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[Boston Brawler]

Per ESPN: http://espn.go.com/n...omlinson-retire

Signing a one day contract with SD so he can go out with them.

[Oppo]

My only regret is that he didn't go out with a horrific, career ending injury

[E5 Yaz]

Let's chip in and send him an exercise bike for a retirement gift

[bankshot1]

[TheShynessClinic]

[DeJesus Built My Hotrod]

Didn't he retire about five years ago?

[TheoShmeo]

Julian Edelman tackling and injuring LDT in the glorious beat down of the Jets at New 16W Stadium last season.

[axx]

That Tomlinson on the bench figure is classic.

[phragle]

How many rings does he have?

[bradmahn]

How many rings does he have?

Two: his University High School and TCU class rings.

Edited by bradmahn, 17 June 2012 - 04:31 PM.

[SoxFanInPdx]

Lights out.

[Royal Reader]

'THAT'S HIS DANCE!'

[soxfan121]

[collings94]

He's a total dick, but lets remember that for a few years, he was as good as any RB has ever been. LT had an untouchable second gear and could burn a secondary like no other. Always wanted a powderd blue 21 jersey for christmas.

Then he played the patriots.

[Boston Brawler]

I know we'll all miss the Electric Glide.

Edited by Boston Brawler, 17 June 2012 - 06:27 PM.

[Reverend]

He's a total dick, but lets remember that for a few years, he was as good as any RB has ever been. LT had an untouchable second gear and could burn a secondary like no other. Always wanted a powderd blue 21 jersey for christmas.

Then he played the patriots.

I think that's part of the fascination: he was the best, and seemingly against all odds he's become the epitome of not-with-a-bang-but-a-whimper.

[Seels]

Wow, him and Hines Ward in the same offseason?The NFL is suddenly a lot more likeable of a league.

[veritas]

I don't get the hatred of Tomlinson. Other than a few unfortunate things he said towards the Patriots (most of them in moments after heartbreaking losses), he's never done anything in his career to suggest he's anything less than a class act. And everyone who has ever played with him or covered him seems to support that too. He was one of the best in his prime and I'm not going to think any less of him for a couple of comments he made in frustration.

And the criticism he got for not playing in a playoff game with a sprained MCL is bullshit. No other RB in the league would have played with that injury either.

[TheShynessClinic]

I don't get the hatred of Tomlinson. Other than a few unfortunate things he said towards the Patriots (most of them in moments after heartbreaking losses), he's never done anything in his career to suggest he's anything less than a class act. And everyone who has ever played with him or covered him seems to support that too. He was one of the best in his prime and I'm not going to think any less of him for a couple of comments he made in frustration.

And the criticism he got for not playing in a playoff game with a sprained MCL is bullshit. No other RB in the league would have played with that injury either.

I mean, he did play for the Jets.

[Soxy Brown]

And he did openly throw his teammates under the bus while simultaneously complaining about how things weren't kept in house.

But besides those times when he's been totally classless, he's always been a classy guy.

[Ed Hillel]

I also wouldn't characterize a press conference as "right after a heartbreaking loss." He had time to shower off and cool down.

[BannedbyNYYFans.com]

I don't get the hatred of Tomlinson. Other than a few unfortunate things he said towards the Patriots (most of them in moments after heartbreaking losses), he's never done anything in his career to suggest he's anything less than a class act. And everyone who has ever played with him or covered him seems to support that too. He was one of the best in his prime and I'm not going to think any less of him for a couple of comments he made in frustration.

From everything I've ever read, his Charger teammates couldn't stand him and were happy to see him go. Rivers actually called it "a relief" when Tomlinson left town. And Gates said, "Sometimes you would get the sense that people felt bigger than the team."

[Pandemonium67]

"We physical. They finesse."

Spoken like a true dick.

[TheoShmeo]

I don't get the hatred of Tomlinson. Other than a few unfortunate things he said towards the Patriots (most of them in moments after heartbreaking losses), he's never done anything in his career to suggest he's anything less than a class act. And everyone who has ever played with him or covered him seems to support that too. He was one of the best in his prime and I'm not going to think any less of him for a couple of comments he made in frustration.

And the criticism he got for not playing in a playoff game with a sprained MCL is bullshit. No other RB in the league would have played with that injury either.

The list is long but LDT's hard on for Belichick is enough for me. Between the gratuitous shot after the playoff game and then piling on after OpportunistGate, the guy showed himself to be a douche.

