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[behindthepen]

I know we are probably about 3 months away still, but since it's already impacting the market for smartphones, it's time to get ready for it.

The current conventional wisdom:
-Launches sometime around Sept 30, give or take a few weeks.
-larger screen size
-metal backing
-will have the 32nm version of the A5x.  Still a dual-core apps processor, but with the additional GPU cores, compared to the A5x in most ipads today it will be smaller and more power-efficient. (http://www.anandtech...-32nm-a5-tested)
-ios6
-LTE


-edit to add:  in-cell touch panels, which will eliminate a layer of glass on the touchscreen.

This COULD be the phone that finally seduces me away from Android.

Edited by behindthepen, 17 September 2012 - 09:27 AM.

[FL4WL3SS]

There have been predictions of a larger screen size as far back as the 3GS, I don't see it happening. I think Apple feels like it has the perfect sized phone and don't want to change it - also, I think a lot of iPhone users love the size.

I could be wrong, but we've heard about a larger iPhone for a long time and it never comes to fruition.

[The Four Peters]

These are definitely the most substantial rumors of a bigger screen though. There have been leaked photos of the increased back plate size from the same manufacturing channels that had past re-designs correct. I'm not saying it's a slam dunk, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the time they finally decided to make the change, especially now that they have the ability to make the Retina display larger.

I've also seen rumors of a new charger/USB input that would differ from the one that EVERYONE has from all past iPhones and iPods. I know that would infuriate a lot of people as it would instantly render millions of after market devices incompatible without some sort of adapter. No idea what their end game would be with this, but it's interesting to watch.

Either way, there's about a 99% certainty I get this phone when it comes out, since I have an iPhone 4 that's starting to slow down and doesn't seem as able to handle a lot of the things it used to. It's still more than functional, just little things are starting to annoy me more than usual.

[PBDWake]

I didn't upgrade from the 4 to the 4s, but I will probably spring for this. I've been running a jailbroken 4 for a while, and the convenience of circumventing the iPhone's max download size combined with my unlimited data plan have made me a happy camper for a long time with it. I'm perfectly fine with the screen size, but as long as there's not a substantial jump in size or weight, I'll be fine with a change. I imagine this will likely be the end of my unlimited data with AT&T, but the recent speed reductions they've initiated will make it an easier pill to swallow.

[jayhoz]

I've also seen rumors of a new charger/USB input that would differ from the one that EVERYONE has from all past iPhones and iPods. I know that would infuriate a lot of people as it would instantly render millions of after market devices incompatible without some sort of adapter. No idea what their end game would be with this, but it's interesting to watch.

Unless Apple has tricked the entire accessory industry, this is happening. The end game is to make room inside the device for things that add functionality.

My assumption was that we would see an influx of adapters that would make the new connector work with the older docks. I have been told that Apple currently will not certify things like this and that adapters would only be available on the gray market. What do you want to bet that Apple launches one for $40?

Edited by jayhoz, 27 June 2012 - 08:20 AM.

[Jimy Hendrix]

Unless Apple has tricked the entire accessory industry, this is happening. The end game is to make room inside the device for things that add functionality.

My assumption was that we would see an influx of adapters that would make the new connector work with the older docks. I have been told that Apple currently will not certify things like this and that adapters would only be available on the gray market. What do you want to bet that Apple launches one for $40?

I would take that bet, only because $29 seems to be their current chosen price for adapters. Could just be for the new Mac ones though, who the hell knows.

[FL4WL3SS]

These are definitely the most substantial rumors of a bigger screen though. There have been leaked photos of the increased back plate size from the same manufacturing channels that had past re-designs correct. I'm not saying it's a slam dunk, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the time they finally decided to make the change, especially now that they have the ability to make the Retina display larger.

I've also seen rumors of a new charger/USB input that would differ from the one that EVERYONE has from all past iPhones and iPods. I know that would infuriate a lot of people as it would instantly render millions of after market devices incompatible without some sort of adapter. No idea what their end game would be with this, but it's interesting to watch.

Either way, there's about a 99% certainty I get this phone when it comes out, since I have an iPhone 4 that's starting to slow down and doesn't seem as able to handle a lot of the things it used to. It's still more than functional, just little things are starting to annoy me more than usual.

You haven't even see the phone yet and you're already 99% certain you're getting it? You really are a blind follower at this point, aren't you?

