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[mauidano]

http://www.boston.co...a_headed_1.html

It just keeps getting worse...Pedey will miss at LEAST 11 games.

[Dogman2]

At least it's during the break and he gets an additional 4 days.

[shepard50]

Well, that's a blow. With Middlebrooks unavailable possibly through the All star break, that means lots of Punto and Lillibridge. Iglesias is still not playing every day in Pawtucket, he's slowly getting back in game shape after a month on the DL with a back injury.

So what's the corresponding move? They'd have to add him to the 40-man roster, but Ciriaco can cover SS, 2nd and 3rd (he certainly would be better defensive cover at 3rd than Mauro Gomez).

[Pumpsie]

God, the injuries this season are truly biblical. I guess it's Ciriaco but it's a tough call.

[mabrowndog]

I'm betting we'll see Iglesias called up since he's already on the 40-man and has options, even though he's only been back from injury a little over a week. The Sox are a week or two away from having to trade or DFA two players to make room for Crawford & Ellsbury, and they might have to do something sooner to make room for Andy Laroche if WMB's hamstring forces him to the DL as well. I don't seem them doing it now for Ciriaco or Spears.

Edited by mabrowndog, 06 July 2012 - 07:01 AM.

[trekfan55]

Maureen Mullen

Maureen Mullen ‏@MaureenaMullen
IF Pedro Ciriaco is on his way to Boston. With #PawSox 37G @ SS, 23 @ 2B, 3 @ 3B. #RedSox would have to make room on 40-man. #redsoxtalk

It does look like it's Ciriaco.

[Gene Conleys Plane Ticket]

Maureen Mullen



It does look like it's Ciriaco.

Yes, the Ciriaco era has begun! May it be prosperous for all!

[JimBoSox9]

Well, let's ignore the knowledge that the Sox came a little late to the Pedroia DL party, and just celebrate the fact that they got here at all. You just don't fuck around with a hitter's hands, not this early in the season.

[Eric Van]

Yes, the Ciriaco era has begun! May it be prosperous for all!

If they think Ciriaco is the sort of guy who won't be bothered by the MFY-game pressure, he may well be a better option at 2B than Punto (as I ran it down in the other Pedey thread). Very curious as to the 40-man roster move; it would be a shame to lose someone substantive when we know the clock is ticking for Germano, Podsesdnik (although he'll be useful this weekend given how shaky Kalish has been) probably Albers, either Sweeney or Lillibridge, and eventually either Cook or Matsuzaka. Simplest thing would be to DFA Germano (hoping to get a C- prospect back) and recall Tazawa.

[Savin Hillbilly]

So how do they handle the 40-man problem? Is it possible they move Hill to the 60-day? He'd be eligible to come back in the first week of August, I think.

[trekfan55]

Hill to the 60 day seems to be the most logical move at this point. They should also send Kalish to AAA to activate Podsednik.

They get an extra roster spot for tomorrow, and already have 12 pitchers.

Then after the break, the real crunch comes, as they must make 2 moves on the 40 man.

[dbn]

February 21, 2012: Placed RHP Bobby Jenks on the 60-day DL.
April 5, 2012: Placed LHP Rich Hill, RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka, OF Carl Crawford and LHP Andrew Miller and OF on the 15-day DL, retroactive to March 26. Placed RHP Andrew Bailey, RHP Chris Carpenter and OF Ryan Kalish on the 60-day DL.
April 14, 2012: Placed OF Jacoby Ellsbury on the 15-day DL.
April 23, 2012: Placed OF Jason Repko on the 15-day DL, retroactive to April 21.
May 2, 2012: Placed 3B Kevin Youkilis on the 15-day DL.
May 3, 2012: Transferred OF Carl Crawford to the 60-day DL.
May 6, 2012: Placed RHP Aaron Cook on 15-day DL.
May 13, 2012: Placed OF Darnell McDonald on the 15-day DL, retroactive to May 12. Transferred OF Jacoby Ellsbury to the 60-day DL.
May 22, 2012: Placed OF Ryan Sweeney on the 7-day DL, retroactive to May 20 and OF Cody Ross on the 15-day DL, retroactive to May 19.
June 9, 2012: Transferred OF Jason Repko to the 60-day DL.
June 10, 2012: Placed LHP Rich Hill on the 15-day DL.
June 16, 2012: Placed RHP Josh Beckett on the 15-day DL, retroactive to June 12.
June 17, 2012: Placed OF Ryan Sweeney on the 15-day DL.
June 19, 2012: Placed OF Scott Podsednik on the 15-day DL, retroactive to June 18.
June 24, 2012: Placed RHP Clay Buchholz on the 15-day DL, retroactive to June 20.
July 4, 2012: Placed RHP Daisuke Matsuzaka on the 15-day DL.
Dustin should be added to the DL today.

Not included above are Lackey and Kalish.

