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#1201 deconstruction

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:08 PM

Lebron and Wade: 21-35 FG, 54 points, 16 Reb, 10 Ast

Pierce and Allen: 6-25 FG, 18 points, 7 Reb, 5 Ast


The game really is as simple as that. Regardless of how Rondo and KG play, if the 2/3 matchup is that absurdly lopsided, the Celtics can't win.

Ray and Pierce are hurt, and certainly can't e expected to play as well as Lebron and Wade even if healthy. But they have to be somewhere remotely in the same vicinity. Getting slaughtered like this isn't going to work.


Ray is done--on both sides of the ball. He won't improve.

#1202 Mystic Merlin


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:08 PM

I hope to again see that commercial where LeBron talks about the value of education.

#1203 allaboutthesox

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:09 PM

And that fact just confirms the stereotypes about Southern stupidity.


So if one mentions cutting Florida from the US it is a sign of intelligence? Right, ok.

#1204 deconstruction

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:10 PM

I hope to again see that commercial where LeBron talks about the value of education.


Oh, the one where the kid's scared shitless about becoming a loser and LeBron's like, *wink* "jah mean?"

#1205 AimingForYoko


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:10 PM

Well they'll obviously be on the Heat plane


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#1206 radsoxfan


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:11 PM

I would have liked to see this series with Green, Wilcox, Bradley, and a healthy Pierce and Ray. I'd be happy to spot the Heat Bosh in return.

Would be a very interesting series.....

Edited by radsoxfan, 28 May 2012 - 10:12 PM.


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:12 PM

Anybody want to join me in a Frankenstein-esqe march to Bristol to petition the continued use of JVG for NBA games?

#1208 JakeRae


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:12 PM

So if one mentions cutting Florida from the US it is a sign of intelligence? Right, ok.

No. I didn't say that. However, cutting most of the South would be a net benefit for the remainder of the Union. It's not going to happen and it's a bit of a silly conversation, but those states are a financial drain on the rest of the union. The opposite is true of the position you expressed. (This may or may not be true of Florida specifically. I am not familiar with the quality of their economic circumstances.)

#1209 sibpin

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:13 PM

Exactly what Doc always says - make/miss league. Celtics missed 10 FTs tonight. Their offense in the paint is terrible. LeBron and Wade made some tough shots today and Miller's threes in the first were big as well. Hard to win with 79 points. Refs were definitely below average, but the Celtics did not deserve to win this one. Still, the game was close enough that it still feels like the series is competitive.

#1210 allaboutthesox

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:14 PM

No. I didn't say that. However, cutting most of the South would be a net benefit for the remainder of the Union. It's not going to happen and it's a bit of a silly conversation, but those states are a financial drain on the rest of the union. The opposite is true of the position you expressed. (This may or may not be true of Florida specifically. I am not familiar with the quality of their economic circumstances.)


You do realize that California is a drain on the Union right? The state with the biggest state deficit in the Union and all. None the less, I agree it is a bit of a silly conversation.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:14 PM

Florida is the most dumpster state in the union. Nothing redeemable has come out of there since Less than Jake. Fuck Florida.

#1212 Mystic Merlin


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:15 PM

Refs were definitely below average


'Below average' better describes my bowel movements after a long night of drinking.

I would kill for below average officiating.

#1213 Deathofthebambino


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:15 PM

Yes, then we can give them a hero's welcome when they return to Boston from their 1 game suspensions a la Udonis Haslem.


I'm confused. Are we expecting big things from Sean Williams and E'Twaun Moore in game 2 that I don't know about?

#1214 bball831

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:15 PM

Averaging 88 points since the start of the Philly series.

#1215 SemperFidelisSox


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:16 PM

Ainge is gonna regret not doing Ray for Mayo, if he's not already.

#1216 twibnotes


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:17 PM

You do realize that California is a drain on the Union right? The state with the biggest state deficit in the Union and all. None the less, I agree it is a bit of a silly conversation.


