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Arsenal FC 2012-2013: I only wanted to see you underneath the purple rain


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#51 PedroSpecialK


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Posted 11 July 2012 - 12:52 PM

Those socks are straight out of fetish porn.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 12:55 PM

This doesn't have tribal tattoo design on the sleeves at least.


No, no it doesn't.

What it does have is a graduated high watermark which will be very useful to measure Arsenal's season as you descend into the shit.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:20 PM

Those socks are straight out of fetish porn.


You'd know.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:36 PM

This is why I fear NIke taking over as the supplier of NFL uniforms. Nike ruins everything.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:47 PM

You'd know.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 01:52 PM

They are apparently trying to reach the Red Hat Society demo (When I am an old woman I shall wear purple/with a red hat which doesn't go and doesn't suit me.)

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 03:30 PM

YOU GUYS ARE IGNORING THE REAL ISSUE RVP ISN'T IN THE PICTURE WHICH IS CLEAR PROOF HE'S GONE LIFE IS OVER.

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 06:27 PM

This is why I fear NIke taking over as the supplier of NFL uniforms. Nike ruins everything.

Nike has only had Arsenal and Manchester United, I think, in recent years (as far as top flight English clubs...though I like Nike more than other brands, which might be a generational thing...I like their apparel). Everton and Man City are both switching to Nike. Our deal is over in 2014 and we're apparently already working with Adidas for the future (That dude works for Adidas). We'll see what happens.

I don't hate the kits, but I don't like them either. I hate the sleeves, I guess. The narrower stripes. Terrible. I'd like to see how they look in actual daylight instead of shitty studio lighting though. The warm up shirts that they've been wearing in training look okay. Part of my apprehension when seeing them was the fact that it signaled that these might actually be the away kits.
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I do like the fetish socks.

Our goal kit, though, is even better or worse:
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:05 PM

Why is Woj dressed like a Liverpool striker?

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 07:57 PM

Because he scores as many goals as they do?

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:11 PM

:(

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:47 PM

Sheesh even in the Arsenal thread there's Man U vs Liverpool crime.

Go back north and stay out of London, you tossers.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 01:11 PM

Because he scores as many goals as they do?


Like to see Andy Carroll do this:


I will say, I love that horrible neon red almost pink GK kit.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:07 PM

Arsenal have two 45 minutes games against Southampton and Anderlecht at the Markus Liebherr Memorial Cup down in Southampton tomorrow. The club has named a pretty youthful side, with mostly none Euro participant players like Chamakh, Gervinho, Djourou, Santos, Coquelin, and Gibbs. The good thing is we'll probably see players like Lansbury and Bartley, as well as some youngsters like Ebecilio, Olsson, and Eisfeld.

If you want to see Poldi, Giroud, and the rest of the first team, you're going to have to wait until the Asia trip.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 03:38 PM

Hey guys!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qA1xgEjLWo&feature=youtu.be
No one wins as many preseason trophies as us!!!!!!

Lansbury goal:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLME1FJfYtI
Southampton goal. Gervinho goal.

This match wasn't streamed anywhere, so all I can really say is that it's good to get the results. Pretty terrible defending on the goal conceded though. There's no reason to let a guy free in your 6 yard box like that (just off principle...there wasn't really a good camera angle to see how the marking was, but obviously the striker was free). I still love Lansbury's fearlessness getting into the box. This is a make or break season for him. I'm glad to see Gervinho get a goal because he will be a very important player for us this season. If he can produce 20-25 goals (goals and assists), then it will be a good season for him. He was involved in 12 last season. It's another ACN year though. Hopefully, it's not as disruptive as last season.

Euro-players return from holiday on Monday. Yeah, that's it.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:54 AM

RvP has refused to go to Asia. The odds for a move to Juventus fell from 8/1 to 2/1. Wenger is apparently adamant about not selling to either of the Manchester clubs. Juve is going to have to step up their bid to get this done though.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 08:59 AM

I don't get why Fergie is so infatuated with him. He's a brilliant player. But 29, injury prone, and plays in an area we are well covered in. I don't get it.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 11:58 AM

I don't get why Fergie is so infatuated with him. He's a brilliant player. But 29, injury prone, and plays in an area we are well covered in. I don't get it.

