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#51 bostonbeerbelly

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 01:19 PM

I have a question - Mid teen's handicap play usually anywhere from a 13-16...usually just shoot somewhere in the 80's.

My question pertains to my driver...I bought one of those new fancy big drivers 2 years ago and couldn't hit the thing for shit. So I took my fathers FT-I 10.5 degree squarehead driver and felt super comfortable with it. I find the fairway and hit it consistently 260ish. Now the question...how much length am I giving up by not going to a 9degree driver like some of my friends carry. I have great low iron play (7-Gap) and my putting is also fairly strong. Should I try learning to hit a lower degree driver this year and how much extra distance could I expect?

Thanks in advance.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 01:32 PM

"FOUND MY FIRST ONE" is the most skepticle statement in golf.


This is why I thought the rule was you had to declare your provisional before hitting it.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 01:49 PM

I have a question - Mid teen's handicap play usually anywhere from a 13-16...usually just shoot somewhere in the 80's.

My question pertains to my driver...I bought one of those new fancy big drivers 2 years ago and couldn't hit the thing for shit. So I took my fathers FT-I 10.5 degree squarehead driver and felt super comfortable with it. I find the fairway and hit it consistently 260ish. Now the question...how much length am I giving up by not going to a 9degree driver like some of my friends carry. I have great low iron play (7-Gap) and my putting is also fairly strong. Should I try learning to hit a lower degree driver this year and how much extra distance could I expect?

Thanks in advance.

I would say absolutely not. Most players are using drivers with not enough loft as it is. There are a few studies out there that suggest that we need to play more loft for distance and not less loft - the old days of thinking to hit it low and let it roll are over. A lot of the Taylormade guys on tour are now playing lofts above a 9.5 to get the ball in the air higher and get more carry and they're hitting it further than ever.

EDIT: especially for someone that is above a 10 handicap, the lower loft will just cause more side-spin and give you more trouble than it's worth, even if you did gain extra distance.

EDIT2: just to prove my point (I know it's a couple years old), but Dustin Johnson murderst the ball and he's playing a 10.5 degree driver.

http://www.golfdiges...johnson_golfbag

EDIT3: A more recent bag shot for DJ

http://blogs.golf.co...ampionship.html

Edited by FL4WL3SS, 20 March 2012 - 01:55 PM.


#54 PaulinMyrBch


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Posted 20 March 2012 - 03:27 PM

Exactly what FL4WL3SS said. You would likely give up distance by going to less loft. You are probably using too little loft actually.

I would suggest you look on the web for manufacturers demo days in your area. They set them up throughout the season and you can go test the clubs without obligation. You can play with the loft that way and maximize what you need.

The two main components to maximize driver distance are shaft flex and loft. Most people that haven't been fitted for clubs are usually playing with wrong levels of both.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 05:37 PM

Can anyone recommend some solid instruction books? I shoot bogey golf and my game is entirely about feel. I played on my high school team years ago, but the coaching was mediocre at best. When I play frequently I find things that work and stick with it. Sometimes I'll see a tip in a golf magazine when I'm in a waiting room and try it out. However, with many things in life, I'd like to learn how to play certain shots correctly. I also don't mind rebuilding my swing and feel if it'll help long term. I'd like to increase my understanding of the golf swing, ball flight, specific shot approaches, etc., so that I understand why I hit a good shot or what probably went wrong on a bad shot.

What would be good reference material to start with?


Late to the game but this is what I'd suggest: lessons.

This doesn't mean you don't understand your swing or are having a specific swing issue. An instructor is going to check you swing out regardless and could possibly make some minor tweaks, but the first conversation you should have with them is what you want to get out of the lessons. Tell them you want to work on specific types of shots. When they believe you're ready to work on them, you will.

You can read about how to make shots and try it out yourself, but an instructor can tell you if you're actually doing things correctly.

I'd suggest you get fitted with a new set now. That way you will know when you hit a bad shot, that it is you and not the clubs. As far as the instructor, find a guy that you are comfortable with and who fits in with your learning style.


Just to add to this, don't blow the bank on the clubs. I'd look for demo days at local driving ranges/courses and go try out a bunch of clubs before you buy to find something that you feels good (although you might want to have someone make sure you're grip is correct when you do this).

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 06:32 PM

I have a question - Mid teen's handicap play usually anywhere from a 13-16...usually just shoot somewhere in the 80's.

