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Posted 13 August 2012 - 09:15 PM

http://www1.skysport...-despite-defeat


"I've already found what I came for in England - beautiful stadium, beautiful pitch and big atmosphere.
"I tried to do what I am used to do. Down to 10, I had to defend a lot and it was more complex.
"Beyond the result, I am happy with that first test. I felt at ease. We still have to sort out some details in attack but it will come. I am confident. I have adapted quickly.
"Playing playmaker or not? I have just arrived and the only important thing to me is to play - in any position. I would be even keen to play at left-back.
"There are a lot of talented players in that team. There is competition - it is the highest level."


Hazard, At least saying the right things when it comes to being pushed out wide in favor of Mata playing thru the middle

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:06 AM

Sloppy sloppy affair, Chelsea looked content to play in 1stgear for the duration.

Oscar was impressive when he came on, definitely improved our possession immediately.

No Ramires or Marin had us lineup:

Torres

bertrand hazard mata

lamps Obi

Cole Terry Luiz Ivan

Would love for us to get that Moses deal done and let him rotate with Hazard, Mata, Marin, Oscar in the attacking spots and move Ramires back to CM, pace needed there

Edited by Snakebauer007, 19 August 2012 - 09:44 AM.


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Posted 22 August 2012 - 02:52 PM

Some first half observations vs. Reading:

- Petr Cech will not include the 2nd goal on his personal highlight reel. A first-rate howler.
- Hazard drew his second penalty of the season and Lampard smashed it home. Hazard is really fascinating to watch, especially off the ball. However - he and Mata keep ending up in the same space. Both are instinctual attacking mids and both seem to anticipate the play really well, which means two guys doing essentially the same thing.
- Torres should be congratulated for not punching Ramires in the face over that atrocious shot/decision early in the match. A simple pass = a simple goal. Instead, Ramires tries to get fancy with his off-foot and ignores the wide open man.
- Reading should be commended for their performance thus far. Organized in the back, not overwhelmed and exposing the lack of pace in the Chelsea back line. I think Chelsea comes back here in the 2nd half to win it but Reading aren't pushovers and their play today has been quality.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 03:25 PM

What's a half yard of offside between friends?

Chelsea deserve to be ahead, but that was laughable. It looked like Nando was assuming the flag would be up, then started celebrating when he realized it was going to count.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 03:26 PM

Great 2nd half for Chelsea, but Fernando was clearly offside, no?

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 03:35 PM

Heartbreaking for Reading to lose the point on such an obviously blown call by the officials. He was offside by a yard - it wasn't even debatable.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 03:39 PM

Ha, goal #4 was ridiculously offside, too. Only one player between the target and the goal.

Edit: Bah, Ivanovic was behind the man.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 03:46 PM

The two players were already past the 2nd player though...unless you're busting balls...

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 04:33 PM

Two matches in a row Chelsea really took their foot off after grabbing the lead. Definitely fortunate to escape with 3 points, but had some really inspired play in the 2nd half.

Hazard and Mata already have great chemistry developing with so little time together.

Di Matteo has a lot of faith in Oscar already, glad to see him involved in both games, hopefully gets a start Saturday.

Would like to see Sturridge get the start over Torres Saturday, and Mikel or Lampard get a rest too.

Ivanovich has more goals in his last 8 league games than Van Persie(5, 4).

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 08:06 AM

I know this is a Chelsea area so this will be brief but to have the RRRRRs come in and play like they did and then get jobbed out of a point by the (b)Lin(d)esman is really tough to take. That said I really like that we played well at the Bridge. It's a good sign for the boys going forward...also the travelling support was tremendous often the only voices heard singing round the ground.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:00 PM

If I were Reading, I'd have a standing offer in for Freidel in case AVB gets the keeper he wants before the deadline. They're a keeper away from being a solid EPL side.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 02:12 PM

Chelsea set to sign Moses from Wigan, reports were the were asking around 8 or 9 million GBP. Great addition for them, as they can spread the attack out out front, rather than keep getting bottled up in the middle as the Reading game showed.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 03:51 PM

And Moses counts as a homegrown player. But yeah having aguy with natural width, especially who favors the right side is gonna be nice.

