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[CaptainLaddie]

Here are mine, based on the current voting:

C Mike Napoli TEX
1B Prince Fielder DET
2B Ian Kinsler TEX
3B Adrian Beltre TEX
SS Derek Jeter NYY
OF Josh Hamilton TEX
OF Curtis Granderson NYY
OF Jose Bautista TOR
DH David Ortiz BOS

P Joel Justin Verlander DET
P David Price TBR
P Brandon McCarthy OAK
P Felix Hernandez SEA
P Jason Hammel BAL
P Chris Sale CHW
P Jered Weaver LAA
P CC Sabathia NYY
P Jake Peavy CHW
P Yu Darvish TEX
P Jonathan Broxton KCR
P Chris Perez CLE
P Jim Johnson BAL
P Fernando Rodney TBR

C Joe Mauer MIN
IF Paul Konerko CHW
IF Miguel Cabrera DET
IF Asdrubal Cabrera CLE
OF Mike Trout LAA
OF Mike Trumbo LAA
OF Adam Jones BAL


NL Team
C Buster Posey SFG
1B Joey Votto CIN
2B Dan Uggla ATL
3B David Wright NYM
SS Rafael Furcal STL
OF Matt Kemp LAD
OF Carlos Beltran STL
OF Melky Cabrera SFG
DH Ryan Braun MIL

P Stephen Strasburg WAS
P Clayton Richard SDP
P RA Dickey NYM
P James McDonald PIT
P Wade Miley ARI
P Matt Cain SFG
P Brandon Beachy ATL
P Gio Gonzalez WAS
P Johnny Cueto CIN
P Ryan Dempster CHC
P Craig Kimbrel ATL
P Santiago Castilla SFG
P Joel Hannahan PIT
P Jonathan Papelbon PHI

C Carlos Ruiz PHL
IF Giancarlo Stanton MIA
IF Aaron Hill ARI
IF Jed Lowrie HOU
OF Matt Holliday STL
OF Andrew McCutchen PIT
OF Carlos Gonzalez COL


I have the NL starting Braun at DH.

I also suspect Bryce Harper gets in on the 32nd man vote. A hunch.

Edited by CaptainLaddie, 24 June 2012 - 09:05 PM.

[MakMan44]

It's fucking sad that the Sox will probably only have one all star this year. I also wonder if Reddick may get on the roster somehow, he's been good this year. I do like most of your roster choices.

[Hendu's Gait]

Here are mine, based on the current voting:

C Mike Napoli TEX
1B Prince Fielder DET
2B Ian Kinsler TEX
3B Adrian Beltre TEX
SS Derek Jeter NYY
OF Josh Hamilton TEX
OF Curtis Granderson NYY
OF Jose Bautista TOR
DH David Ortiz BOS

P Joel Verlander DET
P David Price TBR
P Brandon McCarthy OAK
P Felix Hernandez SEA
P Jason Hammel BAL
P Chris Sale CHW
P Jered Weaver LAA
P CC Sabathia NYY
P Jake Peavy CHW
P Yu Darvish TEX
P Jonathan Broxton KCR
P Chris Perez CLE
P Jim Johnson BAL
P Fernando Rodney TBR

C Joe Mauer MIN
IF Paul Konerko CHW
IF Miguel Cabrera DET
IF Asdrubal Cabrera CLE
OF Mike Trout LAA
OF Mike Trumbo LAA
OF Adam Jones BAL


NL Team
C Buster Posey SFG
1B Joey Votto CIN
2B Dan Uggla ATL
3B David Wright NYM
SS Rafael Furcal STL
OF Matt Kemp LAD
OF Carlos Beltran STL
OF Melky Cabrera SFG
DH Ryan Braun MIL

P Stephen Strasburg WAS
P Clayton Richard SDP
P RA Dickey NYM
P James McDonald PIT
P Wade Miley ARI
P Matt Cain SFG
P Brandon Beachy ATL
P Gio Gonzalez WAS
P Johnny Cueto CIN
P Ryan Dempster CHC
P Craig Kimbrel ATL
P Santiago Castilla SFG
P Joel Hannahan PIT
P Jonathan Papelbon PHI

C Carlos Ruiz PHL
IF Giancarlo Stanton MIA
IF Aaron Hill ARI
IF Jed Lowrie HOU
OF Matt Holliday STL
OF Andrew McCutchen PIT
OF Carlos Gonzalez COL


I have the NL starting Braun at DH.

I also suspect Bryce Harper gets in on the 32nd man vote. A hunch.

who the hell is Joel Verlander?

[CaptainLaddie]

He's a special fellow.

[Dollar]

Where are you finding the current voting results? And how is Salty doing?

[CaptainLaddie]

Not in top 5 of AL. It's on MLB.com

I would have loved to have put Salty on the list, but a) Minnesota needs a rep and b) Mauer's hitting just fine.

[Al Zarilla]

Brandon McCarthy has been missing some starts this year, incl. Sat. with an undiagnosed sore arm. Josh Reddick should take his place as the lone Oaklander.

[InstantKarmma]

Kinda surprised that Posey is ahead of Molina in the voting.

