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[mikeford]

Holland and Germany go through, IMO.

[Phil Plantier]

A Danish win here and the group is wide open. Danes underwhelmed in 2010 but I still can't forget how amazing they were in 1986 (I don't know if the Euros were on TV in America in 1992)

[Verryfunny2]

Not sure if the danes have improved since 2010. I want a dutch win with RVP getting a couple or a close one where Klaas Jan Huntelaar gets the winner which propels him into the Marco van Basten role in 1988.

[cjdmadcow]

Netherlands: Stekelenburg, Van Der Wiel, Heitinga, Vlaar, Willems, Van Bommel, Nigel De Jong, Robben, Sneijder, Afellay, van Persie.
Subs: Vorm, Mathijsen, Bouma, Kuyt, Huntelaar, Schaars, Strootman, Luuk De Jong, Narsingh, Boulahrouz, Van der Vaart, Krul.

Denmark: Andersen, Jacobsen, Kjaer, Agger, Simon Poulsen, Kvist Jorgensen, Zimling, Rommedahl, Eriksen, Krohn-Delhi, Bendtner.
Subs: Lindegaard, Christian Poulsen, Bjelland, Okore, Schone, Silberbauer, Pedersen, Wass, Jakob Poulsen, Kahlenberg, Mikkelsen, Schmeichel.

Referee: Damir Skomina (Slovenia)

[cjdmadcow]

I'll go with the 24th minute for the inevitable van Bommel booking.

[URI]

I have the 8th minute the first time Robben looks at a ref with disgust with his hands out after he rockets a shot with 2 guys on him about 9 yards wide of the goal

[the1andonly3003]

nice to see Adrien Healy calling this game...too bad he isn't paired with Tommy Smyth

[McBride11]

Not having watched much Danish soccer, are they usually a team that packs back on D or the the Dutch just controlling the game that much?

Ohhhh I see, they just really like the counter-attack

Edited by McBride11, 09 June 2012 - 11:26 AM.

[SoxFanInCali]

HA

[SoxFanInCali]

5 hole.

[cjdmadcow]

Instead of the van Bommel booking I got a Danish goal for the 24th minute. Fair swap.

[mikeford]

Apparently Steklenberg is Dutch for Martin Biron

[URI]

HA

You won't be laughing when van Bommel and de Jong actually put Rommedahl in the Doomsday Device at midfield

[McBride11]

[sachmoney]

Robben hit the post, but he should have laid off to the wide open Van Persie. The Dutch don't seem to be moving well without the ball right now. A lot of reliance on individuals right now. When they play together, they're unstoppable.

[teddykgb]

Yeah that was incredibly selfish play by robben. Been really impressed by affelay thus far

[Hendu's Gait]

got in 15 40 minutes late, are the Danes playing their traditional 7-3-0 again?

Edited by Hendu's Gait, 09 June 2012 - 11:44 AM.

[Hendu's Gait]

nm still catching up

Edited by Hendu's Gait, 09 June 2012 - 11:44 AM.

[mikeford]

Man, maybe Nils was right when he told me and sach he didn't think Holland would make it out of the group. This backline STINKS.

[URI]

You know, I'm going to say it...Arjen Robben is incredibly skilled, but he fucking sucks. He's been so selfish in every single big game I've seen him in, that if I was van Marwijk I would consider putting van Persie wide, and starting Huntelaar up top over Robben.

What an asshole he plays like. He's like watching Ricky Davis play if instead of the underlying threat of violence there was a stupid fucking premature receding hairline.

[Verryfunny2]

Free Huntelaar

[Bongorific]

Is it possible for holland's defense to be worse than advertised? I don't have a problem with Robben taking that shot. He had it on his left foot and tried to pull a quick trigger after the interception. No idea what the Danes goalie was thinking on that clear.

[ethangl]

Germany is going to put 4 or 5 past this Dutch defense.

[sachmoney]

RvP should've converted that chance.

I feel like the movement has been really poor since the goal. You can't just expect to score. I don't know if they're disheartened by the score line or what, but that was utter shit following the goal. You can't expect Afellay or Robben to dribble through 3 or 4 defenders to create a chance every time. I don't make any changes at the half, but I expect to see something from the players soon or I bring on a Huntelaar or VdV.

I don't think Van Persie on the wing is smart solution. While he can play out there, he's probably one of your better play makers and he should be in the middle where he can be more influential. On the wing, he'll be less impactful. He doesn't have the pace.

Man, this weak defense makes everything so complicated.

[Phil Plantier]

I think I prefer Curt Menefee to Bob Ley in the position of "hosts who know nothing about soccer" At least Menefee seems excited to be at the party, even if he's not quite sure what the party is about.

Nice to see they unearthed Roberto Martinez, though.

[URI]

He had three guys right on him...his head was down and was only thinking shoot, rather than looking at his wide open teammates.

He was going to shoot no matter what.

[Verryfunny2]

This game needs more beer. ill take a Murphy's, it fits the first half to a tee.

[PrestonBroadus Lives]

Is it possible for holland's defense to be worse than advertised? I don't have a problem with Robben taking that shot. He had it on his left foot and tried to pull a quick trigger after the interception. No idea what the Danes goalie was thinking on that clear.

