports earlier in the week that LB Mike Rivera was in the locker room. I never heard about a corresponding roster move; did anyone else?


No, apparently he was just in for a try out.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:18 PM


Jeff Howe@jeffphowe

The Patriots have released their entire inactive list: Hernandez, Chung, Gregory, Bolden, White, Dowling, Scott.



#61 Super Nomario

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:19 PM

Ha, I was just typing my "guess the inactives" list when this came in. These are all the guys who didn't practice yesterday, so pretty obvious.

EDIT: I guess Chung did practice yesterday but we already knew he didn't travel with the team.

Edited by Super Nomario, 26 October 2012 - 12:22 PM.


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:25 PM

BTW, did anyone get the impression that the Pats were surprised Chung had to be deactivated last week? The time out because they were missing the personal protector on the punt team, the 10 men on the field in the goal line set; it seemed like they were kind of scrambling last minute.

#63 dcmissle


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:32 PM

Per Rotoworld:



Unlikely he will play, but I wouldn't put it completely out yet.


Amendola listed as "questionable" on injury report, which is construed as 50/50.

As for Chung, nothing surprises me anymore. NASA the other day was reported to have dicovered a Black Hole. We beat NASA to the punch. All of us here recognize well that the defensive backfield for this team has been a Black Hole for a half dozen years, consuming all manner of matter in the form of draft picks, payroll and so forth, and yielding nothing.

#64 Ed Hillel


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:39 PM

WTF happened to Dowling? Christ.

Need at least 30 this week, Tom.

Edited by Ed Hillel, 26 October 2012 - 12:40 PM.


#65 Shelterdog


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:40 PM

WTF happened to Dowling? Christ.


He had some kind of thigh injury late in the 4th last week.

#66 Super Nomario

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:42 PM

WTF happened to Dowling? Christ.

Need at least 30 this week, Tom.

Are these two thoughts related?

#67 Shelterdog


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:54 PM

Are these two thoughts related?


I hope not but the fact that the dime is going to be DMC/Wilson/Denard/Arrnington/Moore and Cole or Ebner is not good.

#68 jsinger121


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:29 PM

Glassi Dowling to the IR. We can now label him a bust.

#69 Ed Hillel


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:40 PM

Are these two thoughts related?


Not wholly.

Basically, what Shelter said. Our secondary sucked to begin with and now we're down three guys.

#70 Mystic Merlin


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:42 PM

Not wholly.

Basically, what Shelter said. Our secondary sucked to begin with and now we're down three guys.


Sure, but what should make anyone believe Dowling was any good when healthy? I don't care how 'long' he is, I'll take my chances with Cole.

#71 ifmanis5


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:57 PM

Lloyd is now questionable with a knee. Gronk and Welker are gonna be busy.

#72 Ed Hillel


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:00 PM

lol wut

#73 phragle


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:02 PM

Sure, but what should make anyone believe Dowling was any good when healthy? I don't care how 'long' he is, I'll take my chances with Cole.


You say that now...

#74 Ed Hillel


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:04 PM

Today has been 2 parts sad, and one part comical. Pretty loud for a Friday.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:08 PM

Lloyd is now questionable with a knee. Gronk and Welker are gonna be busy.


I can't take anything away from the injury report. If he's practicing I'd assume he's a full go until I see otherwise.

#76 Super Nomario

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:18 PM

Injury concerns:
- Offensive skill players: Hernandez is out. Lloyd, Welker, Edelman, and Gronkowski are all questionable. They'll all be active, and presumably all play, but how close to 100%? Hey, at least Hoomanawanui is off the injury report. Bolden also out, though the other RB are OK.
- Offensive line: No one's out, though Mankins, Vollmer, and McDonald are all questionable. Mankins was inactive last week. Is he better now, or are they just other guys who are more hurt? Connolly barely played last week but that appears to be illness-related; he wasn't on the injury report this week.
- Secondary: Chung, Gregory, and Dowling out. Moore is questionable. Likely another week of McCourty at safety again.
- Special Teams: White, Scott, Bolden, and Chung all play at least two ST units normally but are out this week. Is Tarpinian ready to play a big ST role? Can Wilson or McCourty play on multiple ST units and still play every snap on D? Can questionable guys Edelman, Moore, and Gronkowski too hurt to take bigger roles in this area?

#77 BigSoxFan


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 02:29 PM

Once again, this is another game that calls for...MOAR RIDLEY.

#78 j44thor

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:17 PM

STL has a pretty stout run D. Time for the no-huddle quick passing game this week. Wes and Gronk should combine for 20+ catches.

#79 Eck'sSneakyCheese

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:35 PM

So, it looks like they're an injury away from Edelman at DB... I get the feeling we're all going to have nightmares about Chris Givens Sunday night.

#80 Bosox4416

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:39 PM

I'm sorry, but is there any way we can change the title of this forum from Game Threats to game Threads!?

