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[ThePrideofShiner]

The Yankees already gave new life to Jon Lester yesterday, how about they don't help Beckett get untracked as well.

Anyway, a win tonight would be nice to further bury the Red Sox and Kuroda pitching well on the big stage would be encouraging.

Plus, I don't have to work tonight, so I actually get to watch the game. And bring my special brand of pessimism to the game thread.

Edited by ThePrideofShiner, 19 August 2012 - 03:21 PM.

[jon abbey]

I switched the order of the pitchers for you.

[terrynever]

Orioles win, TB up 4-0 on the fading Angels.

[terrynever]

There will be a pennant race in the AL East next month. Tampa is hot and Baltimore won't go away. Yanks have their hands full.

[terrynever]

The voting for Int. Lg. defensive catcher of year must have been fixed.

[ThePrideofShiner]

Cano needed to get that run home. In one of the longest hitless droughts of his career, 0-for-16.

[terrynever]

Cano needed to get that run home. In one of the longest hitless droughts of his career, 0-for-16.

It's tough to see Cano slumping because he is so talented, you don't think it's possible for him to go 0-for-16.

[jon abbey]

Kuroda is having a helluva week so far.

[ThePrideofShiner]

Would've liked Ibanez and Martin to try and work the count a bit. This game is making me nervous, though Kuroda is dealing.

[terrynever]

The Rays had a helluva week, too. Are we worried yet?

[terrynever]

Ichiro going for the long ball tonight!

[ThePrideofShiner]

That was crushed.

[terrynever]

Beckett's 91 mph FB up and in is very hittable.

[terrynever]

Lavarnway makes Montero look like a Gold Glover.

[ThePrideofShiner]

Jesus. Brutal job by Chavez and Ibanez. That could come back to bite them big time.

[ThePrideofShiner]

Stop talking about the Little League World Series! If I gave a shit, I'd watch. Jesus Christ.

[terrynever]

Beckett looks like a thoroughbred horse who was raced too much.

[terrynever]

Ichiro homers again. Him and Swisher are best buds, according to today's Daily News.

A-Gon homers. 4-1. Still a game.

Edited by terrynever, 19 August 2012 - 09:13 PM.

[ThePrideofShiner]

Get the bullpen up, Joe. Kuroda is tiring quickly.

Edit: Nice job by Kuroda to bounce back and get out of the inning. Time for Robertson and Soriano to finish it.

Edit 2: Or not. Kuroda looked great in the 8th. Might as well let him go for the complete game at this point.

Edited by ThePrideofShiner, 19 August 2012 - 09:35 PM.

[Shaky]

Does nobody here see the irony of Sox fans complaining about the short right field wall at YS?

I don't suppose there's any point in arguing over it...

[terrynever]

Does nobody here see the irony of Sox fans complaining about the short right field wall at YS?

I don't suppose there's any point in arguing over it...

Sox fans complaining is redundant!

[terrynever]

Ichiro looks like he has gas left in his tank. Love his styling in the field.

[terrynever]

Hope this is last Sunday night Sox-Yankees game for about 10 years. Gonzo does, too.

[Shaky]

Ichiro looks like he has gas left in his tank. Love his styling in the field.

Batting .301/ .236/ .747 (going into tonight) since coming over to NY. Great pickup so far, and it cost them next to nothing.

[priestvalon]

Batting .301/ .236/ .747 (going into tonight) since coming over to NY. Great pickup so far, and it cost them next to nothing.

Impressive that he hits so many infield hits that he can actually have a negative number of walks

[Shaky]

Impressive that he hits so many infield hits that he can actually have a negative number of walks

Yeah. Should be .326. Incidentally, he has only walked once as a Yankee.

[Shaky]

.322/.344/.506 now. (I used ops last time instead of slg.) I really need a nap.

[terrynever]

And he's fun to watch. This team is about playing the game and nothing else. A fan can,t ask for anything ese from the team he roots for.

[ThePrideofShiner]

Hey, it's my first game thread win. Now I need to remember to start one tomorrow.

[terrynever]

.322/.344/.506 now. (I used ops last time instead of slg.) I really need a nap.

Thanks. Those look like his numbers from five years ago.

[terrynever]

Hey, it's my first game thread win. Now I need to remember to start one tomorrow.

Good job. Our rotation is getting deeper.

[Shaky]

When are the O's going to die? They have the same exact run differential as KC.

[terrynever]

When are the O's going to die? They have the same exact run differential as KC.

They've got a decent bullpen and a solid closer. I think they will hang in third place, maybe make a run at the second wild card. Buck and Duquette have done a great job there, changing the losing culture. Buck's got Markakis leading off now and Nick is a pretty scary guy at that spot in the lineup. And Hardy might be the best shortstop in the league.

Edited by terrynever, 19 August 2012 - 10:23 PM.

[priestvalon]

When are the O's going to die? They have the same exact run differential as KC.