Well, he is better than any of the players you have at that position. The other points stand though. Is the higher reward worth the risks and the fee? Probably not for United.

If I had to guess, I'd say Fergie's infatuation has more to do with the psychological effect of getting one over on Mancini, his new rival, and Wenger, his old rival (less so Wenger). I don't believe either City or United really need Van Persie, but he led the league in scoring, so why the fuck not, right? Of the two, I guess he does represent a true upgrade for United if he stays healthy, but I don't know if It's worth the risk and the fee. I think that selling to City or United is a last resort though, in case Juve doesn't meet the asking price. I would say the intrinsic value for Van Persie is a little north of £15 million, but Arsenal will want more because they will have to deal with the cost of replacing him (fees and wages). With the financial state of Juve and Italian football, I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't meet the asking price.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 12:19 PM

With the financial state of Juve and Italian football, I wouldn't be surprised if they couldn't meet the asking price.

Having recently opened Juventus Stadium, which they fully own and operate, and returning to Champions League this season, Juventus is actually quite well off.

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Posted 20 July 2012 - 12:43 PM

Having recently opened Juventus Stadium, which they fully own and operate, and returning to Champions League this season, Juventus is actually quite well off.

They're better off than they were, but they're still in the transitionary period where they're trying to reduce wages and invest in their youth. They lost €95 million in the 2010-2011 season. I don't think that the numbers are out for this season, but I would guess they did better, though it's hard to say how much. The new stadium and the Champions League are going to be huge, but I'm not sure it's going to change operations overnight. Considering the direction Juve wants to go and the fee and wages Van Persie would garner, I don't think it's farfetched to say that Juve might decide that it's not worth it. I agree that Juve is doing better though. How much better still remains to be seen.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 10:52 PM

What would Arsene do with Willie McGee or Yann M'Villa? He's set.

And some slightly interesting pictures of Alex Song & other Arsenal players on the private plane to Malaysia.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 11:35 PM

They're better off than they were, but they're still in the transitionary period where they're trying to reduce wages and invest in their youth. They lost €95 million in the 2010-2011 season. I don't think that the numbers are out for this season, but I would guess they did better, though it's hard to say how much. The new stadium and the Champions League are going to be huge, but I'm not sure it's going to change operations overnight. Considering the direction Juve wants to go and the fee and wages Van Persie would garner, I don't think it's farfetched to say that Juve might decide that it's not worth it. I agree that Juve is doing better though. How much better still remains to be seen.


Check the main reason for the €95 million loss: loss of media revenue. They'll get a good portion of it back, the matchday revenue should be way up over even 2010, and the rest of the deficit is by choice (player purchases, etc.). They're ready to be players again.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 06:11 AM

http://www.guardian....-cazorla-malaga

Check the main reason for the €95 million loss: loss of media revenue. They'll get a good portion of it back, the matchday revenue should be way up over even 2010, and the rest of the deficit is by choice (player purchases, etc.). They're ready to be players again.

They'll probably be making €50 million more per season between the UCL and the stadium. They'll definitely be significantly stronger. How much do you need to be spending to be "players?" Or is just a matter of them being more proactive than the other Italian sides? It seems like Juve might still incur slight losses, but they'll still be better off than Milan and Inter.

Still hearing that Van Persie is most likely destined to Juve, but it's a matter of getting a fee for him. I have a feeling that Arsenal fans will be disappointed with whatever we get for him. He has to move though, and I don't think Wenger wants to repeat the start of last season.

Anyway, the big news today is that Laurent Koscielny signed a new deal. He improved dramatically last season and proved a lot of people, myself included, wrong. It seems that we might have some stability at the back with Vermaelen and Koscielny for years to comes. I couldn't be more happy about this. Hopefully, we can lock up Song (and Walcott) next.

