Lebron has about 50 lbs of muscle on Jordan, no way MJ is able to keep him outside. Pippen or even Barkley should be guarding Lebron, with lots of help. Luckily '92 has some great interior D.
Lebron has the muscle, but he really hasnt developed the post game. If he had Jordans post game that he utilized during his last 3 titles with that turnaround to reduce the hits he took, then yeah Lebron would be a difficult guard for MJ. And it wouldnt be an easy guard for Jordan, but I really have a difficult time saying 'Jordan couldnt handle that challenge' for any reasonable basketball challenge anyway. Because MJ was an amazing athlete, and probably one of the greatest competitors that entire world of sports has ever seen.
Rather than having Barkley guard him you might as just have me guard him, because Lebron would go by Barkley before he could even swipe and foul him intentionally.
There's a troubling trend in your posts, wutang. You put quite a lot of stock in intangibles and unmeasurables, and draw big conclusions from them. You almost exclusively judge by feel - Rondo's an ass, Melo's not going to amount to anything, and now this:
I go on feel sure, but some of the examples you mention can only be done on feel. There isnt data to use to determine if Rondo is a jerk and if he is the effect him being nice might have on the Celts. Projecting Melo with little basketball experience and only playing the zone in college, to the NBA game and playing a switching/help defense can only be projected.
Dude. Jordan's simply not as strong as LeBron. And for all the talk of LeBron's mental weakness and Jordan's mental toughness, there's really no data supporting what you say. What we know is that LeBron is stronger and that he is taller. We know that Jordan is quicker (hands) and faster (feet).
I completely agree on your physical assessment of the two of them, but as I mentioned above I just have a tough time betting against MJ when it comes to a basketball challenge. He wouldnt shut Lebron down, but I am pretty confident that he would make things difficult for him. And when MJ is on offense, I am more confident that MJ would be more effective than Lebron.
Also, there is zero chance I can support my opinion here with data, unless we could actually develop a realistic Jordan vs Lebron [instead of Jordan vs Bird] then how else could we use data to come to a conclusion? Would you agree that there are certain athletes that can 'raise' their game in key situations, games or challenges? And if you do agree, do you have any theory on how to calculate that ability with data? And if you dont agree [that certain athletes can raise their game] then we probably have to agree to disagree.
Edited by wutang112878, 12 July 2012 - 07:02 PM.