I don't see them collapsing now. Their pitching is a little above average, and they have a young team with enough contributors to get W's. I haven't looked at their schedule, but the way they handled Detroit didn't appear to be a fluke. Its way beyond SSS now.

However, the biggest part of their winning season has come from the Boston Red Sox, Seattle Mariners and Minnesota Twins... so one of those could be less favorable next year and they could turn into a pumpkin again.

Edited by priestvalon, 19 August 2012 - 10:30 PM.

[priestvalon]

And he's fun to watch. This team is about playing the game and nothing else. A fan can,t ask for anything ese from the team he roots for.

Acquiring Suzuki has been one of the most surprisingly fun things about the season so far. If you got the top 100 who will NY trade for mid season guys, I don't think he makes the list.

[Shaky]

I don't see them collapsing now. Their pitching is a little above average, and they have a young team with enough contributors to get W's. I haven't looked at their schedule, but the way they handled Detroit didn't appear to be a fluke. Its way beyond SSS now.

However, the biggest part of their winning season has come from the Boston Red Sox, Seattle Mariners and Minnesota Twins... so one of those could be less favorable next year and they could turn into a pumpkin again.

Out of the Yankees, Tampa and Baltimore, the O's have the toughest schedule going forward.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/huntforoctober

Edited by Shaky, 19 August 2012 - 10:34 PM.

[jon abbey]

The O's had McLouth hitting third the other night, is that a regular thing? Seemed odd to me.

Not sure how legit TB is, but the Saturday night comeback game was huge for both those teams, I think. Being an Angels fan this year must be so frustrating, at least with Boston everyone is pretty much sucking together (even Buchholz was dreadful for a long stretch), but the Angels have the love child of Mickey Mantle and Rickey Henderson leading off every night, Weaver another Cy Young contending season, CJ Wilson/Greinke/Haren behind him, and are somehow still are only 62-60. Five games out in the loss column in the wild card now with 40 left.

Nice win for NY, Kuroda is going to make big money if he wants this offseason if he keeps this up. 3/50? I don't think the $189M for 2014 goal is going to realistically survive this offseason, I will bump that thread sometime.

[priestvalon]

The O's had McLouth hitting third the other night, is that a regular thing? Seemed odd to me.

Not sure how legit TB is, but the Saturday night comeback game was huge for both those teams, I think. Being an Angels fan this year must be so frustrating, at least with Boston everyone is pretty much sucking together (even Buchholz was dreadful for a long stretch), but the Angels have the love child of Mickey Mantle and Rickey Henderson leading off every night, Weaver another Cy Young contending season, CJ Wilson/Greinke/Haren behind him, and are somehow still are only 62-60. Five games out in the loss column in the wild card now with 40 left.

Nice win for NY, Kuroda is going to make big money if he wants this offseason if he keeps this up. 3/50? I don't think the $189M for 2014 goal is going to realistically survive this offseason, I will bump that thread sometime.

McLouth was acquired from Pit, has played since the start of August, started out strong, but has fallen back to earth very quickly since then, especially in the slugging department. Baltimore doesn't have a crazy deep lineup, but they can do better than him. Still, lots of head scratching lineup cards in the AL East this year.

The Angels big dilemma is that the West is a rough dogfight of a division this year, with the A's just not going away. Only the Central has a weak underbelly of teams that a wildcard hunting team can feast on (and are the only WC teams that have a sub 500 rest of the way.)

Agreed on the $189 for 2014 commentary. I think a lot depends on what they get from Pineda. Based on track records, Cashman will probably find one reclamation project for the rotation that can pan out, but asking for more than that is tempting fate. Hughes is pitching his way out of the concept of a big contract from NY. Also what will Pettitte do? Can he get back? Will he try again next year? Be good? How cheap? If Cashman can "solve" the rotation without breaking the bank, he has a decent chance at the cap goal, if not they probably give in on that goal.

[jon abbey]

Cashman just said somewhere he can't count on Pineda next year, his lost season along with that of Banuelos and Campos is the main reason I think the $189M goal is toast.

Also one year contracts don't matter for the 2014 goal (which is certainly what Pettitte would sign if he came back again), the issue is that Swisher, Kuroda and Martin will all almost certainly command 3 or 4 year deals as FAs, and none will be easy to replace. Even with Pettitte, CC/Kuroda/AP/Nova/Hughes (Phelps/Warren at 6/7) is way stronger than CC/AP/Nova/Hughes/Phelps (Warren/??? at 6/7).

[ThePrideofShiner]

Can Martin really command a 3 or 4 year deal? He is hitting under .200.

[jon abbey]

I was thinking something like 3/20 for Martin, his BA and OPS are pretty low, but he's 6th among AL catcher in BBs and tied with Carlos Santana for 7th in HRs. His value is primarily in his experience with the staff, though, especially Kuroda (so if he leaves, I think Martin becomes a bit less valuable).

Anyway, possibly not, but even two years starts to cut into NY's 2014 space.