I don't know how injured he was in that playoff game, but sitting on the bench with your jacket and helmet on and looking like you're a million miles away isn't quite what I'd be looking for if I were his teammate or coach. Especially in contrast to Rivers' gutsy performance that day.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Speaking after a playoff loss and bitching that the Pats mocked the dance that the Chargers used to mock their opponents, and then saying it's because they've got no class, just like their coach, is eminently hate-worthy for all eternity.

LDT is a dickhead and a choker and that's going to forever be his legacy. His regular seasons in SD were excellent, but his playoff record is APPALLING; he had exactly 1 good playoff game in his career and it was in that loss at home to the Pats. Every other playoff game he was in was a massive disappointment. Trying to defend him for the AFCCG in Foxboro is silly; his own QB was out there playing on one leg and playing his ass off while LDT pouted on the bench.

[Toe Nash]

Speaking after a playoff loss and bitching that the Pats mocked the dance that the Chargers used to mock their opponents, and then saying it's because they've got no class, just like their coach, is eminently hate-worthy for all eternity.

LDT is a dickhead and a choker and that's going to forever be his legacy. His regular seasons in SD were excellent, but his playoff record is APPALLING; he had exactly 1 good playoff game in his career and it was in that loss at home to the Pats. Every other playoff game he was in was a massive disappointment. Trying to defend him for the AFCCG in Foxboro is silly; his own QB was out there playing on one leg and playing his ass off while LDT pouted on the bench.

It echoes the routine playoff disappointment of the Chargers team after excellent regular seasons. And it's excellent.

5 playoff teams in 6 years, averaging 11.2 wins a year. 3-5 in the playoffs and LDT performing poorly was a big part of that. Team was held under 100 yards rushing in 4 of those games, and in their biggest rushing game (08 win vs IND) Sproles was the big rusher.

Tomlinson talked big and couldn't back it up when it counted. He'll forever be overrated.

[tims4wins]

[phragle]

Trying to defend him for the AFCCG in Foxboro is silly; his own QB was out there playing on one leg and playing his ass off while LDT pouted on the bench.

How do you know he was pouting? How do any of us even know it was him under all that gear?



I could have been anyone!

[Salva135]

How do you know he was pouting? How do any of us even know it was him under all that gear?



I could have been anyone!

Didn't he wear that tinted shield because he was diagnosed with a migraine problem, and isn't that shield supposedly a huge advantage for a RB because defenders can't see his line of vision and anticipate?

[Old Fart Tree]

Well, he was a super cunty whiny bitch, and also probably the most talented RB I ever got to see not named Barry Sanders. Vaya con dios, LDT. As much as I disliked you (and your very barky SD teams), I thought it was cool that the best back in the league was a Horned Frog.,

[DrewDawg]

He's a total dick, but lets remember that for a few years, he was as good as any RB has ever been. LT had an untouchable second gear and could burn a secondary like no other. Always wanted a powderd blue 21 jersey for christmas.

Then he played the patriots.

He played the Patriots in his 5th game his rookie year. You didn't want that jersey for too long, huh?

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

He played the Patriots in his 5th game his rookie year. You didn't want that jersey for too long, huh?

You really spent time looking that up?

Yikes.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

That's easy to do over at Pro Football Reference. Game logs for every player.

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

To spend anytime checking into someone's throwaway line about liking LDT when he first came into the league is bizarre to me.

It should be spent parsing over all-22 film.

[dcdrew10]

I always thought was indicative of his personality that he used LT as his the nickname, when one of the greatest football players (and fuck-ups) of all time owns that nickname. If he was in a different sport that would be one thing (ie, Roger Clemens, Maurice Richard, Raghib Ismail all being nicknamed Rocket), but you can't do that in the same sport, not when the original was an all time great. It would be like LeBron James claiming Legend for his nickname or Sidney Crosby going by The Great One. LDT is and probably always will be a whiny little cunt.

Edited by dcdrew10, 19 June 2012 - 09:42 AM.

[DrewDawg]

To spend anytime checking into someone's throwaway line about liking LDT when he first came into the league is bizarre to me.

First day on the internet?

This is ALL a waste of time.

[phragle]

If you keep telling everybody that you're classy, you're not.

[collings94]

I'm sure most of you already know this but check it out:

http://www.nfl.com/n...over-super-bowl

Doesn't LT realize he could have won a super bowl if he got his ass off of that training bike?

[TheoShmeo]

But it's the right answer. Ramses Barden, David Carr, Jernal Jernigan, Jimmy Kennedy and Tony Ugoh were among the New York Giants to win a Super Bowl title in February. Are they somehow more "clutch" or true "winners" because they got lucky?

The author of that article uses the above "logic" to back up LDT's preference for the HOF over a SB.

Ahem, the relevant comparable is not players who are a million miles away from the HOF. It's players who are either future HOFers or on the bubble.