Our number one target at the moment appears to be Santi Cazorla. You can always tell when Wenger is coy that there's something there, and he was extremely coy when asked questions about pursuing Cazorla. The Guardian is reporting that Arsenal have already agreed to terms, but it's a matter of agreeing to a fee. I wonder how much leg Malaga has to stand on as they've had trouble paying their players and paying transfer fees. Malaga has said that no one will leave, but reality might be different than PR.

Wenger also ruled out a move for M'Vila. Now, I've been hearing for a while that the deal is still on, that it's just been delayed, and that Wenger believes he can get M'Vila for less now that there is less interest for him. It will be interesting if this is true. Wenger said that he wants to wait and see on Wilshere and Diaby. Well, Arsene, you've already said Wilshere is out for a while and Diaby played a grand total of 273 minutes last season. Alex Song might be out in January if Cameroon qualifies for the ACN. It might be nice to, you know, have a back up plan.

Tomas Rosicky will miss the start of the season. This means that Wilshere, Rosicky, and Sagna will all be out for the start of the season. We should be OK at midfielder to start the season, especially if we sign Cazorla. It will be interesting to see how ready Ramsey will be to contribute, coming back from the Olympics. I really wish we were linked with a right back. Now, I think Jenkinson can develop into a decent RB, but he was far from decent last season and it'd be nice to have reliable cover. I think we should spare Djourou the torture of putting him out there.

Right now to start the season:
Shez; Jenkinson, Koscielny, Vermaelen ©, Gibbs; Song, Arteta, Cazorla; Walcott, Podolski, Gervinho

Ox is probably not ready to start full time. I would say 25 starts and 20 substitute appearances should be the goal. I think that part of the problem with Wilshere was that he started 46 games overall in 2010/11. That's a lot of wear and tear. I don't think Wenger wants to make the same mistake with Ox and we saw him hold back Ox last season despite good performances and pressure from the Arsenal supporters. I agree with this philosophy.

If/when Rosicky/Ramsey/Wilshere come back, midfield and the winger position should be a position of strength. I'm obviously concerned about the RB position, but the central striker position could also be a concern if both Bendtner and Chamakh leave (leaving us with just Poldi and Giroud). I've heard rumors for both leaving, but I believe that Bendtner will go and Chamakh will stay. He might actually be able to contribute now that the best center forward in Europe is gone.

Arsenal plays Malaysia XI this afternoon later this morning in its first real preseason match.

Edited by sachmoney, 24 July 2012 - 07:29 AM.


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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:08 AM

Cazorla is a fantastic player. If you sign him I think you'll be much better positioned than last year with Cazorla, Giroud, and Podolski.

Sach, do you not think Giroud will start? I could see him in for Gervinho and pay Podolski out wide on the left like he does for Germany.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 09:50 AM

Sach, do you not think Giroud will start? I could see him in for Gervinho and pay Podolski out wide on the left like he does for Germany.

I honestly don't know at this point. We haven't seen either of them play yet and how Wenger is going to use them. Giroud will start his share of games for sure, but I'm not sure yet if he'll start right away. I think Wenger will keep an eye on his minutes.

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Posted 24 July 2012 - 04:52 PM

Podolski kinda sucks playing wide though

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 02:20 PM

the Purple Rain kits are pretty sharp in living color
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Posted 25 July 2012 - 06:28 PM

Podolski kinda sucks playing wide though


So you're saying he'll fit right in with the Gunners? Cool.

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Posted 25 July 2012 - 07:46 PM

He'll only be a true Gunner when he sustains his first season-ending injury.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 07:40 PM

Luckily, he'll be playing centrally:

“I think Podolski will play more central for us”, Wenger admitted while talking to Tsinghua University students in China on Thursday.



“Giroud is a different target man who would be more the player in a 442, knocks the ball down, protects well the ball, makes play for his partners, and a very intelligent player who has great physique, as well as very strong in the air.”


But the point about the season-ending injury stands.

Interesting stuff if we play the 4-4-2 this season. I hope Wenger is more flexible with formations.

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 08:03 PM

What is a projected best lineup for you guys in a 442?

