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[PedroSpecialK]

Thank god it wasn't here.

Rick Nash traded to Rangers per Dreger, more to follow

My guess would be Dubinsky, Stepan, Erixon, and a 1st or 2nd.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Will be multiple players involved in Nash trade to NYR. Contracts are being reviewed, etc. All to be done before trade call.

Edited by PedroSpecialK, 23 July 2012 - 01:17 PM.

[Greg29fan]

will be very interested to see the return - better be like 2 or 3 rosters players plus picks.

edit - It's "multiple players" according to a Dreger follow-up

Edited by Greg29fan, 23 July 2012 - 01:17 PM.

[cshea]

I'm going with Kreider and 1 of MDZ/McDonaugh.

The Rangers are dumb.

[AimingForYoko]

Thank god it wasn't here.

Rick Nash traded to Rangers per Dreger, more to follow

My guess would be Dubinsky, Stepan, Erixon, and a 1st or 2nd.

Please let there be an over-payment. C'mon Rags, don't let me down.

[The Four Peters]

So Nash - Richards - Gaborik? That's a pretty sexy line, even though the rest of their forwards will be gutted.

I'd be shocked if the Rangers give up Kreider, but I doubt Columbus does it without him.

[FelixMantilla]

I'd be shocked if the Rangers give up Kreider, but I doubt Columbus does it without him.

I agree with this.

Where the hell is PSK with more details? Is he slacking again? I can't access twitter at work.

[PedroSpecialK]

Also from Dreger - with correct spelling to boot!

News from Nashville: Siarhei Kastsitsyn (NSH) has settled: 2 yrs AAV $3 mil.

[FL4WL3SS]

This could be huge for the Blue Jackets - I really hope they gave up Kreider.

[The Four Peters]

So Nash - Richards - Gaborik? That's a pretty sexy line,

I meant this literally too. They are 3 handsome gentlemen.

[RedOctober3829]

I meant this literally too. They are 3 handsome gentlemen.

Gaborik is going to be out for the start of the season so there's that.

[cshea]

Nash - Richards - Gaborik is the new Heatley - Thornton - Marleau.

[The Napkin]

Dreger says no Stepan.

[RedOctober3829]

Man, if they end up keeping Stepan and Kreider and add Nash they will be nasty offensively.

[Greg29fan]

Dreger - Dubinsky, Erixon and a 1st are 3 of the 4 pieces going to Columbus

Edited by Greg29fan, 23 July 2012 - 01:41 PM.

[RedOctober3829]

Dubinsky, Erixson and 1st believed to be 3 of 4 pieces included in Nash trade.

Dreger

Are you kidding me? The other piece better be Kreider.

[Salem's Lot]

It's the Rangers. Bettman probably made the Blue Jackets take two mid level prospects, a bad contract and a 2nd.

[PedroSpecialK]

4th's gotta be either Christian Thomas or Anisimov IMO

[Domer]

4th's gotta be either Christian Thomas or Anisimov IMO

4th's gotta be either Christian Thomas or Anisimov IMO

My guess is Hagelin.

[Salem's Lot]

Dreger - Dubinsky, Erixon and a 1st are 3 of the 4 pieces going to Columbus

And they wanted Seguin, Hamilton & a 1st from the Bruins. Fucking unbelievable.

[cshea]

I retract my statement about this being dumb for the Rangers.

[MiracleOfO2704]

So Scott Howson manages to trade a potential 50-goal scorer away in exchange for two pluggers and a late 20s pick?

Can I have his job?

Edit: Yes, I'm aware that those aren't the only players. However, I'm also sure those three are the biggest pieces. No Kreider, no Del Zotto, no McDonough. Franchise-crushing trade for CBJ.

Edited by MiracleOfO2704, 23 July 2012 - 01:48 PM.

[Greg29fan]

Anisimov is the other guy per McKenzie

[cshea]

Bob says Anisimov is the 4th piece.

Puke.

[RedOctober3829]

Anisimov is the 4th part of the deal per Bob McKenzie.

Dubinsky
Anisimov
Erixson
1st Rd Pick.

