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[Oil Can Dan]

Not sure whether this warrants its own thread or not, but as mentioned in the game thread ARod has been benched for Game 5 vs Baltimore. This comes after being pinch-hit for late in games 3 & 4. Should the Yankees lose today it's going to be a long, cold winter for Mr. Rodriguez and the Yankees.

So immediate time-frame aside, what does the future hold for ARod in NY? Assuming he doesn't hit some magical series clinching pinch-hit HR tonight or do something down the line in the next two weeks if they advance, does this pinch-hitting/benching effectively end his time in NY? Can they continue to coexist? Is he movable in any way, shape or form? He's owed approximately $30M per year for five more seasons and he's seemingly fallen off a cliff - especially vs righties. How much of the contract would the Yankees have to eat in order to move him? And who would take him? Miami? The Dodgers?

[NickEsasky]

Steroids.

[ifmanis5]

Email from Yankee friend today:

Ahhhh, take him out back and shoot him……..Plenty more where that came from

[gammoseditor]

I don't think he's going anywhere. Eric Chavez isn't going to replace him long term. He's not a better player, and he's old himself. They don't have a 3B prospect in the pipeline, and they have other things to spend their money on.

[glennhoffmania]

Barring a team being dumb enough to do a Punto-type trade I don't see him going anywhere. Even if the Yankees ate $100m he'd still be overpaid. His OPS+ and wOBA have declined every year since 2007. He hasn't played in more than 138 games since 2007. What would a team pay for a declining, breaking down 37 year old 3B if he was a FA? 2/20m?

Edited by glennhoffmania, 12 October 2012 - 01:46 PM.

[SaveBooFerriss]

Barring a team being dumb enough to do a Punto-type trade I don't see him going anywhere.

Well, the Red Sox have a lot of payroll flexibility and a hole a 1B.


"Ducking"

[TheoShmeo]

A lot of coin, hatred from Yankees fans, DH time and limited mobility.

And if he's part Mexican, maybe the Dodgers will trade for him and two other unmovable contracts.

[brs3]

If the MFY and ARod were smart, they'd announce during the off-season that he's going to be the full time DH, shift Jeter to 3B, and fill that hole. A third of his games this season were at DH, and in 150 AB his numbers were considerably better. Sure, SSS, but I'd look long and hard at that transition being a reality.

[collings94]

Gun to your head: Who would you rather have hold the all time HR record, A-Rod or Bonds? Is it terrible that the most prestigous individual record in all of sports is/could be held by two of the most unlikeable players to ever play?

[ifmanis5]

Gun to your head: Who would you rather have hold the all time HR record, A-Rod or Bonds? Is it terrible that the most prestigous individual record in all of sports is/could be held by two of the most unlikeable players to ever play?

I don't think ARod has 120 home runs left in him.

Love Bonds. Always have/will, whatever his sins are.

[TheYaz67]

As others pointed out elsewhere, he also has 10/5 rights, so he could veto a trade. Albeit, being a despised, overpaid bench player/DH in NYC might not seem so hot after one year, so perhaps they can't/don't bail on him this year by "trading" him and lots of $ somewhere else, but at the end of next season.....

[jon abbey]

I don't think it's a decision that needs to be made quite yet, I expect him to be better than this at the start of next year once his hand has had ample recovery time and start the year as the fulltime 3B. Of course, it would be impossible to be worse than this against RHP, so he's got a low bar to clear there.

[TheYaz67]

"Ducking"

"Throwing something at you for even suggesting it"

[jon abbey]

I bet he starts again tomorrow in game 1, Chavez hasn't done much and maybe the day off helped a little.

[TheYaz67]

Equal opportunity fail - ARod 0-3 (6 LOB), Chavez 0-3 - 3 K's between em, and both only saw 8 pitches...

[CaptainLaddie]

Well, I'd say shortstop.

[hbk72777]

I don't think ARod has 120 home runs left in him.

Love Bonds. Always have/will, whatever his sins are.

I think he might. If he's just a dh, maybe his hip/body doesn't get worn down playing the field and a few more of his long outs go over the fence. It's not like 18 in 122 was horrible. He needs 23 per year for 5 years. If he plays 145-150 games, it's probably doable. If he can eek out a few extra in the next 2 years, then he's down to the high teens, which even non power guys like Jeter can do. It did seem like he was coming around before he got hit in the hand. I'm sure you guys have the numbers if he really was or not.

[TheYaz67]

Well, I'd say shortstop.

Would be interesting if they let him try - I believe 2005 was the last time he played the position. I fear (and presume they fear) that it would be about as great as the Cabrera back to 3rd base switch....

[jon abbey]

Girardi ruled out A-Rod to SS after the game last night, he said it's been too long since he's played there.

[jon abbey]

Equal opportunity fail - ARod 0-3 (6 LOB), Chavez 0-3 - 3 K's between em, and both only saw 8 pitches...

A-Rod's ABs were all against righties, though, at least one of Chavez's was against a lefty, maybe more.

Chavez had a .908 OPS against RHP this year, .382 against LHP, that's why you start him against RHP over the current version of A-Rod.

[bankshot1]

barring divine intervention, and the continued late innings heroics of Raul Ibanez, the role of scapegoat

Edited by bankshot1, 14 October 2012 - 11:48 AM.

[jon abbey]

"In modern usage a scapegoat is an individual, group, or country singled out for unmerited negative treatment or blame. "

no

[Van Everyman]

I will never ever understand why the Yankees signed him to that extension. They were out. OUT. And then, in one fell swoop, they were fucked.

[jon abbey]

It was all Hank, wasn't it? In the aftermath of George dying, the transition process of ownership to the sons could have gotten really ugly, and in a way this putrid deal was a good thing, as it removed Hank from further decision making after that.

[bankshot1]

South Beach

[Average Reds]

I will never ever understand why the Yankees signed him to that extension. They were out. OUT. And then, in one fell swoop, they were fucked.

In 2007, the prospect of being "out" was a bad thing. ARod was the best player in the game and the Yankees had to have him as a nice shiny toy for the nice, shiny new stadium they were building.

Why they bid against themselves and went to 10 years is a different question, because that was simply insane and most of us said so at the time. But I can completely understand why they would make the effort to re-sign him.

[johnmd20]

South Beach

But he's got no talents left to take with him.

[bankshot1]

But he's got no talents left to take with him.

Kobe told Lebron to give him some

[Gash Prex]

apparently desperate and feeble attempts at hooking up with bikini models.....