My guess is that most of such players would pick a ring, but who knows? What I do know is that what David Carr would do means nothing.

I also know that SD fans love LDT and perhaps I would have if he had been on the Pats. Still, I'm very glad I never had to confront that one. Everything that man says sounds ridiculous to me.

Edited by TheoShmeo, 28 June 2012 - 01:20 PM.

[Rocco Graziosa]

[lithos2003]

Hah I just now realized that the packaging says "WARNING CHOKING HAZARD"...

[collings94]

The author of that article uses the above "logic" to back up LDT's preference for the HOF over a SB.

Ahem, the relevant comparable is not players who are a million miles away from the HOF. It's players who are either future HOFers or on the bubble.

My guess is that most of such players would pick a ring, but who knows? What I do know is that what David Carr would do means nothing.

I also know that SD fans love LDT and perhaps I would have if he had been on the Pats. Still, I'm very glad I never had to confront that one. Everything that man says sounds ridiculous to me.

Exactly. I remeber Charles Barkley saying that he would have rather had his career then Steve Kerr's, and I remember thinking that was unfair because Barkley had a far better career statisticly then Kerr. A better comparision would be i you asked Chuck if he would rather have had his career or David Robinson's. For LT, would he have rather had someone like Marshal Faulk's career.

[collings94]

Exactly. I remeber Charles Barkley saying that he would have rather had his career then Steve Kerr's, and I remember thinking that was unfair because Barkley had a far better career statisticly then Kerr. A better comparision would be if you asked Chuck if he would rather have had his career or David Robinson's. For LT, would he have rather had someone like Marshal Faulk's career.

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

The irony of course is that if LDT hadn't been such a choking dog in the playoffs it's entirely possible he'd had achieved both.

[TheoShmeo]

Tedy chimes in. Here's to others piling on soon.

"I would rather win the Super Bowl championship," he says.

"To get into the Hall, I think the number's 44, right? Forty-four writers, they vote. They decide you were great. ... but a Super Bowl, a championship, is something you earn.

"To win a Super Bowl championship on a team is something you control. You control if you go out and become a champion and win those rings. You have no control about what people think of you. Those 44 voters, they may like you, they may not like you. You can't control that. But you can control winning. And those 31 other teams try to stop you, and try their best to prepare to become champions themselves... but still, you can overcome, you'll have that opportunity to defeat them. And that feeling, to me, is so much more validating to your career."

http://espn.go.com/b...r-be-a-champion

Edited by TheoShmeo, 28 June 2012 - 03:20 PM.

[Ed Hillel]

Tedy is not a very classy person.

Edited by Ed Hillel, 28 June 2012 - 11:56 PM.

[drleather2001]

Tedy should have said, "Yea, I might give up one of my rings to be in the Hall of Fame."

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

Bah, I was just looking through his stats to see if I could make a case that he doesn't even deserve the Hall of Fame, but that's an untenable position. Still, his utter lack of postseason success should be a major mark against him when it's time to fully assess his career. He never won anything because he constantly came up small in the biggest games. And he's a whiny dickbag.

[drleather2001]

Yea, he was supremely talented, but (and I'm entering "intangible" territory here), he never A) performed in the post-season; and B) was the sole focal point of the offense, like Barry Sanders (or Curtis Martin, or Bettis, for a few examples) were. He was always surrounded by some some impressive talent, and a decent passing game, and in my mind that simultaneously reduces the impressiveness of his statistical achievements and heightens the legitimacy of the "not a big game performer" criticism, because while defenses certainly had to worry about him, they couldn't just load up the box. Not to mention, he played in fucking San Diego and in warm weather for the vast majority of games, and didn't have to contend with snow and muck that could hurt his yard totals.

And he's a complete shit-sack. He went to the Jets looking for a ring to cement his legacy, and thank god he didn't get what he wanted.

Edited by drleather2001, 29 June 2012 - 09:45 AM.

[pappymojo]

And he's a complete shit-sack. He went to the Jets looking for a ring to cement his legacy, and thank god he didn't get what he wanted.

The guys is and was a d-bag, but I don't know if he really went to the Jets looking for a ring. I mean, I'm sure every player is looking for a ring and I'm sure LDT said that he felt the J-E-T-S were a great team.

I just don't know if he actually had a lot of teams looking to sign him in 2010. In 2008 in SD, he had 1,110 yards rushing on 292 attempts, both career lows at that point. Then in 2009 (again still in SD), he had 730 yards rushing on 223 attempts. At that point, he was over 30 years old and had put up close to 17,000 all purpose yards of wear and tear on his body.