Also apparently, signed rightback Cesar azi-can't spell your name for a relatively affordable fee.

Chelsea now have 7 really solid defenders
Terry Cahill Luiz Cole Ivan Bertrand Cesar
And a lot of attacking depth
Hazard Mata Oscar Marin Ramires Moses

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:40 AM

Official

http://www.chelseafc...pilicueta-signs

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:44 AM

He's handsome

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:15 AM

No team had a better off-season and no team is better positioned to make a major jump up in the EPL table. Azpillcueta (was that so hard?) shuffles Ivanovic to the bench and forces Eden Hazard to find another beneficiary of his gifts - anyone who bothers to run up pitch behind him will net a few goals.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:18 AM

Are you sure it means Ivanovic goes to the bench? I haven't seen a lick of Azpillcueta play, but for my money Ivanovic is the second name on the team sheet in defense.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:26 AM

Are you sure it means Ivanovic goes to the bench? I haven't seen a lick of Azpillcueta play, but for my money Ivanovic is the second name on the team sheet in defense.

+1. Can't imagine this relegates Ivanovic to the bench. I think Ivanovic is still their starting right back and occasional centre back.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:34 AM

Are you sure it means Ivanovic goes to the bench? I haven't seen a lick of Azpillcueta play, but for my money Ivanovic is the second name on the team sheet in defense.


Not sure, no. And maybe Ivanovic slides inside to play CB. But Azpillcueta fits the pass & move style more than Ivanovic does, IMO. I've only seen a few games but Azpillcueta has more speed and better passing skills. Given the way Chelsea wants to play, having more speed in defense seems necessary.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 04:28 PM

No team had a better off-season and no team is better positioned to make a major jump up in the EPL table. Azpillcueta (was that so hard?) shuffles Ivanovic to the bench and forces Eden Hazard to find another beneficiary of his gifts - anyone who bothers to run up pitch behind him will net a few goals.

Seeing as how you didnt get it right....

I definitely don't think It relegates Ivan to the bench right away. Ivan is pretty under rated getting forward, mainly because he is such a big physical guy(who is capable of being a solid Centerback), but he has good skill on the ball, and is probably the best out and out defender at the position in the league. That said, I would prefer to see a more attack oriented player like Cesar against competition like Reading, who will make it tough to breakdown. Ivan can play CB surely, but struggled there at times last season, and at the moment would be most people's(Chelsea fans) 4th pick to lineup there imo.

I dont think this is Chelsea's best back 4 since Roman took over, but it is definitely the deepest 7 at the back.

Also, official:
http://www.chelseafc...nsfer-completed

Methinks, that cameo against CHelsea helped move this one along

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 08:45 PM

Seeing as how you didnt get it right....


http://www.danjacobw...ctor-thumb1.jpg

Ivanovic as a defender at RB is excellent and he can get forward effectively and he's certainly good in the air...and I bet Di Matteo is already tired of seeing Mata and Hazard and Marin and Oscar zip past him around the edge or break his ankles on a cut inside. He's first choice against teams that don't rely on wide speed - but as Reading showed, he can be beaten by anyone (McAnuff qualfies, right?) around the edge. Long term, Azpiliwhatever is the plan at RB.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:04 PM

What's your lineup for tonight, Snake?

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:12 PM

http://www.danjacobw...ctor-thumb1.jpg

Ivanovic as a defender at RB is excellent and he can get forward effectively and he's certainly good in the air...and I bet Di Matteo is already tired of seeing Mata and Hazard and Marin and Oscar zip past him around the edge or break his ankles on a cut inside. He's first choice against teams that don't rely on wide speed - but as Reading showed, he can be beaten by anyone (McAnuff qualfies, right?) around the edge. Long term, Azpiliwhatever is the plan at RB.


He had a poor game, but that doesnt show much to me, his track record has been tremendous at the position against some damn good players. That said, he is 28, so cover and a potential replacement were needed

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:13 PM

What's your lineup for tonight, Snake?