[MannysDestination]

You haven't even see the phone yet and you're already 99% certain you're getting it? You really are a blind follower at this point, aren't you?

Not really, once someone chooses an ecosystem (Android or iOS) they tend to stick with it for a while. I'm in on iPhones for a while unless there's a pretty significant performance difference between it and Android because I have all my media organized through iTunes.

[The Four Peters]

You haven't even see the phone yet and you're already 99% certain you're getting it? You really are a blind follower at this point, aren't you?

There's a 1% chance that they come out with something so radically different from the past ones that I wouldn't like it. I'm also fully invested in the Apple ecosystem with a MacBook Air and an iPad, so this would keep everything connected, which was been very convenient and I have no reason to switch from that. Lastly, I've tried a ton of different Android phones and really just don't like the OS nearly enough to make a change.

If by "blind follower" you mean "incredibly happy with all the Apple products I've bought so far and have zero reason to switch other than a drastic change to the new phone" then sure, and that accounts for the 1%. If you want me to change it to 90%, that's fine too. I'm glad you enjoy your SII, sounds like it's a great phone for you, and you'll likely love the SIII when you get it. Until then, how about you not come into the iPhone thread and mock/troll people who are discussing buying the phone?

[FL4WL3SS]

I know you feel the need to justify yourself so that everyone doesn't think you're a blind follower, I was just giving you a hard time pumpkin.

[The Four Peters]

You asked the question, I answered honestly. The fact that you interpret that as justifying myself probably says more about your preferences than mine.

[shlincoln]

Isn't the (rumored) increase in screen size a necessary concession to make LTE work with reasonable battery life?

Edited by shlincoln, 27 June 2012 - 09:01 AM.

[crow216]

Isn't the (rumored) increase in screen size a necessary concession to make LTE work with reasonable battery life?

There's no reason anybody would ever know that or that anyone could ever come to that conclusion that Apple made their decision based solely on LTE.. Apple is smart and I'm sure they've had LTE iPhones and 4.5inch iPhones in prototype phase for 3 years but they have never rushed to change a design that they love just to add speed. The original iPhone was 2g, if you recall.

The rumors of 4 inch are substantial this time around, with videos and multiple sources showing the housing of the phone. I dno't care about a bigger screen. When I see people holding their big screens I just laugh. It's a fucking phone, not a tablet. I welcome a change to the design of the phone but the only reason I'm inclined to ask for a bigger screen is so that I don't have to hear people talk out of their ass about how stupid looking the iPhone screen is.

Edited by crow216, 27 June 2012 - 09:29 AM.

[behindthepen]

I think the larger screen size is a natural evolution. It probably does help hide a bigger battery, but their processor and LTE baseband will be more power efficient than 90% of what is in the market today. But the reality is that it is NOT a phone, it's a mobile computer, and having a bigger screen improves the utility of the device, and keeps it competitive.

[Van Everyman]

I've been struggling with my 3G for a while now -- it got noticeably slower with iOS5. I had been contemplating buying a used 4 or 4S to tide me over. But if we're really looking at 9/30, I will be all over that.

[Bongorific]

There was so much backlash over the 4S being only an "S" upgradge, with the same housing, that I can't see Apple releasing a phone that doesn't have a bigger screen. It won't be a 4.6" behemoth. More likely, they'll slightly stretch the casing, reduce the bezel, make it ultra widescreen, and get it to around 4" without having to make the actual device much bigger.

They need to do something like that, plus more, to remain dominant. Microsoft has shown some very interesting projects and Android is becoming more cohesive. Competition is a great thing. I think analyst will grow a little concerned if Apple doesn't wow everyone with this device, after Jobs's passing and better products from competitors.

[ShaneTrot]

I know you feel the need to justify yourself so that everyone doesn't think you're a blind follower, I was just giving you a hard time pumpkin.

I have a 4, wife has a 4S, the kids have an iPad and latest generation iPod Touches. I know I have several hundred dollars in app purchases, plus my wife knows how to use her apps. The thought of re-training her is frightening. I have been an Apple fanboy since the 80's so I am not surprised by the stickiness of the platform.

[mt8thsw9th]

There was so much backlash over the 4S being only an "S" upgradge, with the same housing, that I can't see Apple releasing a phone that doesn't have a bigger screen.