My question pertains to my driver...I bought one of those new fancy big drivers 2 years ago and couldn't hit the thing for shit. So I took my fathers FT-I 10.5 degree squarehead driver and felt super comfortable with it. I find the fairway and hit it consistently 260ish. Now the question...how much length am I giving up by not going to a 9degree driver like some of my friends carry. I have great low iron play (7-Gap) and my putting is also fairly strong. Should I try learning to hit a lower degree driver this year and how much extra distance could I expect?

Thanks in advance.


FWIW, when I was fitted at TMP labs five years ago they gave me an R7 425 TP, stiff shaft and a 10.5 loft. Later, I got a Burner TP driver, also with a stiff shaft and 10.5 loft but it didn't perform as well. I found that I would hit the ball too high and not get much of a roll. So, on the advise of my Pro, I got a Burner Superfast TP with a 9.5 loft and now the trajectory is more like the old 425 (but with more distance). The moral of this story is that distance off the tee depends on more than just the loft of the club. If you really want to determine the best driver for you then you need to go to a fitter.

#57 jercra

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 07:21 PM

I have a question - Mid teen's handicap play usually anywhere from a 13-16...usually just shoot somewhere in the 80's.

My question pertains to my driver...I bought one of those new fancy big drivers 2 years ago and couldn't hit the thing for shit. So I took my fathers FT-I 10.5 degree squarehead driver and felt super comfortable with it. I find the fairway and hit it consistently 260ish. Now the question...how much length am I giving up by not going to a 9degree driver like some of my friends carry. I have great low iron play (7-Gap) and my putting is also fairly strong. Should I try learning to hit a lower degree driver this year and how much extra distance could I expect?

Thanks in advance.

The reality is that loft of the club can't be considered alone. It's all about 2 factors, launch angle and spin. I play an 8.5* 910 D3 with an x-stiff shaft because I have a high swing speed and a low attack angle so I put lots of spin on ball. To counteract that I have a low lofted club with a very stiff and very heavy shaft on a low spinning club head. I hate to beat a dead horse but the only way you'll know is to get fit on a trackman/launch monitor until you find the setup for your optimal launch angle and spin.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 09:08 AM

In my opinion, getting fitted is beneficial two ways:

1. You'll be in the right club, loft, lie, flex, etc and you'll know it. The play and confidence will improve.
2. You won't be shopping for new clubs every few years. You'll be happy to stay in what works.

I was fitted 12 or so years ago, and granted I don't play as much as I used to, but I don't have any reason to buy any clubs. I do itch for the new drivers, so I can imagine adding one of those if I start to play more. But I'm still happy with what I have to this day, new technology aside.

#59 jercra

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 06:14 PM

Just got back from my fitting session. The fitting was free but the results were expensive:

RBZ 3-Wood, Ahaina X-flex 85 gram, 1/2 inch over, bent down 2*=$250
r11 Rescue TP, Matrix Altus X-flex 105 gram, 1/2 inch over, 21* opened to 19* lower lie angle=$170
3x TP Wedges (50*, 56*, 60*), c-Taper X-flex,1/2 inch over, bent down 4*=$100 each
7x install of c-Taper X-flex shaft in my existing irons, pulling my grips and re-installing them with 4 wraps, bending each iron down 2*=$5 each

I'm very much looking forward to having the whole setup in my hands next week.

#60 leithbones

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Posted 22 March 2012 - 06:38 PM

During a recent round one of our foursome had to hit a provisional ball. He declared it was provisional but did not declare what type of ball the first one was or the provisional was. One of the other guys said that he had to declare what number and type of ball he was hitting. I think he's wrong. Who's right?

As Fl4WL3SS stated, you have no obligation under the Rules Of Golf to state your ball ID-- YOU ARE CORRECT.
However, you do it NOT out of courtesy, but to insure ironclad differentiation between ball #1 and #2 should any doubt/questions arise.

http://www.usga.org/...f-Golf/Rule-27/ Rule 27.2 Provisional Ball

If a ball may be lost outside a water hazard or may be out of bounds, to save time the player may play another ball provisionally in accordance with Rule 27-1. The player must inform his opponent in match play or his marker or a fellow-competitor in stroke play that he intends to play a provisional ball, and he must play it before he or his partner goes forward to search for the original ball.

That's it for procedure.

