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[SpruceTrap]

It will be interesting to see how Robertson does this year. He's another guy that outperformed his peripherals by a significant margin last year.

[SpruceTrap]

I think its easier for teams like the Rays and Padres to put together good pens because of the park factors of their home park, or so I told myself as I watched Padilla, Melancon, and Aceves shit their pants yesterday.

Sadly, they shit the pants in Detroit which is also a pitcher's park.

[Wingack]

Let's see how healthy he is here.

[Saby]

TB's bottom half of the line-up is much worse than Boston's. This game was over at the end of the 7th inning.

[rembrat]

Sadly, they shit the pants in Detroit which is also a pitcher's park.

Sigh.

[derekson]

Robertson's missed time this spring seems to be showing. He's a bit off.

[Foulkey Reese]

Bizarre strike zone.

[derekson]

First career AB against David Robertson in a 6-5 game. Yikes.

[SpruceTrap]

Six through nine in the Sox lineup yesterday (Sweeney, Ross, Salty, Aviles). It isn't very scary at all. But neither is Tampa's.

Once Crawford returns I would prefer it to a bottom four of Swisher (.822 OPS), Ibanez (.707 OPS), Gardner (.732 OPS) and Gardner (.713 OPS).

[Wingack]

The Montgomery Biscuits?

[Saby]

Not too bad, 2 automatic outs coming up after Pena. Hopefully one of them is a DP.

Maddon is an idiot. Why take away the power option from your best power hitter?

PS: West may be the worst umprie in the big leauges.

[rembrat]

And now Robertson strikes out the side. Book it.

[AMS25]

Bizarre strike zone.

Agreed. Gameday has Pitch #4 to Pena right over the plate and not particularly low.

[Foulkey Reese]

oops nevermind

Edited by Foulkey Reese, 06 April 2012 - 05:23 PM.

[Saby]

Once Crawford returns I would prefer it to a bottom four of Swisher (.822 OPS), Ibanez (.707 OPS), Gardner (.732 OPS) and Gardner (.713 OPS).

It's better against righties. Gardner only bats once.

[SpruceTrap]

I'd say that missed strike call almost makes up for the Zobrist at bat.

[Saby]

Maddon really threw Vogt to the wolves there, asking too much of the guy there.

[SpruceTrap]

It's better against righties. Gardner only bats once.

So is the Red Sox lineup. My bad, #8 is supposed to be Martin.

[derekson]

The Montgomery Biscuits?

[nvalvo]

Six through nine in the Sox lineup yesterday (Sweeney, Ross, Salty, Aviles). It isn't very scary at all. But neither is Tampa's.

About that: by May, Sweeney and Ross will be two halves of a platoon that projects to be about two wins better than the Red Sox' 2011 RF situation. Even if Crawford doesn't improve (doubtful) and Ellsbury regresses a bit, they should be better in the OF than the lineup that led the majors in runs scored.

I think most people consider Aviles promising offensively — ZIPS likes Aviles a touch better than Jeter, for example. He may turn out to be a liability as a defensive shortstop, however.

Saltalamacchia is a cypher. I have no idea what to expect.

[Wingack]

Once Crawford returns I would prefer it to a bottom four of Swisher (.822 OPS), Ibanez (.707 OPS), Gardner (.732 OPS) and Gardner (.713 OPS).

OK, you can have them.

[SpruceTrap]

Saltalamacchia is a cypher. I have no idea what to expect.

Yeah, I'd say Martin and Salty are a wash offensively even though Salty had the better OPS last year. But the Yankees traded away their offensively minded catching prospect and the Red Sox still have theirs. Lavarnway will probably make an impact at some point this year.

[nvalvo]

While I'm hanging out with the Yankee's subforum crowd, how do you guys project Tex and A-Rod for this year?

[Saby]

If Molina doesn't swing, TB might have scored there.

[Foulkey Reese]

The Rays are fucking stupid.