Let me go throw up now.

[FL4WL3SS]

Just fold up the Blue Jackets at this point - what the fuck are they doing?

[TheRealness]

So Scott Howson manages to trade a potential 50-goal scorer away in exchange for two pluggers and a late 20s pick?

Can I have his job?

After all the blustering, positioning, and bullshitting, he really got bent over and assfucked by a Rambone.

No wonder Columbus is going nowhere.

[MiracleOfO2704]

The worst part in the whole Columbus situation is they made a big deal out of hiring Craig Patrick as a consultant, yet Howson still makes that trade. Disgusting.

[Greg29fan]

The Penguins got a better haul for pending UFA Jordan Staal than the Blue Jackets did for Rick Nash, who is under contract for several more years. That doesn't make sense.

[Greg29fan]

The worst part in the whole Columbus situation is they made a big deal out of hiring Craig Patrick as a consultant, yet Howson still makes that trade. Disgusting.

well Craig did trade Jaromir Jagr for Kris Beech

[TheShynessClinic]

So Scott Howson manages to trade a potential 50-goal scorer away in exchange for two pluggers and a late 20s pick?

He's only put up 40 goals twice, the last time being 2008. He's a good player, but let's not go overboard.

[FL4WL3SS]

The Rangers cleared $6M with the trade of Dubinsky and Anisimov and only added an additional $1.8M with bringing on Nash. This is a great trade for the Rangers.

[mikeford]

I hope the lockout cancels the league permanently.

fuck this.

[BoSoxFink]

I know many of you here didn't want Nash's contract but the Bruins couldn't match that fucking deal? What a joke! The Rangers just got better and Philly just got better if the Weber signing goes through. Those are two of the main competitors for the Bruins who also I may add both finished ahead of the Bruins in the standings and went further in the playoffs and yet the Bruins have still done nothing this offseason.

[TheRealness]

The Rangers cleared $6M with the trade of Dubinsky and Anisimov and only added an additional $1.8M with bringing on Nash. This is a great trade for the Rangers.

I really really want to know what the fuck Howson was thinking after asking for pieces like Seguin and Hamilton from the Bruins, or Skinner from the 'Canes.

Maybe someone can offer a counter-argument to why this is acceptable? Right now, I just don't see it.

[The Four Peters]

The Penguins got a better haul for pending UFA Jordan Staal than the Blue Jackets did for Rick Nash, who is under contract for several more years. That doesn't make sense.

Actually, considering Nash's AAV, it makes perfect sense. That contract is crippling for most teams.

I actually think this is probably at the top of the market for what CBJ could get back for Nash, especially since everyone was laughing at the ridiculous returns they were reportedly asking for. This sounds a lot more reasonable. Now if we're going to assume that premise, the real question becomes if they should have stayed pat with Nash or done this trade. I'm honestly torn on that. I really don't think there was that much more out there for him.

Either way, it's pretty much a slam dunk trade for the Rags.

[TheRealness]

I know many of you here didn't want Nash's contract but the Bruins couldn't match that fucking deal? What a joke! The Rangers just got better and Philly just got better if the Weber signing goes through. Those are two of the main competitors for the Bruins who also I may add both finished ahead of the Bruins in the standings and went further in the playoffs and yet the Bruins have still done nothing this offseason.

Given that many of us assumed roster players would be involved, and with Chiarelli saying Krejci/Lucic were untouchable, I think that answers the question from the Bruins perspective. Howson could conceivably have asked for one or the other, and Chia just said no.

[RedOctober3829]

The Rangers cleared $6M with the trade of Dubinsky and Anisimov and only added an additional $1.8M with bringing on Nash. This is a great trade for the Rangers.

I can't believe that Columbus actually almost stayed the same salary-wise with Nash. I wouldn't have traded Nash unless I got out from under his salary in the short-term as well. Long-term, this is good but they can't even add anything. Dubinsky is owed $4.2 million for the next 3 seasons and Anisimov makes $1.8 million and is a RFA after the year.

Edited by RedOctober3829, 23 July 2012 - 02:02 PM.

