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[Harry Hooper]

That's a winner.

Or isn't

[bigsloppisrevenge]

I think the pitching has been ok after a bad start. Buchholz is a major concern though, and he probably needs to be DL or sent down to work on whatever his issue is. Daisuke almost ready to come up.

Youk is on the DL and has been for the last week. Becketts been ok. Becketts a 5/10 guy and Youk has little trade value.

The issue is they need to make an example of one of these guys, so these guys top acting like overpaid bums. Beckett can have a 0 era he is still a jerk.

[Harry Hooper]

I hope Remy is OK. He won't be hurrying back at this rate.

[Buzzkill Pauley]

Not Bobby's fault. Easy to single out one guy, always the manager.

It wasn't Tito's fault last year either, but he got shit-canned because he couldn't get the roster to perform for one month.

I don't see a difference.

[AimingForYoko]

The issue is they need to make an example of one of these guys, so these guys top acting like overpaid bums. Beckett can have a 0 era he is still a jerk.

Felger or Mazz?


I'm guessing Felger.

[Green Monster]

For some unknown reason I am sitting here watching the post game re-cap......... I see that Clay is taking after his mentors (Beckett & Lester) complaining about the umps..........that act (by all three) is really getting old.

[Sampo Gida]

Not Bobby's fault. Easy to single out one guy, always the manager. He's not swinging at shitty pitches or carrying the Brinker's safe on his back rounding third or watching the ball instead of running. Or worse, not even getting through 5 innings as a starter. FFS, Clay has an ERA over 9! The guys wearing the uniform on the field should be embarrassed. Thank God for the bullpen lately or it would be even uglier. Not on Bobby, take a long hard look at yourselves 25 man roster.

It's easier to change managers than the whole team. Personally, I have seen enough of Bobby V even if he is not to blame for everything. Sometimes a change can spark a team.

That said, give it another month, I think the team is better than it has looked so far. If it still is struggling by the end of May, Bobby V goes. If that does not work by the end of July, blow it up,

[Papo The Snow Tiger]

He was the problem last year and we never took care of it so it is carrying over. I would love to blame Bobby V, but he is far from the problem.

Terry Francona, who was the Red Sox best manager EVER, got fired because some of the players were screwing around last year. Valentine was brought in to straighten out the mess. The team isn't playing ANY better now. If nothing else, the seat should be getting a little warmer for Booby.

[inoffensiv philosophy]

I don't know what everyone's so mad about -- this is a no-lose situation. Every win is, well, a Sox win. And every disgusting, inexplicable, record-breaking huh???!!! of a loss slightly increases the amount of squalid pleasure I'm getting from seeing how bad and weird this shit can get.

[bigsloppisrevenge]

Felger or Mazz?


I'm guessing Felger.

Yeah, I do not live in Mass, so I do not know these guys. Keep the blinders on, make excuses for these guys, and keep blaming Bobby V. They will eventually get out of the toilet.

[AimingForYoko]

Yeah, I do not live in Mass, so I do not know these guys. Keep the blinders on, make excuses for these guys, and keep blaming Bobby V. They will eventually get out of the toilet.

I have done no such thing. I just don't see how Beckett is to blame for any of this (particularly today).

Clay sucks. The lineup is in shambles. Bobby isn't really helping matters. Salty can't catch. The pitching is a game of musical chairs. The bench is a disaster. Adrian is killing them at entirely the wrong moment. And on. and on.

And no I don't think it's about attitudes or heart or emotion or what the hell ever.


The problem is that these things individually might not be so damn bad but together it's a trainwreck.

Edited by AimingForYoko, 06 May 2012 - 07:43 PM.

[GibbonsIsJay]

I'm not sure which is more inconceivable, Chris Davis' 2 scoreless innings or Kevin Gregg's?

[bosockboy]

Using McDonald while insisting on carrying 13 pitchers feels like the lowest low in quite some time. This organization is in shambles.

[twibnotes]

Using McDonald while insisting on carrying 13 pitchers feels like the lowest low in quite some time. This organization is in shambles.

The absence of MLB ready prospects has taken its toll. Instead of a guy like Kalish platooning a bit and earning a full time role, we're watching DMac, a guy whose upside is known and not so special.