Totally agree, seems like people jump down Robben's throat at this point any time he does something that could be perceived as selfish. Plus, with the touches Van Persie's been putting on the ball today, he might be having flashbacks to Gomez's terrible touches in the last two rounds of the UEFA.

[URI]

Do you think van Marwijk has brushed off the charcoal off van der Wiel from Krohn-Dehli's goal yet?

[teddykgb]

Is it possible for holland's defense to be worse than advertised? I don't have a problem with Robben taking that shot. He had it on his left foot and tried to pull a quick trigger after the interception. No idea what the Danes goalie was thinking on that clear.

It wasn't the shot itself, which was fine. It was that he played a 3 on 2 into a 3 on 4 by refusing to make the obvious first pass to the best scorer on his team ahead of him, instead choosing to dribble into that same space to create a small window for his left footed shot. Once he passed on making the pass, the shot is OK, but he's got to play RvP forward there and get on his horse for the return pass.

[McBride11]

RvP should've converted that chance.

He actually uses his right foot and it's an easy tap in. I'm continually amazed by how many top players are so one footed.

[Bongorific]

He had three guys right on him...his head was down and was only thinking shoot, rather than looking at his wide open teammates.

He was going to shoot no matter what.

You're right about that. If he connected I don't think we would be questioning the decision though. He probably thought quick interception, on left foot, quick shot, rather that waiting to see if something better set up. I'm ok with that. They're down and panicking a bit.

If Rondo played soccer, he would have made the better look.

[URI]

I would question him because fuck Robben. Fuck his stupid manbaby ass.

[McBride11]

If Rondo played soccer, he would have made the better look.

Maybe how Jurgen can solve the CAM problem. Though I'm not sure how the fake behind the back pass would work.

[sachmoney]

He actually uses his right foot and it's an easy tap in. I'm continually amazed by how many top players are so one footed.

It's not about being one footed so much as being more comfortable with your dominant foot. I think Van Persie has a pretty decent right foot for a guy with a brilliant left foot.

Van Persie getting into good positions...Bendtnering them.

[URI]

van Bommel's hair is the opposite of Scott Parker's

[Bongorific]

So. Many. Chances.

My word RVP

[URI]

It's not about being one footed so much as being more comfortable with your dominant foot. I think Van Persie has a pretty decent right foot for a guy with a brilliant left foot.

Van Persie getting into good positions...Bendtnering them.

Whatever the reason, his refusal to use his right foot there cost the Dutch a golden scoring chance.

[SoxFanInCali]

That was some seriously poor defending. Lucky to not be down 2.

[fletcherpost]

I'd find it much easier to root for the Dutch if they changed the number font on the back of their shirts. I think they peaked in 74. Robben is a cunt. He just exudes cuntyness.
I hate Bendnter too. These teams should never have been drawn together - it doesn't work.

[Tony the Pony]

Man, maybe Nils was right when he told me and sach he didn't think Holland would make it out of the group.

To be honest, I'm not that worried. It could have been 5-3 by now. I'm suspecting this is all part of the plan to have both Germany as well as the corkturks exit in the group stage.

Denmark - Netherlands final. It's 1988 all over again

[McBride11]

It's not about being one footed so much as being more comfortable with your dominant foot. I think Van Persie has a pretty decent right foot for a guy with a brilliant left foot.

Oh I'm sure his off foot will always and forever be better than my dominant foot, and without a doubt he is more comfortable with the left. But as the top striker on a FIFA top 10 team, that should be taken with his right foot, not the awkward cross body outside of foot trap he tried. And mannnyyy top players do this, it's natural, I just am surprised that in all their years of training the off foot is still so out of favor.

[Hendu's Gait]

If Kjaer played in a game refereed by Bill Kennedy, he wouldn't make it past the first 10 minutes.

[sachmoney]

Oh I'm sure his off foot will always and forever be better than my dominant foot, and without a doubt he is more comfortable with the left. But as the top striker on a FIFA top 10 team, that should be taken with his right foot, not the awkward cross body outside of foot trap he tried. And mannnyyy top players do this, it's natural, I just am surprised that in all their years of training the off foot is still so out of favor.

He cost [Arsenal] a game against Chelsea because he pulled the same shit. If he had used his right foot, we'd have won 1-0.

They're not winning balls back easily and they're not keeping possession. May be VdV for Robben and then Huntelaar in for De Jong?

67th minute for the yellow card.

Edited by sachmoney, 09 June 2012 - 12:25 PM.

[Nick Kaufman]

Why are you guys bitching? this is a fantastic game and Holland seems greatly improved on offense compared to the static misery of 2010.

[Tony the Pony]

I hope that was the last time I saw De Jong in a NL jersey.

Here come the Huntelaar goals

Edited by Tony the Pony, 09 June 2012 - 12:29 PM.

[McBride11]

May be VdV for Robben and then Huntelaar in for De Jong?

Good call. Though looks like Robben was not subbed to keep URI interested...

[Hendu's Gait]

nice pass, nice first touch, horrible finish.

[URI]

VDV would have been enough to keep me watching.

And Nick, who is bitching about the quality of the game?

[Verryfunny2]

no way thats a foul, keeper outside the box with a loose ball.