Wasn't the 4S their best-selling phone ever? The whole bigger screen thing sucks unless they want to include thumb extensions. I have reasonably large hands and the form factor is still absolutely perfect for one hand use.

And for the record, I think there's zero chance it's called the 5, as it's the 6th phone, and I would imagine it's going to be called the iPhone LTE to advertise that feature. If they can't fix the battery life drop that was 4->4S, I don't see what good adding a much bigger screen on top of LTE would do.

Edited by mt8thsw9th, 27 June 2012 - 10:21 AM.

[FL4WL3SS]

I have a 4, wife has a 4S, the kids have an iPad and latest generation iPod Touches. I know I have several hundred dollars in app purchases, plus my wife knows how to use her apps. The thought of re-training her is frightening. I have been an Apple fanboy since the 80's so I am not surprised by the stickiness of the platform.

I was mainly giving TFP a hard time - I completely understand the ecosystem argument. It was a very real point of contention for me when I wanted to upgrade my 3G; the phone market was developing as such that I knew my next phone was going to ingrain me in an ecosystem and I had to make a decision to stay with Apple or go with Android. I made the exact argument when discussing the decision with people. You're no longer investing in a phone, but you're investing in a platform.

[canderson]

I'm worried most about the pin connector changing, I have a billion charges all over the place that I'm not keen on paying to replace.

[crow216]

I'm worried most about the pin connector changing, I have a billion charges all over the place that I'm not keen on paying to replace.

It's definitely going to suck. I have a charger in my car, in my office, in my living room, and in my bedroom. I'll be buying some aftermarket converters.

[Yaz4Ever]

I'm worried most about the pin connector changing, I have a billion charges all over the place that I'm not keen on paying to replace.

I don't understand this argument and I've heard it a lot. The chargers you have presumably came from devices you purchased, no? They would still work with those devices. I can't tell you how many 30 pin chargers we have around the house with 3 iPhones, 2 iPod Touches, 1 iPad, etc.

Of course, if you're talking about 3rd party chargers (car, etc), I'd be completely wrong and you would be justifiably concerned about having to purchase new chargers to replace these.

edit: and, as I'm typing this, crow216 responds and makes my first question moot.

How cool would it be for Apple to include a 30-pin to whatever (micro USB?) adapter with the new phone just because of this? Doubt they will when they can make more money, but it would be excellent PR for them to head off all the complaints.

Edited by Yaz4Ever, 27 June 2012 - 10:57 AM.

[Bongorific]

Wasn't the 4S their best-selling phone ever? The whole bigger screen thing sucks unless they want to include thumb extensions. I have reasonably large hands and the form factor is still absolutely perfect for one hand use.

And for the record, I think there's zero chance it's called the 5, as it's the 6th phone, and I would imagine it's going to be called the iPhone LTE to advertise that feature. If they can't fix the battery life drop that was 4->4S, I don't see what good adding a much bigger screen on top of LTE would do.

It's like the Don pitch to Dow in last season's Mad Men. Even though it was their best-selling phone, they could do better. Scrolling through comments on a lot of tech blogs/websites, it's clear a lot of people were hoping for a more significant upgrade. It's even evident in our thread here. I've sat on my BB for an extra year because the 4S didn't wow me enough. I'm not saying my opinion is correct, just that there are many who didn't upgrade because of the unchanged hardware (minus cpu/gpu improvement). They can make the screen larger without changing the form factor that much. Think of the Galaxy SIII but shrunk down.

I could see them just calling it the new iphone, as they did with the ipad.

[Tony C]

Wasn't the 4S their best-selling phone ever? The whole bigger screen thing sucks unless they want to include thumb extensions. I have reasonably large hands and the form factor is still absolutely perfect for one hand use.

Size does matter, and agree I don't want a wider phone both for convenience reasons and aesthetic reasons. I've read they may extend the length somewhat, and perhaps that could work elegantly enough, but would have to see. My IP4 is at replacement time, too, so definitely will get a new phone this fall/winter. Either the new Iphone or if Windows 8 is out by then on Verizon, I love those phones. Androids just seem a mess to me, though I'm sure they're better than when I last checked them out seriously. But...first impressions and all that.