Don't forget Illinois.

#1217 luckiestman

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:18 PM

You do realize that California is a drain on the Union right? The state with the biggest state deficit in the Union and all. None the less, I agree it is a bit of a silly conversation.


i dont think Cali is. I think they pay in more fed tax than they receive back. Their own state budget is irrelevant

why are we talking about this?

#1218 Boston Brawler

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:19 PM

No. I didn't say that. However, cutting most of the South would be a net benefit for the remainder of the Union. It's not going to happen and it's a bit of a silly conversation, but those states are a financial drain on the rest of the union. The opposite is true of the position you expressed. (This may or may not be true of Florida specifically. I am not familiar with the quality of their economic circumstances.)


I've lived in about 8 different states now, all over the country. They all suck, no matter what part you're in. Just be thankful we aren't Europe (lived in Germany for a few years too).

Edited by Boston Brawler, 28 May 2012 - 10:20 PM.


#1219 JohnnyTheBone

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:20 PM

I feel like Randall P. McMurphy during the final scene of Cuckoo's Nest.

#1220 AimingForYoko


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:21 PM

i dont think Cali is. I think they pay in more fed tax than they receive back. Their own state budget is irrelevant

why are we talking about this?


The poster got snippy about Florida, someone got snippy back. I think we're all just pissed off and/or drunk.

I am anyway. And Florida as a state is still a blight on the human race.

Edited by AimingForYoko, 28 May 2012 - 10:23 PM.


#1221 Mystic Merlin


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:21 PM

Speaking of Unions, how 'bout we bust the NBA refs' union?

#1222 loafnut

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:21 PM

i dont think Cali is. I think they pay in more fed tax than they receive back. Their own state budget is irrelevant

why are we talking about this?


Good question. But you are right about Cali.

California gets .78 cents back for every dollar they pay in. NM and MS have the highest ratio, getting back $2 for every dollar they pay in.

http://www.taxfounda...show/22659.html

#1223 allaboutthesox

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:22 PM

It will be interesting to see how Doc manages Ray Allen's playing time going forward. He hasn't played well for a couple of games now and isn't even necessarily a sure thing at the line (shooting 65% in the playoffs coming into tonight). I am just wondering who can actually step up and fill in that role right now.

That second quarter was fantastic for the C's and it is a shame they couldn't find that rhythm in second half.

#1224 mandro ramtinez

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:23 PM

Hoping the C's can pull a game 2 of the 2010 finals next game.

#1225 luckiestman

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:25 PM

watching ray allen at the line was as shocking to me as some of the absurd technical fouls

#1226 twibnotes


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:27 PM

Speaking of Unions, how 'bout we bust the NBA refs' union?


Amen. Pitiful

#1227 JakeRae


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:38 PM

You do realize that California is a drain on the Union right? The state with the biggest state deficit in the Union and all. None the less, I agree it is a bit of a silly conversation.

The most recent figures I can find are from 2005. California contributed $8,028 per capita to the country and took back $6,709. Florida was at $7,649 paid and $7,615 received (this matches my perception and reticence to lump Florida in with the rest of the South as a net-receiver.) Care to defend your statement that California is a drain?

#1228 JakeRae


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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:39 PM

i dont think Cali is. I think they pay in more fed tax than they receive back. Their own state budget is irrelevant

why are we talking about this?

The basketball game was so depressing we switched to a more cheerful note: politics.

#1229 deconstruction

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:44 PM

Florida grows shitty strawberries. And ships them to people who don't know the fuckin' difference.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:46 PM

Stephen Smith earning an "A" right now.

#1231 estreetfan

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:47 PM

Stephen Smith earning an "A" right now.


Yes! He said he wants to call the league office.

#1232 estreetfan

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:48 PM

Has anybody ever asked Mr. David Stern about the state of officiating to his face?

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:50 PM

The most recent figures I can find are from 2005. California contributed $8,028 per capita to the country and took back $6,709. Florida was at $7,649 paid and $7,615 received (this matches my perception and reticence to lump Florida in with the rest of the South as a net-receiver.) Care to defend your statement that California is a drain?