#81 Salva135


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:55 PM

Does anyone know who they're sending over for an officiating crew?

#82 jsinger121


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:58 PM

Does anyone know who they're sending over for an officiating crew?


I think Walt Coleman is doing the game.

#83 Turrable

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 05:59 PM

Does anyone know who they're sending over for an officiating crew?


Nantz/Simms.

Though it would kick ass to have Martin Tyler do it.

#84 Ed Hillel


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 07:17 PM

I think Walt Coleman is doing the game.


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#85 estreetfan

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 11:36 PM

Cut the shit. Kill 'em.

#86 bsj


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 07:30 AM

I really think the NFL is doing itself a disservice by not making this a national game. I am stuck watching the jets. Not sure the way around that given the time difference. Making it a triple header? Making sure to give one of the ny teams a prime time game? Making this an event would be to the benefit of possible expansion going forward.

#87 Turrable

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:13 AM

It is the national game, that's the funny part. The broadcast rules are that fucked up.

Edit- unless you meant make it the SNF/MNF game, which would require starting at 1am GMT

Edited by Turrable, 27 October 2012 - 08:15 AM.


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 09:22 AM

So, is it a coincidence that the best EPL game of the week will be played in London at a time that overlaps with this game?

#89 singaporesoxfan

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 10:39 AM

Found this funny, about the Fan Rally in Trafalgar Square:

@jeffphowe: It was hilarious. The whole crowd chanted, "Spike the mike!" over and over until Gronk wound up and deafened Trafalgar Square.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:08 PM

anyone else going to the game? i'll be there. Would love to see the Pats at a media session or fan event. I live in Dublin now so this will be the first time seeing them live in a few years.

btw, they definately will not be acclimated to the time zone. Rule of thumb is 1 day for every hour difference. it's an afternoon game though so they should be just fine.


I went to the game back in '09. I'd strongly recommend going to the Green Man Pub for pre game tailgating. Quick walk from Wembley and the crowd there was great.

#91 Jnai


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:23 PM

Lots of pats gear seen today around London. Not a single rams jersey or hat. Unless they fuck with the pa, should be essentially a home game.

#92 Jnai


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:24 PM

Also, there is an nfl sponsored tailgate pregame free for ticket holders.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:28 PM

It is the national game, that's the funny part. The broadcast rules are that fucked up.

Edit- unless you meant make it the SNF/MNF game, which would require starting at 1am GMT


No, meant making the American Bowl a special event, possibly a 10am kickoff in the us...the entire country sees this, them the normal 1p 4p games. Or, having it on a Saturday. Or, back loading the day so this is the only 1p game.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

Lots of pats gear seen today around London. Not a single rams jersey or hat. Unless they fuck with the pa, should be essentially a home game.

The Pats are probably the most popular team in the UK and Europe as a whole, mainly because many fans started following the game in the last 10 years and guess who the best team is.

Most other people support a team that was good in the 80s - the Niners, Raiders, Dolphins, Redskins, Bears and Giants all have their fanbases over here too. The Rams probably aren't as bad as the Jaguars (I'm expecting that game to be something like 90% 49er fans) and I did see one or two jerseys yesterday, but that's all.

I will second the Green Man as a good place to have a pre-game drink. Also if you're going take the train from Marylebone station, it's a lot less bonkers.

Edited by Spacemans Bong, 27 October 2012 - 02:59 PM.


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 04:02 PM

Booo... I get SD on sunday..... Guess its a stream for me...

#96 Turrable

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 04:40 PM

No, meant making the American Bowl a special event, possibly a 10am kickoff in the us...the entire country sees this, them the normal 1p 4p games. Or, having it on a Saturday. Or, back loading the day so this is the only 1p game.


If they're going to shift the schedule for it then they're going to have to start scheduling marquee matchups like Ravens-Steelers or Packers-Giants and I don't think the league wants to ship those games overseas.

Question about the home field advantage, even if the place is full of Pats fans, do they know to be quiet when the offense is on the field? Seems like a weird American football quirk that would be hard to pick up on.

#97 Mystic Merlin


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 04:43 PM

It's not a trivial question - Belichick commented this week on how the chants and cheers are mistimed to an NFL game, at least to the extent you're using American crowds as a standard. He said that in the '09 game vs. TB that he'd hear roars from the crowd while his attention wasn't on the field action and mistakenly think something had happened. I'm not sure that affects the offense's ability to function, but it makes for a weird experience for the coaching staff and players.

#98 Super Nomario

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 04:46 PM

Per Reiss, Wilfork is sick, added to the injury report as Probable.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 06:25 PM

I'm sorry, but is there any way we can change the title of this forum from Game Threats to game Threads!?


I have been wondering about this as well. Was it a typo or is there an actually threat?

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:21 AM

A friend who is in London for the game advises that the access to the players in the lobby of their hotel and otherwise is basically unfettered and that most of them are incredibly friendly and approachable.




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