[derekson]

It's like the Don pitch to Dow in last season's Mad Men. Even though it was their best-selling phone, they could do better. Scrolling through comments on a lot of tech blogs/websites, it's clear a lot of people were hoping for a more significant upgrade. It's even evident in our thread here. I've sat on my BB for an extra year because the 4S didn't wow me enough. I'm not saying my opinion is correct, just that there are many who didn't upgrade because of the unchanged hardware (minus cpu/gpu improvement). They can make the screen larger without changing the form factor that much. Think of the Galaxy SIII but shrunk down.

I could see them just calling it the new iphone, as they did with the ipad.

I would be shocked if they don't just call it "the new iPhone".

[crow216]

It's like the Don pitch to Dow in last season's Mad Men. Even though it was their best-selling phone, they could do better. Scrolling through comments on a lot of tech blogs/websites, it's clear a lot of people were hoping for a more significant upgrade. It's even evident in our thread here. I've sat on my BB for an extra year because the 4S didn't wow me enough. I'm not saying my opinion is correct, just that there are many who didn't upgrade because of the unchanged hardware (minus cpu/gpu improvement). They can make the screen larger without changing the form factor that much. Think of the Galaxy SIII but shrunk down.

I could see them just calling it the new iphone, as they did with the ipad.

It wasn't a huge upgrade but don't read blogs/websites to decide if you want the phone or not. Go use it. No matter what comes out, blogs and websites are going to say they were expecting more and the reason for that is that rumors for the new iPhone start immediately after they release their yearly new edition. You hear stuff about tactile displays, world phone, bigger screen, two iPhone launches, crazy dimensions, 3d, new ports, sd slots...etc. iPhone fans and haters hear all this stuff then make a big deal when it doesn't happen.

[Blacken]

They can make the screen larger without changing the form factor that much.

This isn't really true. Changing the screen dimensions means either changing the PPI or changing the screen resolution. They didn't change the screen resolution going to the iPhone 4 (the retina display is still addressed internally as 480x320 unless you do some magic, and most applications don't) and changing the PPI is going to mess with their UX guidelines and result in an inconsistent experience between different devices. The iPhone 4 and 4S aren't going to go away; one or the other will probably become the new bottom-tier free-with-contract phone, and so it's in Apple's interest to keep developers writing apps that are compatible with them.

Apple hasn't given any indication of having a problem with the screen size on their devices. A change would be pretty out-of-character for them.

[behindthepen]

The new CPU will absolutely be more power efficient. 10-20% according to Anandtech's analysis on the ipad. That gives them some budget on lighting a bigger screen and/or pushing LTE, although their version of LTE will be a little better than what is in the market today (because it will be using the latest baseband chip from QCOM at 28nm).

The rumor in Asia today was that it will be an AUGUST launch. Not clear if that was a reference to when they would start building or start selling at retail though.

[behindthepen]

and as for upgrades, I forgot to add that they will likely have in-cell touch panels, which allows them to eliminate a layer of glass on the touchscreen. Although there is some concern about the yields on that technology and whether or not it will be ready for commercial deployment in time.

[Bongorific]

It wasn't a huge upgrade but don't read blogs/websites to decide if you want the phone or not. Go use it. No matter what comes out, blogs and websites are going to say they were expecting more and the reason for that is that rumors for the new iPhone start immediately after they release their yearly new edition. You hear stuff about tactile displays, world phone, bigger screen, two iPhone launches, crazy dimensions, 3d, new ports, sd slots...etc. iPhone fans and haters hear all this stuff then make a big deal when it doesn't happen.

I did use it. My friend and his wife got an SII and 4S respectively on the same day and I played with both. After becoming an ipad owner and getting used to iOS I much preferred that to Android. But the hardware looked really dated sitting next to the SII. In the end I wasn't ready to spend 2 years with either device. The SII is a bit too big and the software a bit too segmented.

[dirtynine]

I don't understand this argument and I've heard it a lot. The chargers you have presumably came from devices you purchased, no? They would still work with those devices. I can't tell you how many 30 pin chargers we have around the house with 3 iPhones, 2 iPod Touches, 1 iPad, etc.

Of course, if you're talking about 3rd party chargers (car, etc), I'd be completely wrong and you would be justifiably concerned about having to purchase new chargers to replace these.

edit: and, as I'm typing this, crow216 responds and makes my first question moot.

How cool would it be for Apple to include a 30-pin to whatever (micro USB?) adapter with the new phone just because of this? Doubt they will when they can make more money, but it would be excellent PR for them to head off all the complaints.