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Posted 26 July 2012 - 10:46 PM

Assuming everyone is healthy and RVP is gone, a 4-4-2 would probably look like this, I'd think:

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Sagna----Kos----Verm----Gibbs
Theo----Song----Arteta----Rosicky/Wilshere/Gervinho/Ox/Arshavin? (this is the one position that I can't solve for a 4-4-2)
----------Pods----Giroud-------


Shep may have a differing opinion. But I kinda don't think we will play 4-4-2 and it will probably look like this 4-1-2-3 instead:

--------------Woj----------------
Sagna----Kos----Verm----Gibbs
---------------Song--------------
-------Wilshere-----Arteta-------
Theo-----Giroud/Pods----Gervinho/Ox/Pods

And with Giroud in you could even call it a 4-1-2-2-1 since I would suspect given his skill set that he'll be higher up the pitch than the wingers.

But anyway, those would be my 2 guesses at it. I think Arsene made it pretty clear last year what his first team back 4 would be assuming health (and with that crew's history, its best not to assume), Song's a given, Arteta's a given, Theo is probably a given assuming he stays, and everything else seems kinda up in the air to start out. With Rosicky and WIlshere slated to miss the beginning of the year, it'll probably default to Ramsey playing with Arteta in midfield to start out anyway.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 08:27 AM

Obviously, this would be guessing because Arsenal really hasn't set out to play a 4-4-2 in a while. Honestly, I feel a lot of the personnel is best suited for the 4-3-3 (or whatever variation). There are a lot of central midfielders like Song, Arteta, Wilshere, Diaby, Rosicky, who would probably struggle if they had to play on a wing (for one reason or another), and attacking wingers like Gervinho and Arshavin (yes, Arshavin), who might not be able to play back. If certain players are available (may be even any three of those midfielders), then I don't see us not playing 4-3-3.

Assuming everyone is healthy and RVP is gone, a 4-4-2 would probably look like this, I'd think:

--------------Woj----------------
Sagna----Kos----Verm----Gibbs
Theo----Song----Arteta----Rosicky/Wilshere/Gervinho/Ox/Arshavin? (this is the one position that I can't solve for a 4-4-2)
----------Pods----Giroud-------

So the left midfielder would be the big question and I think that it would have to be Ox or that guy we are supposed to sign any day now or we play the 4-3-3. I could also see them going with a Gibbs/Santos combination on the left. It would not be a good idea if Gervinho and Gibbs or Santos were on the same side. It would, in fact, probably be disastrous.

We were supposed to play a friendly in Nigeria this week, but the pitch in Lagos was terrible, so we canceled it. We're trying to schedule another game, even behind closed doors if possible. We're failing thus far. Wenger says that Podolski and Giroud will not be fully fit for the start of the season as a result. I believe that he said he was going to "ease" them into the season. I am not happy about it. But then I dance*:

*I really just wanted to post this video

Edited by sachmoney, 30 July 2012 - 08:32 AM.


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Posted 30 July 2012 - 09:48 AM

There are a lot of central midfielders like Song, Arteta, Wilshere, Diaby, Rosicky, who would probably struggle if they had to play on a wing (for one reason or another), and attacking wingers like Gervinho and Arshavin (yes, Arshavin), who might not be able to play back.


I have seen Arshavin dominate games internationally when playing as an AMC - high up, dropping to gather possession and run with the ball centrally, creating chances with his ability to play with either foot and his vision. I think the reason he hasn't been as effective for Arsenal as for country is that he's not playing centrally. Gervinho is clearly an edge/wing player - Arshavin is clearly a central attacking midfielder. I see very few similarities in their game.

And a 4-3-3 requires Podolski play wide left, where he's been crap for country.

Lastly, the left back spot is a problem no matter who the supporting midfielder is or will be. Gibbs doesn't pay enough attention to defense; he's a LM masquerading as a LB. Y'all should be praying that Mertesacker recovers his form so you can play Vermaelen at LB, with Mertesacker & Koscielny at CB.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 01:06 PM

Yeah, its Santos that doesn't pay attention to defense but good effort, SF121

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 01:19 PM

Ugh, I'll actually have a real conversation with you, SF121. Give me some time, I'm going to be in transit for a bit.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 01:26 PM

Yeah, its Santos that doesn't pay attention to defense but good effort, SF121


Yep - my bad. Santos is the fat guy who doesn't play D - Gibbs is the young guy who hasn't stayed healthy. Good correction, mikeford.