What Id play?
Cech

Ivan, Luiz, cahill, Cole
Essien Lampard
Ramires Oscar Hazard
Sturridge

But I think Di Matteo will stick to roughly the same

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:15 PM

DUB

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:43 PM

With that lineup, I'm afraid of the pace you have up front, but I think we can take control of midfield if Tiote is fit and we play 4-3-3. I'm hoping for a point here. A win would be insane but it's still early in the season and some of our players still don't look fit yet.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 09:55 PM

Oscar drops deep enough to be a 3rd CM and would really help win possession, I'm not advocating he should start over mata, On performance, as Mata has been great but Juan hasn't rested in awhile, it's time we start rotating after 3 games in a week

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 10:10 PM

Lampard article in the Times by Oliver Kay:

Success? Its a fine line in this game ... I wasnt born like Lionel Messi

Oliver Kay

It is a wet and windy afternoon in the mid-1990s and, at West Ham Uniteds training ground, the apprentices are packing up to go home. All except one. For Frank Lampard Jr, as he is known at this time of his life, afternoons are for extra running sessions. And wet afternoons are even better since they allow him to extend his repertoire by slide-tackling an imaginary opponent.

Lampards team-mates emerge from the changing room, dressed for the weather, and laugh out loud. One of them, a much-heralded Scotland schoolboy player named Martyn Mullen, looks at him in disbelief and asks "What the f*** are you doing?" Lampard hesitates, stops and then, self-consciously, resumes totally convinced that what he is doing is right, but embarrassed at being caught in the act.

Lampard was 17 years old at the time. He and Mullen were equals. In fact, he regarded Mullen as his superior, much as he did Rio Ferdinand and Lee Hodges, let alone that precocious 14-year-old called Joe Cole. He coveted their skills and envied their lean physiques. If he was to become their equal, let alone surpass them, it could only be through hard work.

Another 17 years have passed. Lampard has made 757 appearances at club level, he has played 91 times for England and with Chelsea he has won three Barclays Premier League titles, four FA Cups, two League Cups and, most recently, one European Cup. There have also been many individual awards, but most special was the one he just missed out on finishing second to Ronaldinho for World Player of the Year in 2005.

Over coffee at a boutique hotel around the corner from Harrods this week he studiously avoided the salted cashew nuts Lampard reflected on what has, by any standards, been a remarkable career. It now has its crowning moment, in Chelseas extraordinary Champions League triumph last season. But its defining moment? Nothing, surely, defines Lampards story more than the afternoons spent alone, running and sliding around in the driving rain at his fathers insistence, while his peers, several of whom he considered more talented, clocked off.

"For me, football was work from a very young age," Lampard says. "That came from my dad [Frank Lampard Sr, the former West Ham defender] really. He always said he was a workaholic footballer, a self-made player. He instilled that in me to the extent that when I was 10 or 11, I was doing all these sprints and different exercises to make me quicker and more agile.

"At times it wasnt much fun. When it was the middle of the afternoon in winter and it was cold and wet, I didnt like it that much. When youre a kid, you want to have fun when youre playing. I used to train four nights of the week and I wouldnt say it was always enjoyable. My dad would drag me out to do it and wouldnt give me a way out. But thats no bad thing. If you give kids an easy way out, they take it more often than not. I didnt get that easy way out.

"That afternoon he [Mullen] was taking the mickey: What the f*** are you doing? That has stuck in my head. We were only kids and he might not have known what he was saying. He was a very talented player and when he came down from Scotland it seemed like he was the big show. It didnt work out. But I dont want it to sound like Im insulting him because I dont know what his situation was."

A few inquiries lead to the discovery that, after leaving West Ham without making a first-team appearance, Mullen had a brief spell on St Johnstones books and soon drifted out of football. Lampard looks disappointed, but not surprised. He does not say "I told you so." But the point is that there are thousands of cases like Mullens. Those who go on to enjoy long and successful careers at the top of the game are the exceptions, not the norm. And it is why, at 34, Lampard is well qualified to offer a lecture to those who he feels are being distracted by the fame, fortune and trappings that accompany their first professional contract.

