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ALCS 2012: NY vs. DET


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#1 jon abbey


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:27 PM

This is my guess:

game 1: Fister at Pettitte
game 2: Sanchez at Garcia (?)
game 3: Sabathia (3 days rest) or Kuroda at Verlander
game 4: Kuroda or Sabathia at Scherzer
game 5: Pettitte at Fister
game 6: Sanchez at Hughes
game 7: Verlander at Sabathia

If it goes 7, CC will go on 4 days once and 3 days once, it's just a question of when it is. It might make sense to cede game 3 to Verlander and hold CC for game 4, or you could even go Hughes against Verlander as Semper said, then CC/Kuroda/Pettitte/CC (3 days rest).

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:34 PM

One question is if it's Garcia, who loses their 25 man spot? Joba maybe? Rapada?

#3 rembrat


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:35 PM

THe ALCS starts tomorrow? Isn't that a ridiculously short turn around?

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:37 PM

Actually the Tigers shelled Garcia the only time they saw him this year. Maybe Derek Lowe? He has good numbers career against both Cabrera and Fielder, and is on the roster already.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 07:38 PM

THe ALCS starts tomorrow? Isn't that a ridiculously short turn around?


Yep, at least CC gave the whole bullpen a day off.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:02 PM

Maybe it's time to sit Swisher for a game, Gardner in LF and Ichiro to RF.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:02 PM

THe ALCS starts tomorrow? Isn't that a ridiculously short turn around?

Short? yes....ridiculous? no....I believe it was designed to prevent the opposition from having the advantage of additional time off/rest between games.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:17 PM

Short? yes....ridiculous? no....I believe it was designed to prevent the opposition from having the advantage of additional time off/rest between games.


Uh, no, it was because they shoehorned in the coin flip games at the last minute, and next year they will go back to having at least one day off between all series.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 08:19 PM

My guess at tomorrow's lineup against Fister:

Jeter SS
Ichiro RF
Cano 2B
Teixeira 1B
Ibanez DH
A-Rod 3B
Granderson CF
Martin C
Gardner LF

#10 jon abbey


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:17 PM

DET half of the initial post is correct:

Jon Morosi@jonmorosi
#Tigers have already announced ALCS rotation: Fister 1, Sanchez 2, Verlander 3, Scherzer 4, Fister 5, Sanchez 6, Verlander 7.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 10:45 PM

The turnaround's goofy, for sure. Hey, you won home-field advantage, congrats. So now wait for the wild-card winner and if you go 5, tough shit. You lose your off day before the ALCS. Ah, well. Growing pains on format.

And because of that, I think Detroit does get the extra advantage of having the safety net of bringing out their ace in a Game 6 to-save-their-ass scenario on short rest. NYY doesn't have that option, unless you want to go CC twice on 3 days rest.

The most interesting thing about this series will be if it's 1-1, what does Girardi do with Sabathia? I'd say NOT go short rest to face Verlander and instead play for the 2-2 and take your chances with a 2 of 3 with two at home.

Edited by LeoCarrillo, 12 October 2012 - 10:47 PM.


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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:32 PM

Leyland never throws Verlander on 3 days rest, we went through this last year. I believe he's never done it in his entire career, he will go in games 3 and 7 as the tweet I posted above said.

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Posted 12 October 2012 - 11:34 PM

And as if no days off before game 1 isn't bad enough, game 2 is in the 4 PM slot on Sunday, so probably 16 or 17 hours after game 1 ends.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:40 AM

Leyland never throws Verlander on 3 days rest, we went through this last year. I believe he's never done it in his entire career, he will go in games 3 and 7 as the tweet I posted above said.


So, there is no chance that Verlander would pitch Game 6 with the Tigers down 3-2.

Not trying to be a contrarian, but that just seems to be an unwise use of resources.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:43 AM

Seriously, we went through this last postseason, google "Verlander three days rest". He's literally never done it once in his career, regular season or postseason.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:52 AM

Seriously, we went through this last postseason, google "Verlander three days rest". He's literally never done it once in his career, regular season or postseason.


I started to but somehow wound up on Kate Upton pics. Okay, I'll take your word for it.

Edit: You're indeed correct. Anywhoo ... play ball.

Edited by LeoCarrillo, 13 October 2012 - 07:05 AM.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 12:54 AM

Heh, OK, here you go, from last year's ALDS:

""Verlander will pitch Game 1 and Game 5," Leyland said. "All the second-guessers can come out and say I should pitch him in the fourth game if we're behind, but that's not going to happen.""

http://www.mlive.com...tin_verl_1.html

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 10:20 AM

Eppley activated and Nunez dropped for this round.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 02:19 PM

Joel Sherman has the best idea for game 2: start Phelps and have Hughes ready to go behind him for an inning or two (two days rest, his throw day, and he wouldn't be scheduled again until game 6 anyway), Lowe behind him.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 03:31 PM

Heh, and all of those guesses are wrong, as they're going with Kuroda on 3 days rest, which he's never done before in his career. He does have great home/road splits (2.72 ERA at home, 4.23 on the road) and day/night (1.99 ERA in the day, 3.76 at night), so maybe that's the thinking.

So presumably that means:

Pettitte
Kuroda (3 days rest)
Hughes
CC
Pettitte
Kuroda
CC (3 days rest)

Basically NY has decided to just keep their rotation in order, interesting.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 05:53 PM

Not sure about Kuroda going on three days rest for the first time in his career being the best idea, but I guess Phelps and/or Lowe can back him up?

That will be an interesting start to watch for sure.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 07:50 PM

It sure has been quiet in here.
What happened to the Yankee line up? The long ball was null. They looked terribly overmatched in this series.


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 08:01 PM

They'll be fine.