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Posted 30 July 2012 - 07:15 PM

Sorry it's taken so long, I had class all afternoon.

I have seen Arshavin dominate games internationally when playing as an AMC - high up, dropping to gather possession and run with the ball centrally, creating chances with his ability to play with either foot and his vision. I think the reason he hasn't been as effective for Arsenal as for country is that he's not playing centrally.

He dominates some games. Some games he's just completely disinterested. If he dominated every game, Russia would have gotten out of their group. He was terrible in that game against Greece. That's the problem with Arshavin. He's an enigma. He's too inconsistent. Are you sure you want to put him in the most important attacking position?

If you're in the center, you're going to be directing the ball. You're going to be deciding where the ball goes. You have to always be moving, receiving, finding open teammates. You're also jockeying with opposing defensive midfielders for position. If you're inconsistent like Arshavin, if you're not moving and giving the ball away, should you be in a position where you are going to see the ball the most? Especially at Arsenal where one of the strengths of the club is holding onto the ball and keeping possession?

I agree with you that the best position for Arshavin might be in the center. It's where he can be most positively influential. However, what's best for one player isn't necessarily best for the team. It certainly isn't the case here. I personally think it would do more harm than good.

Gervinho is clearly an edge/wing player - Arshavin is clearly a central attacking midfielder. I see very few similarities in their game.

You need to stop thinking in such black and white terms. Really, they're clearly those positions? Arshavin can't possibly play anywhere else? C'mon man, I was hoping you'd learned from Barcelona-Chelsea. There's never any gray area with you.

Arshavin was a great inverted winger when he first came to Arsenal. In fact, he was a huge reason that Arsenal stayed in the top four his first year. Aston Villa had Arsenal looking at the Europa League. At times, he was sensational. Just look at his performance at Anfield (he also had a great strike at OT the following year). You don't need to just have pace or try to get to the touchline to put in a cross. You can slalom through defenders, cut inside and rip a shot with your stronger foot. You can do what Arshavin used to do.

I don't know Arshavin personally. I don't know what his issues are. It seems like his fitness hasn't been great. It was an issue when he got to Arsenal. He doesn't seem as interested or confident. Wenger kept an immense amount of faith in him, but when Cesc and Nasri say "you could walk into the team," I imagine that they're talking about Arshavin. Arshavin lost his ability to weave through defenders. He can barely control the ball when he's playing with Arsenal. I don't know what happened. It's upsetting. I have an Arshavin kit. I wish that he'd play up to the level he's shown in the past.

And a 4-3-3 requires Podolski play wide left, where he's been crap for country.

I feel like Podolski's struggles at the Euros have overshadowed the fact that he's scored 44 goals in 101 appearances playing exclusively on the left. I'm not completely ready to give up on his ability to play on the left on four games. Don't hold me to that when I curse him the first time he plays there though. ;)

Lastly, the left back spot is a problem no matter who the supporting midfielder is or will be. Gibbs doesn't pay enough attention to defense; he's a LM masquerading as a LB. Y'all should be praying that Mertesacker recovers his form so you can play Vermaelen at LB, with Mertesacker & Koscielny at CB.

The reason I'm against this now is because playing the LB last year led to Vermaelen's injury. He's too important to the club to risk trying to play out there. Arsenal definitely needs cover at both LB/RB. Also, Gibbs is actually a wing being converted into a left back as well. He's slightly better at it than Santos, but Vermaelen definitely covers A LOT for both of them. Could Vermaelen play out there? Yeah. Do I want to risk losing him for an extended period of time. Never.

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 06:00 PM

It has been a week since you first posted about Cazorla, and the Malaga situated has not improved. I am not following what is happening very closely, but I do get the sense that each passing day opens the door for Cazorla's move to Arsenal.