[Mugsys Jock]

You know, at the beginning of the NESN broadcast today (back when I was young and slim), Orsillo and Gammo were tripping all over themselves describing how wonderful it was that Adrian had snapped out of his slump, and all was now right with the world.

[Frank, Fenway]

Yeah, I do not live in Mass, so I do not know these guys. Keep the blinders on, make excuses for these guys, and keep blaming Bobby V. They will eventually get out of the toilet.

You know they're not playing shitty on purpose, right? You can't magically make them figure out what's wrong.

[jtn46]

Oops

Edited by jtn46, 06 May 2012 - 07:47 PM.

[MikeM]

Man, O's fans are trolling us now. New low.

I laughed.

New low indeed.

[weams]

Terry Francona, who was the Red Sox best manager EVER, got fired because some of the players were screwing around last year. Valentine was brought in to straighten out the mess. The team isn't playing ANY better now. If nothing else, the seat should be getting a little warmer for Booby.

Do you think he will be fired? Does he know you call him Booby?

[MakMan44]

I can't believe how bad this team is pissing me off but I'm just apathetic to everything right now

[Papo The Snow Tiger]

Do you think he will be fired? Does he know you call him Booby?

I think he'll eventually get fired, but not this year. I do see it getting very uncomfortable for him though. A lot of people thought it was a terrible idea to hire him in the first place, and he's done nothing to win us over. And no, he doesn't know that I call him Booby.

[judyb]

Pitches thrown by the relievers in the last 3 days:

Aceves: 69 in 2 games
Atchison: 61 in 3 games
Albers: 58 in 2 games
Mortenson: 57 in 1 game
Morales: 50 in 2 games
Padilla: 46 in 2 games
Hill: 37 in 2 games, about 10 days off TJS rehab
Miller: 33 in 2 games, 16 in AAA, and just off the DL

Basically, if it was possible, every single one of them should be given tomorrow off.

[kartvelo]

[InsideTheParker]

So, I was wrong back in the 8th inning. Pinch-running DMac for Ortiz sucked, b/c if they hadn't this game could have ended in the 9th. That probably would have been better for the team going forward, if not for the Sosh joke factory. Thanks for all the yucks, guys.

[scotian1]

It wasn't Tito's fault last year either, but he got shit-canned because he couldn't get the roster to perform for one month.

I don't see a difference.

How many managers can this group go through?

[bigsloppisrevenge]

I have done no such thing. I just don't see how Beckett is to blame for any of this (particularly today).

Clay sucks. The lineup is in shambles. Bobby isn't really helping matters. Salty can't catch. The pitching is a game of musical chairs. The bench is a disaster. Adrian is killing them at entirely the wrong moment. And on. and on.

And no I don't think it's about attitudes or heart or emotion or what the hell ever.


The problem is that these things individually might not be so damn bad but together it's a trainwreck.

It was a train wreck last year and they kept the ring leaders around. Beckett should have ben a leader of that picthcing staff and he was not. One coach already lost his job, so it is not a coach issue it is a player issue. It worked so well for the Mets after their monster collapse to keep the same player around. The sox showed no heart the last month of last season and it seems to have carried over.

[Papo The Snow Tiger]

Pitches thrown by the relievers in the last 3 days:

Aceves: 69 in 2 games
Atchison: 61 in 3 games
Albers: 58 in 2 games
Mortenson: 57 in 1 game
Morales: 50 in 2 games
Padilla: 46 in 2 games
Hill: 37 in 2 games, about 10 days off TJS rehab
Miller: 33 in 2 games, 16 in AAA, and just off the DL

Basically, if it was possible, every single one of them should be given tomorrow off.

It's supposed to be partly cloudy in KC tomorrow. C'mon clouds, you can do it!

[GibbonsIsJay]

The Orioles plan to infiltrate the Red Sox, hatched in 2004 with the release of Darnell McDonald has finally paid off!

[kartvelo]

I have done no such thing. I just don't see how Beckett is to blame for any of this (particularly today).

Clay sucks. The lineup is in shambles. Bobby isn't really helping matters. Salty can't catch. The pitching is a game of musical chairs Russian Roulette. The bench is a disaster. Adrian is killing them at entirely the wrong moment. And on. and on.