It would be even cooler if they included inductive (i.e., non-tethered) charging - thus cutting the final cord for the iPhone. They severed the need for cabled syncing and upgrading; they introduced AirPlay for sound and video transfer and AirPlay mirroring for presentation. The only reason iPhones need a connector now is for charging. It wouldn't surprise me if they're working hard to obviate that final tether. It would also make the transition a lot easier. Instead of a bunch of cables you need an adapter for, you just have a new phone that wouldn't have needed cables anyway. (But if you do want to plug it in, you use a smaller, likely speedier, cable). That's a much better sell from Apple's perspective.

This isn't really true. Changing the screen dimensions means either changing the PPI or changing the screen resolution. They didn't change the screen resolution going to the iPhone 4 (the retina display is still addressed internally as 480x320 unless you do some magic, and most applications don't) and changing the PPI is going to mess with their UX guidelines and result in an inconsistent experience between different devices. The iPhone 4 and 4S aren't going to go away; one or the other will probably become the new bottom-tier free-with-contract phone, and so it's in Apple's interest to keep developers writing apps that are compatible with them.

Apple hasn't given any indication of having a problem with the screen size on their devices. A change would be pretty out-of-character for them.

Actually, the current rumors have the phone's screen increasing in height but not width. This would allow the total screen real-estate to increase without a PPI change. Retina 3.5" displays are currently 960x640; the increase (if the rumors are right) would be to 1136x640, giving you a taller, 4" diagonal screen. How Apple intros the change to devs, if it's real, and uses the extra space, is a good question - but current apps could run fine with a band of extra space either above or below. Or, they could use that strip for notifications, and keep apps the same size... it's anybody's guess.

[graffam198]

I've been struggling with my 3G for a while now -- it got noticeably slower with iOS5. I had been contemplating buying a used 4 or 4S to tide me over. But if we're really looking at 9/30, I will be all over that.

It is probably your battery dude. We gave our 3gs to our au pair and it was slow and sad. Turns out the battery was swolen. For 80 bucks we got a brand new 3gs for her and it works just as well our 4's. 80 bucks isn't bad to hold you over.

[jayhoz]

It would be even cooler if they included inductive (i.e., non-tethered) charging - thus cutting the final cord for the iPhone. They severed the need for cabled syncing and upgrading; they introduced AirPlay for sound and video transfer and AirPlay mirroring for presentation. The only reason iPhones need a connector now is for charging. It wouldn't surprise me if they're working hard to obviate that final tether. It would also make the transition a lot easier. Instead of a bunch of cables you need an adapter for, you just have a new phone that wouldn't have needed cables anyway. (But if you do want to plug it in, you use a smaller, likely speedier, cable). That's a much better sell from Apple's perspective.

The challenge is that customers would have to buy an expensive inductive charging mat anyway, it would add bulk and weight to the device, and wouldn't solve the accessory compatibility issue.

[Van Everyman]

It is probably your battery dude. We gave our 3gs to our au pair and it was slow and sad. Turns out the battery was swolen. For 80 bucks we got a brand new 3gs for her and it works just as well our 4's. 80 bucks isn't bad to hold you over.

That's an interesting suggestion. As a Mac user, I'm used to Apple batteries dying -- but usually the symptom isn't performance so much as battery life. I should look into that...

[graffam198]

That's an interesting suggestion. As a Mac user, I'm used to Apple batteries dying -- but usually the symptom isn't performance so much as battery life. I should look into that...

You just have to be real insistent. I knew the battery was going b/c it was just shutting off, but look for other tell tale signs, like a swolen case or stress marks on the back of the phone. If you wanted a plain old 3g, you could probably get that for like 50 bucks, makes a heck of a nice iPod too when you get the new 5. Make sure you back up your phone before you go in though b/c they take it and won't give it back. Our nannies phone was in russian so that was also interesting as I had no idea what the hell she had on there and was hoping that she had set up the iCloud. It was a painless 15 minutes. Schedule it when they are doing "genius bar" activities. It is awesome to watch those little hipster shit try and explain stuff to the elderly crowd. Neither of them know how to communicate with the other.

[Van Everyman]

Thanks for the tips. My problem is that I have a 32 gb 3GS (just realized -- I have a 3GS, not a 3G). Seems like all the 3GS's and 4's that Apple sells are 8 gb -- and there's just no way I'll make it a week w that little storage.