Lampard expresses concern for the young footballers of today, suggesting that the extraordinary wages they command in their first professional contract often have an adverse effect. "Money is thrown at them, they get a bit of fame, they think theyve made it and its human nature that some take their eye off the ball in terms of training and discipline," he says.

Does Lampard stop to wonder what kind of career he might have had without his slavish devotion to training? Might he have found the Champions League or even the Premier League stage was beyond him? "I would bet my life on that," he says. "I wouldnt have made it to the level I have. Maybe I wouldnt have made it to the level below or even the one below that. I wasnt born like Lionel Messi. I was decent, dont get me wrong, but its a very fine line in football. The ones who dont make it can end up in non-League in six months. Im not saying I would have been one of those, but I certainly wouldnt have got to the heights I have."

And what heights not least in Munich last May. But there was a time, Lampard admits, when he allowed himself to become consumed by the lows. "As a footballer you have to very thick-skinned," he says. "I reacted inside very badly in 2006. I was frustrated it [the World Cup] hadnt gone well and I sunk into myself a bit and got the hump. It was hard to play for England for a while. At Chelsea I felt at home again pretty soon, but with England it took me longer to get my confidence back. I was getting a bit of stick at the time, which didnt help."

Here is the thing. Lampard is a prominent figure among a generation of English players who have performed extremely well at a high level of football for more than a decade. He does it week in, week out, barely missing a game, plundering 20 goals from midfield just about every season. For all that Britains footballers have been cast in an unflattering light by the heroics of our Olympians this summer, it is surely a little unfair for the court of public opinion to deem them failures based on what happens in international tournaments that come not at the peak of a four-year cycle but at the end of a gruelling season at club level.

"I suppose the World Cup is the nearest we get to that Olympic feeling of having to perform at the top level every four years," he says. "Its different for everyone, but when youve played a long season, youre not likely to be at your freshest. As for whether its fair or not, its just the reality. You get judged at these huge competitions. Ive been lucky enough to play in two World Cups, but neither of them have gone that well for me or the team.

"I understand the reaction. Its just the way it is. Theres a lot of rivalry between clubs in modern-day football. If you play for Chelsea, there are going to be fans of other clubs who dont like you. It has just become such a bit part in all our lives and I think theres been a cultural change where people associate with their team so much that it can send their opinion in a very strong direction. But I dont think its for a footballer to try to fight that battle because it would come across wrong, wouldnt it?" It probably would: "Lay off footballers, says multimillionaire Chelsea star." There are millions, he knows, who would gladly swap places with him, even if he would be entitled to remind them that he did not get where he is through sheer luck or pure talent.

"I know Im lucky," he says. "Ive got a very happy life, I live in London, I drive to training at nine in the morning and Im back some days by two.

"I dont know how people look at me. I think if you try to behave right on and off the pitch and keep trying to do the right things, people can identify with that. If you keep your head down and try to get on with your job the best you can, then maybe in the long term people will say You know what? Fair enough, he had a good career over a long period of time."

And far from squandering his talent, as the lazy characterisation of the English footballer dictates, Frank Lampard Jr is the embodiment, like many of those Olympians, of commitment and dedication.

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Posted 24 August 2012 - 10:47 PM

http://www.weaintgot...fa-25-man-squad

Chelsea FC domestic 25 man squad breakdown


http://www.weaintgot...-2012#storyjump
Weekly loan report for the roughly 20 players playing at other clubs

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:43 PM

I have not seen Hazard outside of similar clips, but it sounds like a lot of Chelsea's offense is going through him, hey only scored one goal in which he was not giving the assist, causing he penalty or scoring, and Chelsea has scored a lot. This is much better than I expected. He was the best player in France for the past two years and it has translated very well to the EPL.

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Posted 25 August 2012 - 10:01 PM

I have not seen Hazard outside of similar clips, but it sounds like a lot of Chelsea's offense is going through him, hey only scored one goal in which he was not giving the assist, causing he penalty or scoring, and Chelsea has scored a lot. This is much better than I expected. He was the best player in France for the past two years and it has translated very well to the EPL.