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 09:15 AM

We've been hearing for the last week that it will happen in the next 48 hours, but apparently, this is that next 48 hours for Cazorla. He's supposed to be in for a medical tomorrow and hopefully it will be done and I can sleep again.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 10:38 AM

Cazorla looking more likely, but if there is any truth to the Barca interest in Song I'd be worried. He's a fantastic player.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 12:24 PM

You don't need to tell me to be worried.

I'm not concerned about losing him this Summer, to be honest. I'm worried about losing him next Summer, especially if Arsenal doesn't get him to agree to a new contract. You look at the depth chart and Frimpong is probably 1.5-2 years away (injury/actually becoming good enough to start). Coquelin will get a chance this year but will never be as physical as Song. Wilshere really shouldn't be restricted to that role when he's back to full fitness (again, which I estimate to be a full year away...as far as being able to play 40 games). Song is easily one of the most important and most irreplaceable players on the team right now.

The Cazorla deal is probably going to be announced on Monday. Everything is done it seems. It just needs to be announced. Santi is going with the club to Germany. There's been some discrepancy on reports of the fee. The Brits are reporting in pounds, the Spaniards in euros, and they've both been saying in the 15 million range. If it is in fact in euros, that's just...the steal of the Summer. If it's in pounds, it's still a very good deal.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 12:35 PM

Yeah, the fire sale at Malaga is nuts. Toulalan is also available...wouldn't mind seeing my club go after him.

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Posted 03 August 2012 - 05:10 PM

The Malaga situation is unbelievable. Cazorla is out, Rondon is negotiating his departure, and Pellegrini could be leaving. A bunch of other players, such as Toulalan and Joaquin, have been rumoured to be on the way out. I'm personally hoping that they don't pay their bills and are forced out of Champions League so that Atletico gets the spot. It won't happen but I can dream.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 06:23 AM

Done.

As usual, the fee is "undisclosed," but it is rumored to have been under £15 million. Wenger took full advantage of Malaga's situation and did not pay the club's record fee to get him. It's great business that should improve the club immensely. It remains to be seen how much of an impact that this move will have, but I can safely say that I'm very excited to see him on Arsenal.

EDIT: Metro reporting that it is £12 million up front, with the fee rising to £17 from bonuses. £17 million would represent a record fee (Samir Nasri for £15.6 million was the previous record). As I said before, the Spanish journalists were reporting similar numbers, but in euros, which amounts to a lot less money. Not sure who to trust in this, but I'd say the rating of this buy might be somewhere between solid to bargain of the century.

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Posted 10 August 2012 - 11:35 PM

What's taking so long for rvp to pack his bags ? Is it that hard to remember how Rooney takes his coffee?

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:15 AM

Editor's Note: I started this before ElUno's post.

From everything I've heard since, it appears that Arsenal may have gotten the bargain of the century in Cazorla, spending only £12 million on the player. That's €15 million. He was bought for €21 million only the year before. He took Malaga from 11th place to 4th place. Villareal dropped from 4th into the relegation zone (18th) without him. It's going to be hard for him to improve a third place team, unless the star player is leaving. I've heard nothing but great things about him coming from training though. I feel so good about the club right now.

Of course though, the Van Persie thing is still hanging over us. The Song thing should not be ignored either, as those Barca scum are making the same type of noise they always do, cept for Fabregas, who remains a class act.

At this point, I don't think Van Persie is leaving. Yes, we'll risk him leaving after this year. I just don't see a team making an offer that is worth Arsenal biting. I see that Ferguson is being his usual thick self. I think The Guardian summed up the situation best:

Yet for much of the last seven years, an uneasy truce has existed between the pair. Boo! But now, with Manchester United and Robin van Persie all but having tied the knot, no more. Yay! Ferguson is furious over the lack of movement on Arsenal's part and has blasted the Gunners apparently. "It's difficult to know why they are operating in this way," he roared. "We've been trying our best but there's been no progress. You know we've made a bid but Arsenal have been trying to negotiate with other clubs. They are not giving anything away. I've not got a gut feeling about this one. We have not had any breakthrough."

It's almost as if Van Persie is still Arsenal's player and they can do whatever the hell they want.