I expect Molina to be the backup C instead of Ruiz.

Edited by InstantKarmma, 26 June 2012 - 03:46 PM.

[CaptainLaddie]

With all due respect, Ruiz has a 1.006 OPS in 216 ABs this year. Molina's no slouch, but he's only at .888 in 252 (only). I wouldn't be shocked to see both go. I'm a fan of carrying three catchers in the ASG, although you never see it. Ruiz's WAR is also 3.5 vs 3.1 and his wRC+ is 167 vs 147. He's having a better season, and it's not really much of an argument.

Edited by CaptainLaddie, 27 June 2012 - 12:07 AM.

[CaptainLaddie]

Brandon McCarthy has been missing some starts this year, incl. Sat. with an undiagnosed sore arm. Josh Reddick should take his place as the lone Oaklander.

That's an interesting choice. The problem is that Jones, Trout and Trumbo all absolutely deserve to be there. Since it's in the AL (aka DH) I'd actually consider carrying one less pitcher (13) and running an 8 man bench. But that's me. I'm old school.

[soxhop411]

Ha ha ha ha ha. I love the all star game voting. Selections should be based on stats not fan vote... Fan voting is such a joke

Edited by soxhop411, 01 July 2012 - 01:04 PM.

[Fishercat]

Who else would you put in? I don't see a single truly good candidate. If you're taking RPs, you could argue Atchison. And if you go by advanced metrics, Lester's been a little unlucky. But no one else really catches up. There are AL snubs, but they're not Red Sox.

[soxhop411]

Who else would you put in? I don't see a single truly good candidate. If you're taking RPs, you could argue Atchison. And if you go by advanced metrics, Lester's been a little unlucky. But no one else really catches up. There are AL snubs, but they're not Red Sox.

Was going to edit it, but I mean in general its a joke. The All star selections should be based on a players stats, not fan vote..... Every year there are deserving players (like reddick) who get snubbed due to fans stuffing the ballot box for other players...... I mean its almost a guarantee that there will be at least 3 yankees on every all star game...

[Al Zarilla]

Was going to edit it, but I mean in general its a joke. The All star selections should be based on a players stats, not fan vote..... Every year there are deserving players (like reddick) who get snubbed due to fans stuffing the ballot box for other players...... I mean its almost a guarantee that there will be at least 3 yankees on every all star game...

Ron Washington was asked by a Bay Area talk radio guy about Reddick as the A's rep. and he hemmed and hawed something about never having enough pitching. So, he went with Ryan Cook, who has given up 21 walks in 34 innings. Can't hit him though; he's given up just 12 hits. Cook has had only 46 MLB game appearances, all in relief. Not that Reddick is a veteran, but give me a break. I wouldn't use Cook in a tight game situation if I were Wash.

[MakMan44]

I love how Trout was picked but Harper wasn't.

Although he'll probably get picked by the last voting thing

Edited by MakMan44, 01 July 2012 - 01:32 PM.

[Fishercat]

Eh, Cook's been awesome. I don't mind that pick so much (wish it was Reddick).

Now the NL? They messed up the rotation bad there. Somehow, Greinke, who could be starting for the NL, didn't even make the squad.

[Al Zarilla]

Eh, Cook's been awesome. I don't mind that pick so much (wish it was Reddick).

Now the NL? They messed up the rotation bad there. Somehow, Greinke, who could be starting for the NL, didn't even make the squad.

NL: Sandoval over David Wright. I mean, there were pimping campaigning for Giants votes over the last couple of weeks, but that is a travesty. Not just stats, but Pablo missed about 35 games because of his hamate bone thing.

Maybe I was swayed some about Cook because of his really bad blown save against the Giants a week ago.

[Snodgrass'Muff]

Do we even bother laughing about Jeter making it over more deserving players again?

AL fWAR

Andrus: 2.9
A. Cabrera: 2.3
Aviles: 2.0
Y. Escobar: 1.6
Carroll: 1.5
Hardy 1.3
A. Escobar: 1.2
Peralta: 1.0
Jeter: 0.9

It's not a perfect measure, but it does paint a clear picture that Jeter doesn't deserve to be there for any reason other than he's popular in a huge market.

[czar]

Eh, Cook's been awesome lucky. I don't mind that pick so much (wish it was Reddick).

[soxhop411]

Do we even bother laughing about Jeter making it over more deserving players again?

AL fWAR

Andrus: 2.9
A. Cabrera: 2.3
Aviles: 2.0
Y. Escobar: 1.6
Carroll: 1.5
Hardy 1.3
A. Escobar: 1.2
Peralta: 1.0
Jeter: 0.9

It's not a perfect measure, but it does paint a clear picture that Jeter doesn't deserve to be there for any reason other than he's popular in a huge market.

My point exactly..

[mauidano]

Whatever. It's a popularity contest. Let our guys have the extra rest and family time and get ready for a hard second half. I'll watch some of it I'm sure and cheer for Papi. NO HR contest please Papi. Glad Pedey or Salty didn't make it. They'll live. Use the break wisely.