It will be a drain when they inevitably ask for federal funding. They're broke.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:50 PM

Stephen Smith earning an "A" right now.


I can't stand the guy, but he nailed it.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:51 PM

Stephen Smith earning an "A" right now.

I had turned off the postgame, but needed to see this. Wow. It's surprising to see such blunt honesty from a network that so rarely contributes anything but star-fucking.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:52 PM

I had turned off the postgame, but needed to see this. Wow. It's surprising to see such blunt honesty from a network that so rarely contributes anything but star-fucking.


Anyone have details on what he said? I'm bummed I missed it

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 10:59 PM

He said how ridiculous the techs were.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:02 PM

Celtics aren't going to win this series but it'd be nice if the refs would just stay the fuck out of the way and let the players play without any stupid BS. You simply cannot go into Miami without having to deal with this shit.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:05 PM

Anyone have details on what he said? I'm bummed I missed it


"it was a level of atrocity that should be alarming to all of us"

"I'll probably give 'em [NBA league office] a call tomorrow"

"that's got to be coming from the league"

"Ray Allen is one of the classiest people on the world"

"ray allen literally turning around from the referee, saying "no, and walking away"

"it makes you guard everything that you do. It's ridiculous. it makes no sense whatsoever"

"[NBA's] gotta fall back [on the disciplining every tiny behavior]"

"without emotion, you're talking about indifference, apathy"

"not here to watch the referees. here to watch the players play and coaches coach (to some extent)"

etc.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 11:06 PM

Can someone post a link to the Stephen A Smith rant? I've been banned from putting on ESPN until Game 2 by my Lady.

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:12 AM

Has anybody ever asked Mr. David Stern about the state of officiating to his face?


Yes... once: Posted Image

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 12:32 AM

SAS rant: http://espn.go.com/b...-worst-ever-had

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 01:07 AM

Tonight was the first playoff game I actually stopped watching. After the third technical foul, it was apparent to me that the NBA was either out to make some God-awful and nonsensical statement that was especially curious given that the Heat are perhaps the most demonstrative team in the league, or that there was some other bias going on from the perspective of the officials. I'm told that the Celtics had a terrible second half, and I'm not really surprised, given the age and health issues, but I think many also ignore the effect that handing out technicals on a whim has on the players, particularly the team being targeted. By making those calls you are telling an emotional team in an emotional matchup to play like robots. If that's what these Celtics are going to be relegated to, I'm not going to support that system. Hopefully, Sterny will send another memo telling the refs to reverse course or suspend the refs responsible for this sham, but I'm not holding my breath.

#1244 lars10

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 03:02 AM

Obamacare takes care of that.....LOL, sorry couldn't help myself there.

very similar to healthcare Romney put in place in Mass... LOL. have fun voting.

#1245 bloodysox

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 11:19 AM



Fucking ridiculous. Still can't believe those T's were called. Something is fishy here...

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 04:39 PM

Tonight was the first playoff game I actually stopped watching. After the third technical foul, it was apparent to me that the NBA was either out to make some God-awful and nonsensical statement that was especially curious given that the Heat are perhaps the most demonstrative team in the league, or that there was some other bias going on from the perspective of the officials. I'm told that the Celtics had a terrible second half, and I'm not really surprised, given the age and health issues, but I think many also ignore the effect that handing out technicals on a whim has on the players, particularly the team being targeted. By making those calls you are telling an emotional team in an emotional matchup to play like robots. If that's what these Celtics are going to be relegated to, I'm not going to support that system. Hopefully, Sterny will send another memo telling the refs to reverse course or suspend the refs responsible for this sham, but I'm not holding my breath.


Or maybe he'll just send them an attaboy.

very similar to healthcare Romney put in place in Mass... LOL. have fun voting.


It's like choosing between Danny Crawford and Ed Malloy last night.