[BoSoxFink]

Given that many of us assumed roster players would be involved, and with Chiarelli saying Krejci/Lucic were untouchable, I think that answers the question from the Bruins perspective. Howson could conceivably have asked for one or the other, and Chia just said no.

Yea, but why were they asking that from the Bruins and not from the Rangers? Dubinsky is not as good as either Looch or Krejci. It makes no sense.

It is a completely awful, awful deal for Columbus!

Edited by BoSoxFink, 23 July 2012 - 01:58 PM.

[Greg29fan]

Hey guess what - it gets worse for Columbus. Their beat writer Aaron Portzline just tweeted:

TSN has Dubinsky, Anisimov, Erixon and 1st to #CBJ. Told #CBJ are sending a 3rd-round pick and a minor-league defenseman to the Rangers.

[FL4WL3SS]

At this point, the blue jackets might as well trade Huselius, Aucoin and Prospal - they're so young that it's pointless having these 3 on the team.

EDIT: Huselius is an UFA

Edited by FL4WL3SS, 23 July 2012 - 02:01 PM.

[Salem's Lot]

The only explanation for this is that Nash really wanted to play there and forced the issue.

[PedroSpecialK]

Rangers got a great deal, Howson shot himself in the foot months ago and was never going to get full value.

When they're healthy:

Nash - Richards - Gaborik
Kreider - Stepan - Callahan
Hagelin - Boyle - Thomas/Pyatt/Miller
Rupp - Halpern - Asham

McDonagh - Girardi
Staal - Del Zotto
Sauer - Stralman

Lundqvist
Biron

Look out, East. My goodness.

Columbus, on the other hand...

Dubinsky - Johansen - Foligno
Prospal - Anisimov - Umberger
Calvert - Brassard - Atkinson/MacKenzie
Gillies - Letestu - Dorsett
Boll

Johnson - Wisniewski
Tyutin - Aucoin
Nikitin - Moore
Savard

Bobrovsky
Mason

This might be the worst team I've ever seen.

[The Four Peters]

My lord, the Rangers are stacked. That's a great team.

[FL4WL3SS]

Brassard as a 3rd line center?

Anyway, I agree that roster is fucking junk. They better hope that a bunch of guys make a leap forward. The average age of that team is probably close to 25 or 26 at this point.

[RedOctober3829]

That trade screams of Howson saying: "Fire me now and get me out of this hell hole as quick as possible".

[cshea]

I just went back to the trade deadline thread, and it appears as though Columbus turned down Dubinsky, Erixon, JT Miller, Christian Thomas and a 1st. 5 months later, the Jackets essentially turned Miller and Thomas into Anisimov. I'd prefer the two prospects.

Well done, Howson.

[mikeford]

That team should just be contracted and Howson should be shot


out of a cannon


into the sun.

[cshea]

Has there ever been a division more loaded than what the Atlantic could be this year? Especially if Philly lands Weber?

[BoSoxFink]

I am so pissed off right now that the Rangers were able to get Nash for that heaping pile of junk. That team is so stacked right now because of it that it's a joke. Honestly i really didn't want Nash either because of the contract but I just can't fathom how that deal was accepted by Howson.

[FL4WL3SS]

I am so pissed off right now that the Rangers were able to get Nash for that heaping pile of junk. That team is so stacked right now because of it that it's a joke. Honestly i really didn't want Nash either because of the contract but I just can't fathom how that deal was accepted by Howson.

Calm down spanky - it wasnt' a steaming pile of junk. The trade is a clear win for the Rangers, but the Blue Jackets got some good players back. Erixon immediately becomes the Blue Jackets best prospect outside of Johansen. It's just that the Blue Jackets got no immediate help back and are banking that these young guys will turn into really good players. Anisimov had 44 and 36 points in his age 23 and 24 seasons; Dubinsky has had a couple of 20 goal seasons before the age of 25.

With Nash's NTC and outrageous contract, what other teams were a fit and were willing to give up more? I'm pissed that the Blue Jackets didn't get more and this is a clear win for the Rangers, but you need to do some homework.