#61 Papelbon's Poutine


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Posted 25 March 2012 - 07:53 PM

In my opinion, getting fitted is beneficial two ways:

1. You'll be in the right club, loft, lie, flex, etc and you'll know it. The play and confidence will improve.
2. You won't be shopping for new clubs every few years. You'll be happy to stay in what works.


Fitting is definitely essential, but make sure you either go to someone that is recommended by a trusted acquaintance or a professional FITTER, not just a golf pro. I got fitted first in college, about 14 years ago - all my readings were standard and i was fitted with stiff shafts on my first adult set of clubs (Titleist 822OS). I was playing a lot back then and really into it, so even though I had no intentions of buying new clubs, I got fitted once every year or two years just to monitor my swing and see if any changes were needed. Nothing changed.

In 2007, I decided to get into some new digs and was fitted again for a set of Titleist 775.CBs by the pro at a friend's club. After a 90 minute fitting session, I came away with startling new readings - 1 degree flat, .5 inch long and a heavier shaft. These readings made no sense to me, but I trusted the pro and ordered my clubs. The following two seasons were the two worst I've ever had. In 09, I scrapped the set and bought TM Burners with stock specs and my old shafts and my game is back where it should be. (On a side note, my friend got fitted by the same pro a yer or two later - despite my warnings - and kept his new clubs for one full season before ditching them; his results were even worse than mine.)

While fitting is 90% science, there is still some art in there; and even the science, if the fitter hasn't been properly trained he can make mistakes. For those considering it, find a demo day somewhere nearby you - go to the website of the clubs you're interested in and there should be a tour schedule. If you choose to go through the pro at a local club or at a golf shop, ask around before you do it - don't assume they will know what they are doing nearly as well as the pros from the companies themselves. Also, any fitting fees will (or should be) applied to the purchase price of the clubs, so don't let that sway you.

Also, anyone getting into the game and looking for entry level clubs, I would recommend GlobalGolf.com. I bought my Burners there for about half retail price and was able to get a display set that had never been hit at a significant discount.

(Paul not so much to you there, but to anyone considering fitting...)

Edited by Papelbon's Poutine, 25 March 2012 - 07:55 PM.


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Posted 25 March 2012 - 08:13 PM

I would also like to state for the record how geeked out I am that companies are bringing back the yellow and orange balls. Brings me back to my youth when I used to rock the two color Ping Eye 2s.

Speaking of balls, anyone who plays a ProV or ProVx, right now you can get customized balls for $47.99 a dozen, plus one dozen free if you buy 3. Pretty much any retailer offers it.

Edited by Papelbon's Poutine, 25 March 2012 - 08:25 PM.


#63 jercra

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Posted 25 March 2012 - 11:24 PM

Pretty good golf weekend for me. 18 Friday, 36 Saturday and 36 Sunday. Not too bad for a March weekend in the NW. Anyone else able to take advantage of the generally great weather all over this weekend and pull off a lot of golf?

Edited by jercra, 25 March 2012 - 11:26 PM.


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 06:26 AM

18 Saturday and 18 Sunday for me - it was pretty soggy out here in Ohio though.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:50 AM

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#66 FL4WL3SS


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:01 AM

Wrong thread soxhop

Edited by FL4WL3SS, 26 March 2012 - 11:01 AM.


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Posted 26 March 2012 - 09:59 PM

Caved and had a spending binge today.

New additions to the bag:

Titleist 910 D2, 10.5*, Aldila R.I.P. 60 shaft
Taylormade RBZ 3W
Taylormade RBZ 3H

Greatly aided by current program at Dick's on the TM components - any club trade in get an extra 50% on top if you're buying a TM club right now. Old driver, two fairway woods and a hybrid netter me $170 of the top of that little binge - so basically the hybrid was free.

I'm pissed it's going to be cold up here this week.

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:14 PM

Caved and had a spending binge today.

New additions to the bag:

Titleist 910 D2, 10.5*, Aldila R.I.P. 60 shaft
Taylormade RBZ 3W
Taylormade RBZ 3H

Greatly aided by current program at Dick's on the TM components - any club trade in get an extra 50% on top if you're buying a TM club right now. Old driver, two fairway woods and a hybrid netter me $170 of the top of that little binge - so basically the hybrid was free.

I'm pissed it's going to be cold up here this week.

Damn, that's a smoking good deal. You won't be disappointed with that driver I suspect. My 910 is the best feeling driver I've ever had. Sound's like you've been fitted for clubs before. Do you know your club head speed or ball speed with the driver? Did you get the RBZ tour that just came out this week or the RBZ?