Current DL:
Daisuke Matsuzaka, P ($10M)
Clay Buchholz, P ($3.5M)
Scott Podsednik, OF ($0.75M)
Ryan Sweeney, OF ($1.75M)
Rich Hill, P ($0.725M)
Jacoby Ellsbury, CF ($8.05M)
Andrew Bailey, P ($3.9M)
Chris "the other" Carpenter, P ($0.482M)
Carl Crawford, OF ($19.5M)
John Lackey, P ($15.25M)
Dustin Pedroia, IF ($8M)
Total: $71.907M (larger than the opening day payrolls of SD, OAK, HOU, KC, PGH, TB and CLE)

Will Middlebrooks, Cody Ross, and Mike Aviles are listed as "day to day".

Current DL size "leaders":
SD: 12
BOS: 11
NYY: 11
LAD: 9
PHI: 9

[mabrowndog]

Hill to the 60 day seems to be the most logical move at this point.

That is indeed the corresponding 40-man move per Sean McAdam.

[bloodysox]

Then after the break, the real crunch comes, as they must make 2 moves on the 40 man.

I'm guessing we'll DFA Podsednik (no use for him) and Gomez (not many teams have a need for a AAAA 1st/3rd baseman).

[judyb]

Funny how we keep assuming that they'll eventually run out of new 60 day DL candidates.

[mabrowndog]

Gordon Edes

Sox statement said Pedroia hyperextended thumb, injury to "volar plate of thumb. That happens when thumb is jammed.

EDIT - Maureen Mullen has the full statement:

"Dustin Pedroia hyperextended his right thumb on July 3, 2012. He was examined by the Red Sox medical staff and an MRI was performed. Dustin sustained an injury to the volar plate of his right thumb. Dustin will be treated conservatively with a brief period of immobilization. The previous injury to his right thumb adductor muscle has completely healed. This was confirmed by MRI."

Edited by mabrowndog, 06 July 2012 - 04:12 PM.

[Norm Siebern]

Should have happened five weeks ago.

[Eric Van]

I'm guessing we'll DFA Podsednik (no use for him) and Gomez (not many teams have a need for a AAAA 1st/3rd baseman).

Very weirdly, Podsednik was optioned when he came off the DL (were the option rules changed in the new CBA?), but he is an expandable 40-man piece.

Gomez was hitting .311 / .366 / .614 for the PawSox and you don't need an MLE to guess that that translates into a capable MLB bat, which is also what Kevin Goldstein at BP was reporting that scouts were saying. There would be a place for him on any team with a LH-hitting 1B with a platoon split.

He has all three of his options left and could be a very nice piece to have riding the shuttle for a couple of years, so I'd like to keep him on the 40-man if possible. Jeff Bailey had a similar OPS for Pawtucket in '08 and hit .280 / .390 / .460 in 27 games for Boston, but he was 29 that year and never that good again. Aaron Bates was never anywhere that good, period. Not getting suckage in these injury call-up roles can win you games, as we saw tonight.

Ciriaco, OTOH, is out of options. He looks like a solid MLB reserve infielder, and I think he's unlikely to clear waivers and make it back to Pawtucket.

He may well be better than Nick Punto. He's certainly less expensive. Just sayin' ...

[Plympton91]

Very weirdly, Podsednik was optioned when he came off the DL (were the option rules changed in the new CBA?), but he is an expandable 40-man piece.

Gomez was hitting .311 / .366 / .614 for the PawSox and you don't need an MLE to guess that that translates into a capable MLB bat, which is also what Kevin Goldstein at BP was reporting that scouts were saying. There would be a place for him on any team with a LH-hitting 1B with a platoon split.

He has all three of his options left and could be a very nice piece to have riding the shuttle for a couple of years, so I'd like to keep him on the 40-man if possible. Jeff Bailey had a similar OPS for Pawtucket in '08 and hit .280 / .390 / .460 in 27 games for Boston, but he was 29 that year and never that good again. Aaron Bates was never anywhere that good, period. Not getting suckage in these injury call-up roles can win you games, as we saw tonight.

Ciriaco, OTOH, is out of options. He looks like a solid MLB reserve infielder, and I think he's unlikely to clear waivers and make it back to Pawtucket.

He may well be better than Nick Punto. He's certainly less expensive. Just sayin' ...

I wonder if Podsednik's options clock restarted when he stayed out of baseball last year. Wasn't it that spending a year in Japan gave the Red Sox the ability to make a mockery of Meloni's options tally?

Ciriaco still had a great day of BABIP yesterday., we'll take everything we can get. His speed seems very good, so perhaps that's why he seems to be able to find holes at an above average rate. Wouldn't Brett Lillibridge be the more logical cut than Punto? Outside of last season, Lillibridge shows no ability to be a major league player at all, and at this point, I would think he'd easily clear waivers and make it to Pawtucket.