[Al Zarilla]

Whatever. It's a popularity contest. Let our guys have the extra rest and family time and get ready for a hard second half. I'll watch some of it I'm sure and cheer for Papi. NO HR contest please Papi. Glad Pedey or Salty didn't make it. They'll live. Use the break wisely.

Weird, before they went to a commercial break with AL pitchers and reserves up next, TBS showed Pujols and Pedroia, among others. I thought sure Pedey was going to make it. Good thing he didn't.

[shawnrbu]

Now the NL? They messed up the rotation bad there. Somehow, Greinke, who could be starting for the NL, didn't even make the squad.

Wouldn't be a shocker if LaRussa still held a grudge.

[canderson]

I personally am pissed there will be Red Sox players in the ASG.

[Hendu's Gait]

3 DH's? Is this necessary? Especially when the starter is Papi. (Just kidding on the last part)

[mt8thsw9th]

So when Ryan Cook is a middling reliever bouncing around in 5 years, will he be referred to as "former All Star Ryan Cook", like it actually meant something?

[timlinin8th]

So when Ryan Cook is a middling reliever bouncing around in 5 years, will he be referred to as "former All Star Ryan Cook", like it actually meant something?

"Former two time All-Star Scott Cooper". Doesn't mean a damn thing.

[MakMan44]

I personally am pissed there will be Red Sox players in the ASG.

You do realize that there has to be at least one player from each team on the roster right?

[canderson]

Yes. That too is idiotic.

[judyb]

Wouldn't be a shocker if LaRussa still held a grudge.

No Cueto, either.

[Buzzkill Pauley]

So when Ryan Cook is a middling reliever bouncing around in 5 years, will he be referred to as "former All Star Ryan Cook", like it actually meant something?

Not as bad as it could be.

[BoSox Rule]

I have a question I've never seen asked. There are always complaints about fan voting and Manager picks. Why don't the World Series Managers just manage the game and have the World Series GM's pick the rest of the rest of the players after the starters are picked?

[kazuneko]

The snubs are as bad as ever. In the NL it might be the worst I've ever seen..
Unbelievably, they actually left off the roster all but one of the top six ERAs in the National League ..
Despite that, they were able to make room for Lance Lynn (and his 27th best ERA in the NL) and a collection of 30 (and sub-30) inning relievers...
The Lynn selection is particularly jaw-dropping as there were already two other members of the Cardinals selected (meaning the choice had nothing to do with the "one player per team rule").
Thats not even getting into the silliness not being able to find room for either Jed Lowrie or Aaron Hill despite their league leading OPSs at their respective positions.

Edited by kazuneko, 01 July 2012 - 11:22 PM.

[Catcher Block]

Interestingly, it was the players who voted Lynn into the ASG, and he may have been the beneficiary of some early voting (when he had a 2.80 ERA), according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

Lynn, who was one of the five National League pitchers chosen by the players, was 10-2 shortly before the players' balloting began.

LaRussa's picks, per MLB.com:

La Russa made nine selections in conjunction with MLB to fill out the remainder of the NL roster. The position players chosen by the manager are catcher Carlos Ruiz of the Phillies, shortstop Ian Desmond of the Nationals and outfielders Jay Bruce of the Reds and Giancarlo Stanton of the Marlins. The five pitchers chosen are Phillies teammates Cole Hamels and Jonathan Papelbon, Dodgers starter Clayton Kershaw, D-backs starter Wade Miley and Huston Street of the Padres.

[Al Zarilla]

Not as bad as it could be.

Andrew Bailey. The book isn't closed, but time to show us something, injury boy.

[TomRicardo]

I personally am pissed there will be Red Sox players in the ASG.

No there won't. There will be A player. DHing....

[MakMan44]

Watching the Nats/Giants and they say that the reason that Ku Fu Panda passed Wright at the last minute was because Giants fans wanted Posey and Melky in the game so they clicked a Vote all from Team button (which I don't remeber there being but whatever). They then said that there is a debate about whether this button should even exist. Still better than Don/Remy though

Edit: They say that they learned all this from the Giants broadcasters

Edited by MakMan44, 03 July 2012 - 06:04 PM.

[MakMan44]

Also since Chipper just replaced Kemp does that mean he's also going to miss the HR debry too? If so who replaces him? Not that it's a huge deal, I'm just curious because I can't remember the last time a HR derby player got replaced

[priestvalon]

2B Ian Kinsler TEX

Texas fans were really ballot stuffing that one. Luckily the fans got it right with Cano. Best 2B in the AL, and it wasn't close before the 11 day hit streak. The guy had a slow start but a batshit insane June; he had 2 more HRs in one month (11,) than Kinsler had all season (9.) And except for a brief period at the start, better contact stats. In case you're wondering if the Texas 2B's defensive contributions have been better, Cano has been uniformly better than Kinsler at that too; at rates, chances, range, runs saved and everything.

Kinsler was just a "Me too" vote from all the Texas love.

[MakMan44]

With Stanton being replaced because of an injury there are no Marlins on the AS Roster.

[Al Zarilla]

Sutcliffe thought that Hamilton and Beltre had a report and should be kept together in the lineup.

http://espn.go.com/m...der-lineups-set