[derekson]

Rays have twice had the tying run at third with 0 outs and haven't scored it yet.

[SpruceTrap]

Seems like Maddon's overmanaging. That's the second move that backfired.

[Wingack]

The Rays are fucking stupid.

Thought you might have enjoyed that.

[ngruz25]

What a bunch of clowns. Bunting with two strikes? After sending the runner the pitch before? Why? What does that accomplish?

[SpruceTrap]

Houdini acts only last so long. Just ask Houdini.

*punch to the gut*

[Saby]

In defense of Maddon, Johnson and Molina are pretty much automatic outs, no matter what.

Still probably should have had the bunt play earlier in the count though.

[Wingack]

"Houdini indeed!!!"

[rembrat]

David Robertson is the fucking man. I love everything about him.

[Meff Nelton]

D-Rizzle-Rob!

[derekson]

Wow. 95 MPH at the knees on the outside corner to get the K against Joyce. And the Rays do not in fact score their second shot with the tying run on third and 0 out. They do however get Longoria to the plate once more.

[SpruceTrap]

David Robertson is the fucking man. I love everything about him.

The only things I like about him are his walk rates and his ERA-FIP. That pitch was nasty though.

Edited by SpruceTrap, 06 April 2012 - 05:34 PM.

[jon abbey]

Piniella and Kay were hilarious that inning, it took them two batters to figure out why Luke Scott wasn't pinch hitting (because, um, he hit the inning before). I'm surprised the producer let them go as long as they did, Piniella is a disaster.

[jon abbey]

Tired bullpens tomorrow, the managers will be hoping Price and Kuroda can go deep.

[derekson]

Nice range by SRod.

[SpruceTrap]

This will be the year Mo loses it!

/joke

[ivanvamp]

Why wins are a dumb and useless stat:

Jon Lester yesterday: 7.0 ip, 6 h, 1 r, 1 er, 3 bb, 4 k, in line for the loss before a Sox 9th inning rally
CC Sabathia today: 6.0 ip, 8 h, 5 r, 5 er, 3 bb, 7 k, probably gets the win

EDIT: And Valverde yesterday: 1.0 ip, 3 h, 2 r, 2 er, 0 bb, 1 k, blows a save but gets the win when the Tigers score one in the 9th

Edited by ivanvamp, 06 April 2012 - 05:38 PM.

[derekson]

Piniella and Kay were hilarious that inning, it took them two batters to figure out why Luke Scott wasn't pinch hitting (because, um, he hit the inning before). I'm surprised the producer let them go as long as they did, Piniella is a disaster.

What in the world made YES think: A. they needed to add to their already ridiculously large roster of announcers and B. that a senile guy would be the best addition?

[jon abbey]

Why wins are a dumb and useless stat:

Jon Lester yesterday: 7.0 ip, 6 h, 1 r, 1 er, 3 bb, 4 k, in line for the loss before a Sox 9th inning rally
CC Sabathia today: 6.0 ip, 8 h, 5 r, 5 er, 3 bb, 7 k, probably gets the win

You could have just used Verlander and Valverde.

[derekson]

It's a credit to Maddon's bullpen management in this game that Girardi didn't get a chance to use Andruw Jones to mash a lefty.

[Meff Nelton]

The only things I like about him are his walk rates and his ERA-FIP. That pitch was nasty though.

You are aware that his FIP was 1.86 last year, right? Why are you acting like this is some kind of weakness?

[SpruceTrap]

Michael Kay naturally suggests how it's not unreasonable to expect Mo to pitch through age 46.

[derekson]

Suddenly the strike zone has disappeared again.

[ngruz25]

Home plate ump is having a right day.

[soxhop411]

Why does cowboy west still have a job?

[jon abbey]

It's a credit to Maddon's bullpen management in this game that Girardi didn't get a chance to use Andruw Jones to mash a lefty.

He could have hit him for Gardner against McGee earlier but he stuck with the better defender.