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Posted 26 March 2012 - 11:15 PM

I was in Las Vegas last week and went nuts with the golf. Played my annual treat at Bali Hai, then went to my spot at Desert Pines. Both are pretty expensive, (I would say Bali Hai is overpriced at $199.00)

I went back to Desert Pines on Monday for their weekday rate and someone bought the place out for the afternoon. So I ended up at Las Vegas National, an old school course. (Site of the plane landing scene in Casino, and home of some early PGA tournaments) Wow.. I loved it. Especially at $59.00. I ended up playing there two days in a row.

I am playing pretty well for me ( mid to high 80's) . I am hitting my irons pure and hitting my 7 iron 155-160. For some reason, maybe old age, I just can't hit my driver for distance.

I swear I can hit my 5 wood or hybrid as far as my driver more often than not. It's a Taylormade Burner 2 with an "M" shaft ( supposedly for senior golfers...I'm 58) I have tried a bunch of drivers over the last five years and this one seems to be the best overall.

It seems my distance with irons does not match my distance with the driver. I just cannot hit it more than 200 yards in the air. I'm hitting it pretty straight with a natural draw, but the distance gap on my drives is just killing me on real golf courses. Any ideas on my driving woes?

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 06:47 AM

I swear I can hit my 5 wood or hybrid as far as my driver more often than not. It's a Taylormade Burner 2 with an "M" shaft ( supposedly for senior golfers...I'm 58) I have tried a bunch of drivers over the last five years and this one seems to be the best overall.

It seems my distance with irons does not match my distance with the driver. I just cannot hit it more than 200 yards in the air. I'm hitting it pretty straight with a natural draw, but the distance gap on my drives is just killing me on real golf courses. Any ideas on my driving woes?

This kind of goes hand in hand with the driver loft discussion we were having earlier in the thread. I hear a lot of older guys (or guys with slower swing speeds) talk about how they can hit their 3-wood or 5-wood as far as their driver. My thought is that you're not getting enough trajectory on your driver and it's not carrying as far as your fairway woods. I'd suggest to go to a demo day and try an 11 or 12 degree driver and I'd bet you'd be pleasantly surprised at how much further you're hitting it*.

*I'm making an assumption that you're not already playing a driver above a 9.5 or 10 degrees.

Edited by FL4WL3SS, 27 March 2012 - 06:48 AM.


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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:54 AM

This kind of goes hand in hand with the driver loft discussion we were having earlier in the thread. I hear a lot of older guys (or guys with slower swing speeds) talk about how they can hit their 3-wood or 5-wood as far as their driver. My thought is that you're not getting enough trajectory on your driver and it's not carrying as far as your fairway woods. I'd suggest to go to a demo day and try an 11 or 12 degree driver and I'd bet you'd be pleasantly surprised at how much further you're hitting it*.

*I'm making an assumption that you're not already playing a driver above a 9.5 or 10 degrees.


I'm using a 10.5. I like your suggestion and will give it a shot. I never considered a higher loft. Thanks

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 11:56 AM

10.5 is actually not bad - an 11 degree might make a difference, but I can't be certain. Are the shaft flexes different in your driver and fairway woods? If you're looking for distance, play a shaft as soft as possible without spraying the ball all over the place.

#73 jercra

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 07:37 PM

I'm using a 10.5. I like your suggestion and will give it a shot. I never considered a higher loft. Thanks

Do you have any idea what your club head speed is with a driver? You can usually find out at any launch monitor like they have in the simulators at Golf Galaxy, Dicks, Golfsmith, etc; and of course at any decent club fitting facilities. It would be a lot easier to make suggestions if you knew some of your swing stats.

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Posted 28 March 2012 - 02:49 AM

Do you have any idea what your club head speed is with a driver? You can usually find out at any launch monitor like they have in the simulators at Golf Galaxy, Dicks, Golfsmith, etc; and of course at any decent club fitting facilities. It would be a lot easier to make suggestions if you knew some of your swing stats.