[Sprowl]

I'm not sure which is more inconceivable, Chris Davis' 2 scoreless innings or Kevin Gregg's?

Run along, son. Don't bother us.

[AimingForYoko]

It was a train wreck last year and they kept the ring leaders around. Beckett should have ben a leader of that picthcing staff and he was not. One coach already lost his job, so it is not a coach issue it is a player issue. It worked so well for the Mets after their monster collapse to keep the same player around. The sox showed no heart the last month of last season and it seems to have carried over.

And there's that word again.

I always want to ask people, if it's about what the media calls heart, wouldn't Tampa have a couple rings...

And I realize that you and I will never agree on this, so I end this conversation here. Adieu.

[MakMan44]

The Orioles plan to infiltrate the Red Sox, hatched in 2004 with the release of Darnell McDonald has finally paid off!

This made me laugh. Not as much as the game did but it's a start

[CJM]

It was a train wreck last year and they kept the ring leaders around. Beckett should have ben a leader of that picthcing staff and he was not. One coach already lost his job, so it is not a coach issue it is a player issue. It worked so well for the Mets after their monster collapse to keep the same player around. The sox showed no heart the last month of last season and it seems to have carried over.

They signed Nick Punto. My god, man, what more do you want?

[Buzzkill Pauley]

How many managers can this group go through?

All of them.

[judyb]

The O's fan troll is way more entertaining than the Red Sox. Of course, not much isn't.

[Rudy Pemberton]

Saddest thing about today's game is that Punto didn't even play.

[budcrew08]

In a moment of pain, this brings a laugh.

[AB in DC]

All of them.

Just bring back Tito in 2013.

[Harry Hooper]

Just bring back Tito in 2013.

Tito wouldn't consider coming back on anything less than BB's terms.

[judyb]

All of them.

All of the 3 who'd even consider taking the job?

[bosockboy]

Tito isn't the answer. They need to hit on a young manager who can be here 10-12 years....Torey Lovullo types.

[bigsloppisrevenge]

And there's that word again.

I always want to ask people, if it's about what the media calls heart, wouldn't Tampa have a couple rings...

And I realize that you and I will never agree on this, so I end this conversation here. Adieu.

You are right stats alone brings championships not heart and attitude, there is no stat for those things so they do not exist. This is not fantasy baseball.

[Papo The Snow Tiger]

Tito isn't the answer. They need to hit on a young manager who can be here 10-12 years....Torey Lovullo types.

Didn't they interview him?

[fineyoungarm]

In a moment of pain, this brings a laugh.

The big man is the best. It's like Oliver Hardy - he shows up on screen and I start laughing in anticipation of whatever is coming.

[Frank, Fenway]

You are right stats alone brings championships not heart and attitude, there is no stat for those things so they do not exist. This is not fantasy baseball.

Do you also think God has something to do with it?

[bosockboy]

Didn't they interview him?

Yes and should've hired him or Sveum.

[Buzzkill Pauley]

All of the 3 who'd even consider taking the job?

There's a lot more than three good ones who would consider taking this job.

Sveum, Lamont, and Hale would all be doing no worse than BobbyV.

[JohntheBaptist]

So, I was wrong back in the 8th inning. Pinch-running DMac for Ortiz sucked, b/c if they hadn't this game could have ended in the 9th. That probably would have been better for the team going forward, if not for the Sosh joke factory. Thanks for all the yucks, guys.

? Do you really think Ortiz would not have scored on that sac fly?

[fineyoungarm]

Well for whomever is left this is sure to make you feel better. I know it helped me. At the ATL a'port could not get ESPN feed, so trying to follow the game with all of you and NESN. After WMB failed to run on his foul/double/foul/double - this keen baseball analysis was offered on the NESN blog by Big Brother - "It does not matter because Byrd (whatever -ed) out". So there - nothing matters. Nothing at all - including the basics. It is fate, Fate is the hunter.

[fineyoungarm]

They got rained out. We're just riffin'

What's amazing is that I knew exactly what was going on - as if I was there. Sort of idiot - savant baseball commentary.