The grey market seems to sell these for ridiculous prices -- $250+. Assume that's because they're unlocked.

[Papelbon's Poutine]

Any word on the rumor that it would be hermetically sealed? Having a waterproof iPhone would friggin rock.

My only other hope is that there is no delay on the white model again and there's plenty in stock.

[derekson]

They had plenty of white models for the new iPad and the 4S when they came out. I doubt that will happen again.

[weeba]

Wasn't the 4S their best-selling phone ever? The whole bigger screen thing sucks unless they want to include thumb extensions. I have reasonably large hands and the form factor is still absolutely perfect for one hand use.

And for the record, I think there's zero chance it's called the 5, as it's the 6th phone, and I would imagine it's going to be called the iPhone LTE to advertise that feature. If they can't fix the battery life drop that was 4->4S, I don't see what good adding a much bigger screen on top of LTE would do.

This was a great image showing some of the thought behind the size of the iPhones:

[FL4WL3SS]

http://www.uswitch.c...isplay_by_sony/

Pretty interesting.

[jayhoz]

This was a great image showing some of the thought behind the size of the iPhones:

Why would you position your hands like that (thumbs below the screen)? I put my hands on either side of the phone with my thumbs in the center of the screen. I have no issue reaching any point on my 4.3" screen.

[weeba]

Why would you position your hands like that (thumbs below the screen)? I put my hands on either side of the phone with my thumbs in the center of the screen. I have no issue reaching any point on my 4.3" screen.

I don't think they're showing the thumb below the screen. They're showing if you put your thumb in the middle, on the iPhone you can touch just about all corners of the screen; where on a larger phone, there are places you cannot reach without readjusting.

[FL4WL3SS]

Which is fucking stupid considering everyone has different length fingers. Also, that's not even the US version of the SII, the US versions are much bigger

[jayhoz]

I just tried the single thumb in the center method (heh heh). I was able to reach the entire screen, but I'm toast for the rest of the day. Seriously, I need a nap. [/sarcasm]

[Van Everyman]

Not to derail this thread entirely. But after a little hunting on the Apple support boards, I found a solution to squeezing more life out of my 3GS. Basically, the answer is to disable iCloud features and turn off most of the notifications. Also, to restart the phone every three or four days. The phone is way faster now.

I still want the iPhone 5 but this should hold me over for the time being.

[mt8thsw9th]

I just tried the single thumb in the center method (heh heh). I was able to reach the entire screen, but I'm toast for the rest of the day. Seriously, I need a nap. [/sarcasm]

Did you break a sweat, though?

[jayhoz]

We're saved!!

[Alcohol&Overcalls]

We're saved!!

This will make texting while driving much safer too!

I can't remember the last time I saw somebody use one hand to type on their phone ... and that's probably for the best.

[GlenMorangie]

We're saved!!

The most appalling thing about this isn't the design. The most appalling thing is how badly this person needs a manicure.

[behindthepen]

I know we are probably about 3 months away still, but since it's already impacting the market for smartphones, it's time to get ready for it.

The current conventional wisdom:
-Launches sometime around Sept 30, give or take a few weeks.
-larger screen size
-metal backing
-will have the 32nm version of the A5x.  Still a dual-core apps processor, but with the additional GPU cores, compared to the A5x in most ipads today it will be smaller and more power-efficient. (http://www.anandtech...-32nm-a5-tested)
-ios6
-LTE


-edit to add:  in-cell touch panels, which will eliminate a layer of glass on the touchscreen.

This COULD be the phone that finally seduces me away from Android.

just a few weeks away from the announcement now ... the current expectation is Sept 12 announcement and delivery in the US a couple of weeks later.
some additions to features:-in-cell touch panels are definitely in, and are actually causing a slower ramp in volume production.
-thinner as a result of in-cell, with the rumors of 7.6mm (vs. the 4s at 9.3mm).
-I keep hearing NFC is in, although I'm not sure who will care, in the US at least.

The bigger question for me is, "what's this year's Siri?", the feature that noone anticipates that generates more hype?  I've heard rumors of the laser-projected keyboard, probably stoked by the youtube that some guy created to show off the concept.

edit: to add that a new pin connector is coming too.

Edited by behindthepen, 23 August 2012 - 11:21 AM.