I don't really know my swing speed for sure. I did get fitted for the "M" Shaft, so I assume it was slow. I should have asked. I am going to go back to Golfsmith out here in So. Cal where I bought my 3 wood and driver ( both M shafts) and present my problem to them and see what my speed is with both clubs.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:35 PM

I live in western PA and I have gotten out three times now to play. My g/f and I moved into a townhouse right next to a nice public course so this summer I should get out quite a bit. I've never been really serious about the game, but now that I have more time and opportunity to play I think I will. My drives have been slicing pretty badly and I've been working on correcting that. Very pleased with my medium and short game.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 12:59 PM

So I took my new driver to get regripped with a Lamkin that matches the rest of my set and the shop guy recommended that I dial in setting first so that the alignment on the grip is correct. This seems counter intuitive to me - if I change the face angle and then regrip won't I be back at original settings? I feel like I should be relying on the grip alignment to ensure the changes I have made are in effect?

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:34 PM

So I took my new driver to get regripped with a Lamkin that matches the rest of my set and the shop guy recommended that I dial in setting first so that the alignment on the grip is correct. This seems counter intuitive to me - if I change the face angle and then regrip won't I be back at original settings? I feel like I should be relying on the grip alignment to ensure the changes I have made are in effect?

When you change the configuration of the driver head you still want it to take it's natural lie on the ground. If it was just about closing the face then you could get and adjustable club head just by getting a grip with no logo. In other words, adjustable clubs don't just change the face angle, they change the loft and lie as well. As far as the grip goes, if you're using the alignment of the logo then you're doing yourself a disservice anyway since the alignment of grips to shafts is totally done by eye. There's no precision involved at all.

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Posted 29 March 2012 - 08:35 PM

I live in western PA and I have gotten out three times now to play. My g/f and I moved into a townhouse right next to a nice public course so this summer I should get out quite a bit. I've never been really serious about the game, but now that I have more time and opportunity to play I think I will. My drives have been slicing pretty badly and I've been working on correcting that. Very pleased with my medium and short game.

Do you slice with all of your clubs or just with the driver?

#79 grsharky7

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 07:07 AM

Do you slice with all of your clubs or just with the driver?


Pretty much my driver and sometimes 3 wood. I hit my irons fairly straight most of the time. I have been working on my grip, my boss made some adjustments for me. Do you thing I am over swinging on my drives or having my front shoulder fly open could be the reason?

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 11:16 AM

Pretty much my driver and sometimes 3 wood. I hit my irons fairly straight most of the time. I have been working on my grip, my boss made some adjustments for me. Do you thing I am over swinging on my drives or having my front shoulder fly open could be the reason?

Slices are caused by hitting the ball with the club face open and/or the swing coming from the outside in and cutting across the ball. A simple thing to try on the range is to pick a spot 6 inches in front of the ball and 2 inches right of the ball and try to make your clubhead travel over that spot. If you can do that then you can eliminate the outside in swing.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 12:18 PM

Or, as my instructor had me do, line up to the ball with it two inches forward and an inch or so out from where you would normally line up. This will help get you to a better swing path (if that is causing the issue).

#82 grsharky7

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 01:13 PM

Sounds good. I'll probably hit the range before we go out to dinner, so I'll give it a try and see how it goes.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 01:07 AM

Finally got hit all of my new gear today. Played 36 (73/72) but it's so wet here that it's hard to really tell much of anything except believe the hype about the RBZ 3-wood. It's pretty much as advertised, very long with lots of control. I can't wait to hit that thing when the courses dry out in July.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 10:32 AM

Played my first round of the year yesterday (only got 13 holes in due to weather) and was up and down, as expected. Made good contact with my new irons (Taylor Made x20 Tours) but was a little erratic with my aim. Driver was surprisingly off, usually that's my best club. Short game was atrocious except for my putting which was actually pretty incredible. For the first time out though, I'll gladly take it.

Regardless, the biggest mistake I made was hitting my uncle's Taylor Made R11 driver. I'm still using his hand me down R5 from like 3-4 years ago, and while I hit it well, I'm now in love with the R11 after hitting it a few times. I plan on picking up last year's model to save some cash on it, but figured that it'd be best to get fitted for it so that I can maximize the purchase. Anyone have any recommendations for club fitters in the Boston/Central MA area? Ideally I could also get the driver there too and have it all rolled into one cost.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 11:09 AM

Finally got hit all of my new gear today. Played 36 (73/72) but it's so wet here that it's hard to really tell much of anything except believe the hype about the RBZ 3-wood. It's pretty much as advertised, very long with lots of control. I can't wait to hit that thing when the courses dry out in July.

I can launch the shit out of it off the tee, but I can't do a damned thing on the fairway. I like to play really low punch hooks with my 2 and hybrid off the tee if I'm not hitting my driver, so even though the clubface is super hot, the club just doesn't play for me.

