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[BoSoxLady]

According to John Tomase:

https://twitter.com/jtomase/status/211825746639978498

Melancon up.

Edited by BoSoxLady, 10 June 2012 - 09:33 AM.

[Snodgrass'Muff]

While I'm happy to see Melancon get another shot, this is absolutely not the way i wanted to see it happen. Any word on how long he'll be out? I'm not seeing anything at any of the major news outlets yet.

[rembrat]

Rich Hill to see Dr. James Andrews tomorrow -- Didier Morais (@DidierMorais)

Hooray.

[bosockboy]

Wow...poor guy. Another TJ and he might be done.

[Snodgrass'Muff]

How often have guys need two TJ surgeries in the span of 24 months? Wow... I'm holding out hope it's just inflammation and there's no structural damage. That would be ridiculous.

[bosockboy]

Luckily Morales and Miller are throwing really well and this should be a small speed bump for the LH side of the pen. Still....awful news.

[AimingForYoko]

Good lord. I really hope he doesn't need another surgery.

[mauidano]

Wow! How horrible for Hill and his family if it's serious. Did anyone see this coming? Was there a "moment" when something happened.

[Rudy Pemberton]

Lousy news, although not too surprising. Never thought I'd say this, but thank god the Sox still have Andrew Miller. A real opportunity for him, and Melancon to step up.

[Plympton91]

He almost set a record for recovery time, didn't he? Did the Red Sox crack medical and training staff rush him back too quickly and cause a reinjury?

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Before everyone goes off the deep end here, the injury has been described as "tightness" in his elbow. That doesn't necessarily indicate pain, which I would think would be part and parcel with a tear that would require another TJ procedure. The trip to see Dr. Andrews could very well be a case of sending Hill to see the doctor that did the procedure simply for reassurance. I seem to recall a couple years ago that Beckett made a trip to Dr. Andrews with a similar issue (elbow "tightness") and nothing came of it...at least surgically...and Beckett hasn't had any elbow issues since (at least none that required the DL or surgery). Hill may be hypersensitive to everything going on with his elbow, and needs the doctor who did the procedure to assure him he's not damaged (or redamaged).

And the Red Sox are being overly cautious given Hill's history and the fact that they have two other lefty relievers pitching well and Melancon more than ready to fill his roster spot. They can afford to be without him for a couple weeks if it means he is reassured and can pitch without concern later in the season.

Edited by Red(s)HawksFan, 10 June 2012 - 03:14 PM.

[absintheofmalaise]

He almost set a record for recovery time, didn't he? Did the Red Sox crack medical and training staff rush him back too quickly and cause a reinjury?

Considering he's had 17 appearances this year and this was the first time there has been a report of tightness in his forearm I'd say that the crack Sox medical and training staff did their job pretty well, wouldn't you?

Speaking of the crack Sox medical and training staff, they are new this year. A fact you seem to either be blissfully unaware of, or, you are very aware of it and chose to ignore so you could post one of your typical editorials.

But by all means, let's make assumptions about what is wrong with Hill before he's examined by Andrews if it fits your narrative. And it's not like forearm tightness, or even a re-injury to his UCL, isn't that unusual for a guy who throws a ton of breaking balls like Hill does

[Corsi]

LHP Rich Hill has strained flexor, left elbow. Out at least a month.

https://twitter.com/...289475122970624

[Pumpsie]

https://twitter.com/...289475122970624

Well, that's definitely related to the Tommy John surgery. Hope rest is all he needs at this point.

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Well, that's definitely related to the Tommy John surgery. Hope rest is all he needs at this point.

Valentine (or McAdam paraphrasing) says differently:

Bobby V said Rich Hill was diagnosed with strained flexor muscle in his left arm. Not related to repaired ligament from Tommy John surgery.

[joe dokes]

Maybe it's "not related" in the sense that its not the surgical site or directly attached to it, but my not-a doctor-but-have-seen-this-story-before guess is that it's related in the sense of "the lower portion of his left arm seems to becoming less and less suited for major league pitching."

The flex-or's connected to the ul-nar . . .

[Sprowl]

Maybe it's "not related" in the sense that its not the surgical site or directly attached to it, but my not-a doctor-but-have-seen-this-story-before guess is that it's related in the sense of "the lower portion of his left arm seems to becoming less and less suited for major league pitching."

The flex-or's connected to the ul-nar . . .

Or the flexor has to do more or different work now that it is attached to a thicker, stronger ulnar. It's not easy being only half bionic.

Hill changed his arm slot from nearly sidearm to just above sidearm (from 2:30 to 2 o'clock, from the catcher's perspective) in order to get some more jump on his fastball. It worked, at least as far as movement and velocity are indicators of jump, but a new motion also puts a slightly different kind of strain on the joint. There is no obvious point in his charts to show when Hill's flexor injury occurred or accumulated to the point of pain.

[Plympton91]

^{Assuming this has been building and not acute, it also explains the poor walk rate.}