He definitely has set the tone for every game so far, been really impressed. Quickest feet and turns I'veseen at Chelsea since his holiness:



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Posted 26 August 2012 - 11:09 PM

http://thechels.net/...t-august-20-26/

Loan report, for the current 18 Chelsea players at other clubs

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 02:32 PM

And Fernando looks on wistfully as a blur of red and white stripes scurry around him.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:09 PM

That's what £50mill should get you

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 03:13 PM

"Cech double-fists it." - Rob Stone.

HAWT.

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 09:07 PM

Snake - Essien to Real Madrid on loan...why? Mikel & Romeu push him out on performance/health?

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Posted 31 August 2012 - 10:36 PM

Snake - Essien to Real Madrid on loan...why? Mikel & Romeu push him out on performance/health?


Has not really been playing much. Lamps and MIkel are first choice pairing in the Holding midfield pair, Meireles was the first off the bench. Still, it is a long season and Mourinho clearly sees the value of a big squad, while we willingly give players away(Yossi and Essien). Romeu's loan move was cancelled to have an extra body. Overall, definitely the weakest area of the team. Mikel looks really taxed playing with Lampard, who's so slow tracking back on defense. The alternatives are no better though. Hoping Ramires and Mikel get picked together at some point, but RDM is still using Ram on the wing for some reason.

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:46 AM

How did AVB and Drogba get along last year?

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 02:57 PM

The group AVb waged his personal battle against was believed to be:
Lampard, JT, cole, mikel, Drogba, Cech.

But you know, that's all hearsay

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 03:47 PM

And Fernando looks on wistfully as a blur of red and white stripes scurry around him.


I'm late to the party, but I heard that Atletico put on an exhibition against Chelsea.

And, of course, as soon as the game ends, there is talk of Chelsea buying Falcao. If you can't beat them, buy them?

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 07:03 PM

Chelsea and Falcao rumors began a couple of years ago.

No one is that worked up by the Super cup result anyways, just glad no one was hurt

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 02:53 PM

Meireles sold for 8 million.

Unless Ramires or Oscar is moving to the pivot roles, we are real short on depth

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 04:11 PM

Every time I see Meireles, he impresses me. And now Liverpool and Chelsea have both sold him on after 1 year. Something's up.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:18 PM

Every time I see Meireles, he impresses me. And now Liverpool and Chelsea have both sold him on after 1 year. Something's up.


Everytime I see Meiereles, he drives me crazy, I am thankful to finally see the back of him

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 07:21 PM

Could this be a sign that RDM is shifting Ramires back to a central role? If so it is a good move, imo.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 08:08 PM

Could this be a sign that RDM is shifting Ramires back to a central role? If so it is a good move, imo.


Hope so, we need to give him a shot, McEachran's loan can be broken in January when Mikel leaves for the ACN

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 09:36 PM

Seems like Chelsea's best alignment would have Ramires & Mikel, then Mata-Oscar-Hazard all ready to exploit mismatches up the field. Probably wouldn't make Lampard happy, though.

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Posted 03 September 2012 - 10:22 PM

Seems like Chelsea's best alignment would have Ramires & Mikel, then Mata-Oscar-Hazard all ready to exploit mismatches up the field. Probably wouldn't make Lampard happy, though.


Lampard said he'd be fine with seeing a reduced role, if the team on the field was capable of winning without him, he's too smart a player to expect to start 60 games at his age(even if he is in better shape than everyone else, save for Ramires). The biggest issue seen with Ramires in the pivot role, is his weakness in retaining possession/passing, which are strengths of Lampards. It's just that Lampard is so slow these days, when he links with the attack it takes until next week for him to get back. I am not convinced anyone on the roster is suited for the role next to Mikel(who himself has been up and down mightily since we converted to a 4231). Maybe Oscar gets a shot there.

Would love to see Moses given a shot wide right or Marin(when he is healthy), wide left. We're lacking penetration right now, Oscar wont bring that, if you put him out there with Mata and Hazard in the 3 attacking spots I am not sure there is enough threat coming from wide to get the defense on it's heels. Marin or Moses bring some pace and some danger.

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Posted 19 September 2012 - 08:36 PM



Safe to Say Oscar has arrived




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