Played Sunday, shot 74, and my driver was non existent. I just gave up on it to save my round and had a solid back nine. The only thing that can consistently make me bogey is my driver. I'll have to put some more time into it.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 11:13 AM

Do you have any idea what your club head speed is with a driver? You can usually find out at any launch monitor like they have in the simulators at Golf Galaxy, Dicks, Golfsmith, etc; and of course at any decent club fitting facilities. It would be a lot easier to make suggestions if you knew some of your swing stats.


I went to Golfsmith yesterday and started asking questions about swing speed and loft and drivers in general. Naturally, I walked out with a new driver. It's a Calloway Razr fit.
My fitting ended up with a 11.5 loft and the "senior" or "A" Shaft.

My swing speed is 78 MPH average. He set the clubface in the open position because I have a tendency to hook the ball.

He suggested I try to open the clubface and swing as if I was trying to hit a fade. I smacked about a dozen 240 yards on the simulator and I was sold. I ran down to the range and hit the ball significantly farther when I made good contact. Damn, I love the sound ( or lack of sound) that club makes when you nail it.

I'll be out there all week whacking the range balls before my regular Saturday round.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 12:17 PM

240 yard drive with 78MPH swing speed is phenomenal. Congrats.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 12:26 PM

Woot has the Nike VR Pro driver for $129 today. Best price I've seen for it by almost a hundred bucks.

http://sellout.woot.com/sale/25364

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 12:56 PM

Wow, 240 yards with a 75 mph swing -- that is an eye-opener. My driver swing speed is probably 90, and I am getting 210 on my best drives, more like 200 on average. Time for reflection . . .

I did go to a shop over the weekend to check into the possiblity of new shafts for my (original) Big Bertha irons. The results were inconclusive. I have learned afterwards that my current shafts are so-called uniflex (Memphis 10s), which are between regular and stiff. The guy had me hit a variety of 7 irons. None were better than my current set by any appreciable degree. However I did not try out a senior flex. My swing speed on the 7 iron was 79 mph, and my 7 iron was hitting the ball about 130 yards. If I could pick up 10 yards without sacrificing accuracy I would gladly replace shafts, clubs, anything.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 04:56 PM

Got out yesterday and played 9 at my course. Hit the first green in regulation and then proceeded to 3 putt from 20 feet. Haha. Then played pretty well and smashed a drive on 17 (8th hole played) and left myself 100 or so in. I then skulled my wedge over the green and made 6. Haha #2.

Overall though I was very encouraged. Finished last year well and made the commitment to work with my pro this year. Here's hopIng.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:18 PM

240 yard drive with 78MPH swing speed is phenomenal. Congrats.


I may not have been clear....I hit a dozen 240 out of probably 50 or 60 hit, but it was enough to sell me, as I had never hit a drive that far. .

When I went to the range today, I was hitting it significantly further than I was before, and when I hit it "sweet" it was rolling to 230 to 240. I was probably averaging 220, which is further than I was hitting my drives last week.

As always, we will see what happens under fire, but I think I definitely have a better club for my swing than I did last week.

Edited by patinorange, 02 April 2012 - 06:23 PM.


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Posted 02 April 2012 - 06:54 PM

Played 18 today (5th round in last week and a half) and couldn't be more frustrated. I've made 3 trips to the range and hit nothing but wedges, chips, pitches and bunnker shots to try to knock the rust off my shirt game and while it is slowly getting a bit better, my touch is completely absent right now. On top of that my irons shit the bed today whereas the previous 3 rounds I was in midseason form for the most part. The 93 I posted today was an ugly, ugly vision and without five 1 putts, could have been a whole lot worse.

Still haven't gotten my new 910 driver in yet, but I will second the comments about the RBZ 3 wood - the thing bombs. I've yet to try it off the turf, but from the tee I am consistently banging it 240-255, or about as far as I was hitting my old DRIVER. The hybrid has been a mixed bag - ok off the tee but having trouble with such a large head hitting off the deck with a iron swing. Mental block right now that is driving me crazy.

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Posted 02 April 2012 - 08:16 PM

70 this late afternoon [par 71]. I spent 15 minutes on the range videoing my swing and figured my driver problem immediately after watchin the video. Slight slide to the right and it completely threw me off.