Pretty much, fuck off Red Nose. You know what Arsenal want, so pay up or shut up. Him actually speaking out though, I see it more as a "we don't have much more to offer" type statement. Honestly, I don't think they can offer more than they have. Whatever they have. Even with their bullshit IPO that went nowhere. If they could really offer Arsenal what Arsenal wanted, they would have done it. £25 million. In 100s. Crisp and clean. It ain't happening and I don't think RvP would be completely upset about staying now that Arsene has brought in real players.

Let's take a look at the Summers thus far (by table order), shall we?

City: Jack shit
United: Saw Arsenal Killer™ Ji Sung Park leave to QPR, but brought in Shinji Kagawa
Arsenal: Brought in Podolski, Giroud, and Cazorla
Tottenham: Vertonghen and Sigurdsson in and Pienaar, Kranjcar, and Corluka out. They might also see Modric leave, though I admire AVB and Levy (mostly Levy)'s insistence on that price tag, as ridiculous as it may be. Damião or Adebayor would be huge.
Newcastle: Kept Demba Ba despite a ridiculously low £7 million buy out clause.
Chelsea: Loaded up for the future with Marin, Hazard, and Oscar, which ensure they'll be awesome in the future, but this season? They just lost a legendary striker...There's some uncertainty (they could be awesome right away or it might take a little while).

Am I forgetting any clubs? :)

Liverpool has probably improved a fair amount with the addition of Borini (Allen, though a bit of an overpay, is good cover for Lucas and potentially a good second pivot to stabilize the defense...he made a lot of tackles last season).

If Arsenal does keep Van Persie and Steve Bould helps improve the defense (it does need improvement despite the individual talent at least I think we have at CB), I think that we will be a side mentioning for some sort of trinket that you all call silverware. This Song shit is really concerning though. I love Song. I hope he stays, but a potential move to Barca really scares me. The fees thus far have been laughable, so I'm not really worried about losing him this season. There's really no way they'd up the joke fees that have been mentioned to a satisfactory level. I do hope that he is not disrupted because I think he has a lot of to build off of from last season.

His agent is Darren Dein though, who is like the Scott Boras of European Football with regards to frustrating the fuck out of the team I support. What makes it worst is that his father is one of the most influential parts of Arsenal's recent history. Everyone has been clamoring for the elder Dein to come back to the club, yet his son, who is also the agent of Henry and Fabregas, is pretty much the biggest dickhead in world football (non-Joey Barton division). I'm pretty sure that this is mostly a ploy to get Arsenal to offer a better contract, but I hate the bullshit that goes with it. I just think it's cheap to play to the supporters fears of more midfield turnover. Have a little bit of class Darren. Just a little bit.

Anyway, our net spending thus far is £35 million. With the Queensland Road development funds, we should only be £9 million in the red. I don't know if we're finished. The Sahin deal could still happen. We've been linked with Bene's love, Ki (C'mon Bene, there are plenty of K-Pop artists you can crush on). We've been linked with Van der Wiel. But keep in mind, it's Arsenal and because of our scouting, we are linked with more players than anyone else. It weird and funny because I consider Wenger to be one of the most selective managers when it comes to transfers, but here we are linked to tons of players. Tis the life, I suppose.

Köln on Sunday. If you're in Boston, come to Lir.

Edited by sachmoney, 11 August 2012 - 12:20 AM.


#98 sachmoney


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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:15 AM

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#99 ossie schreckengost

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 06:27 PM

you do not even deserve him, you fascist fucks. the poldinger.

you´re, footballwise, such a primitive club, managed by the most primitive of managers, who still thinks he´s dieu´s gift to soccer. that blind blind man, leeching off off good things.

poldi. i did love him even when he was with our hatet rival fcköln.

and don´t you ever dare make fun of him. the podolskinger is one of the few folks footballwise i know who is all about winning, in his way, who is all about winning, aboot his kind of passion. don´t EVER underestimate hte poldi.

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sometimes i forget my point.

this is the weltpoldinger. live&in farbe:


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Posted 15 August 2012 - 01:57 PM

RvP out for £24 million. Song could be next.




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