If y'all have never used video on the range I really really recomend it. Even if you hit it well, as I was with my irons, I could still see the slight slide in the video, even though the result was good. Made a slight weight shift adjustment and hit it great. My putter was not a fan of me today.

Missed 2 fairways, one was just off in the first cut and the second was a bad pull that cost me a shot. Amazing what confidence will do.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 12:28 AM

70 this late afternoon [par 71]. I spent 15 minutes on the range videoing my swing and figured my driver problem immediately after watchin the video. Slight slide to the right and it completely threw me off.

If y'all have never used video on the range I really really recomend it. Even if you hit it well, as I was with my irons, I could still see the slight slide in the video, even though the result was good. Made a slight weight shift adjustment and hit it great. My putter was not a fan of me today.

Missed 2 fairways, one was just off in the first cut and the second was a bad pull that cost me a shot. Amazing what confidence will do.

Nice round. How are you videotaping yourself? Do you have a tripod or just have a friend hold your phone? I recently taped a high handicapper I am teaching and it immediately revealed that he was badly casting so I'd really like to get my own swing in slo-mo too to see where I can make improvements.

Also, has anyone used the new golf channel swing fix tool? You send in video of your swing and they send back analysis from a PGA Pro with lines and such drawn on your video. At $90 for 4 sessions it's not exactly cheap but it's a lot cheaper than the $400 I was quoted at Golfsmith for video analysis. I'm also looking into products I can buy myself and use at home and it looks like there are some available for around $100-$200. Has anyone ever tried one?

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 07:36 AM

If you have a smartphone, you can get the V1 app and be able to video and draw lines and such yourself.

http://www.v1golfapp.com/

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:00 AM

If you have a smartphone, you can get the V1 app and be able to video and draw lines and such yourself.

http://www.v1golfapp.com/

Wow, that is exactly what I was after. Thanks.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:22 PM

Played my first round of the year yesterday (only got 13 holes in due to weather) and was up and down, as expected. Made good contact with my new irons (Taylor Made x20 Tours) but was a little erratic with my aim. Driver was surprisingly off, usually that's my best club. Short game was atrocious except for my putting which was actually pretty incredible. For the first time out though, I'll gladly take it.

Regardless, the biggest mistake I made was hitting my uncle's Taylor Made R11 driver. I'm still using his hand me down R5 from like 3-4 years ago, and while I hit it well, I'm now in love with the R11 after hitting it a few times. I plan on picking up last year's model to save some cash on it, but figured that it'd be best to get fitted for it so that I can maximize the purchase. Anyone have any recommendations for club fitters in the Boston/Central MA area? Ideally I could also get the driver there too and have it all rolled into one cost.

Went to Golf Town in Natick to use the bays to try out some drivers. Hit a bunch and actually had the GM there analyzing my stats and results and making some suggestions. I have a really low launch angle no matter what face angle I used. I would be from 2-6 degrees whether I hit an 8 degree or a 10.5 degree. I hit the R11, the Rocketballz, the RocketBallz Tour, and a Ping driver all with various configurations. The biggest thing was my backspin, it was up around 5500-6000 RPMs which is just silly with such a low launch angle. Ended up getting the RocketBallz Tour which has a deeper face and drastically reduced the RPMs into the 2800-3200 range while also keeping the launch angle around 6 degrees. I have the 9 degree face right now, but I can adjust it up to 10.5 if need be to help get my launch angle up (I think that's what I'll do). At the end I was striping it and carrying 260, which I'm more than happy about. Feels great when I swing it and will hopefully improve my accuracy and distance (which is the goal).

Not to mention it's sexy as hell.

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Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:34 PM

Not to mention it's sexy as hell.

Takes after it's owner.

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Posted 04 April 2012 - 09:37 PM

Anyone else playing in a Masters tournament tomorrow? I have a 1 PM shotgun start. 2 man best ball and then you get paired up blindly with someone from the Masters at the end.

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Posted 06 April 2012 - 07:26 AM

Takes after it's owner.

Well like its owner, it's no longer sexy as hell. First time out I managed to pop a drive up, and in doing so scraped the crown of the (beautiful) white head of the driver. So there's a scrape staring right back at me, taunting me, every time I look down to set up to drive. It's only fitting, I suppose.

I hit it ok other than the pop up, not as accurate as I'd like but had a couple beauties with it dead straight and about 270-280. I upped the face angle a degree to 10, and will see how that plays tomorrow morning when I'm heading out.

Now if only I could find a short game.




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