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#301 scotian1

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:57 PM

Like Eddie O said, they have to get in front of this guy and make it harder to see the puck and get out beyond the blue ice.

#302 FelixMantilla


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:57 PM

Rick Nash is overrated.
Has never had an 80 point season
Currently has 39 points and is -24
Pass.

#303 TheShynessClinic


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:57 PM

No sir. Top-5 cap hit in the league for a guy who's broken 40 goals once in his career and is signed for 6 more seasons?

His lack of trade value in the cap world is going to surprise a lot of people IMO.


He has a 40, a 41, and a 38 goal season.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:58 PM

I'd add Nash if Rask or Hamilton weren't involved, and Chia knew he could easily trade Thomas this summer.

#305 PedroSpecialK


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:58 PM

Seriously, PSK - I love you like a terrorist brother..but really?

Dude put up 40 goals on COLUMBUS. With Krejci or Seguin centering him he goes back to being a 40/40 kind of guy over night.

His contract isn't great, but this team has a lot of good contracts, and a lot of players coming up on ELC's that give us the flexibility to add someone like him.

He's a great player. He'd look awesome on Krejci's right, particularly if Horton's out long-term.

But if he's on the roster, you're going to have to say goodbye to one of Marchand/Seguin/Lucic in a little over a year. it's as simple as that.

#306 scotian1

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:59 PM

Nash always has been pretty effective playing for Team Canada when its best against another country's best.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:59 PM

No sir. Top-5 cap hit in the league for a guy who's broken 40 goals once in his career and is signed for 6 more seasons?

His lack of trade value in the cap world is going to surprise a lot of people IMO.

So you should feel the same way about Ovechkin then correct? He has been on par with Nash the last two years now and has a way worse contract.

#308 Ed Hillel


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:59 PM

Steve Nash is Canadian. Why not give him a shot?

#309 PedroSpecialK


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:59 PM

He has a 40, a 41, and a 38 goal season.

Sorry was thinking of the 70 point barrier

#310 Domer

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 05:59 PM

He has been on a bad team for his entire career which has had one good season since he has been there. If you put him with a playmaking center he is a 40 goal scorer in this league.

That sounds like the Ilya Kovalchuk argument all over again. How did that work out? And Rick Nash is no Ilya Kovalchuk.

#311 LogansDad


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:00 PM

Jesus Lucic has been hit in the fact with like 4 sticks today and notone has been called.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:00 PM

He's a great player. He'd look awesome on Krejci's right, particularly if Horton's out long-term.

But if he's on the roster, you're going to have to say goodbye to one of Marchand/Seguin/Lucic in a little over a year. it's as simple as that.

If that is indeed the case, goodbye Lucic. You basically upgrade from Looch to Nash

#313 TheShynessClinic


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:00 PM

Rick Nash is overrated.
Has never had an 80 point season
Currently has 39 points and is -24
Pass.


Because the difference between 79 points and 80 points makes him not valuable, yea?

#314 RedOctober3829


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:00 PM

Never been mre frustrated watching these guys. What's it going to take to score a goal?

#315 BoSoxFink


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:01 PM

That sounds like the Ilya Kovalchuk argument all over again. How did that work out? And Rick Nash is no Ilya Kovalchuk.

Rick Nash is a different player than Kovalchuk. Kovalchuk has too much Russian hockey in him

#316 Ed Hillel


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:01 PM

Pull Thimas.

#317 Spaulding Smails


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:01 PM

Haven't complained about this in a long time but why is the fourth line out there in this situation??

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:01 PM

This game could last for 6 periods and they wouldn't score.

#319 cshea


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:01 PM

So you should feel the same way about Ovechkin then correct? He has been on par with Nash the last two years now and has a way worse contract.


Ovechkin had 85 points last year. Nash 66. It's closer this year, but Ovechkin's got him 45-39 at this point, playing in less games.

#320 PedroSpecialK


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:02 PM

So you should feel the same way about Ovechkin then correct? He has been on par with Nash the last two years now and has a way worse contract.

In fact, I do. It's not the NBA where stars are the only way to win a championship - look at the cap hits on Boston and Detroit: one big long-term contract commitment that isn't really that huge and is the most important player on the team (Chara/Lidstrom). Adding Nash significantly upsets that cap structure and would lead to a lot more cap trouble than he's worth as a player IMO.

#321 Blacken


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:02 PM

I'd just like you all to know how much I hate today right now.

#322 TheShynessClinic


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:02 PM

He's a great player. He'd look awesome on Krejci's right, particularly if Horton's out long-term.

But if he's on the roster, you're going to have to say goodbye to one of Marchand/Seguin/Lucic in a little over a year. it's as simple as that.


With Horton and Thomas coming off, and Savards LTIR, you can make it work. Especially if in the next two years you're bringing up Knight, Hamilton, and having Khudobin backing up Rask

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:03 PM

Haven't complained about this in a long time but why is the fourth line out there in this situation??

Well, it's not like the other lines are scoring either.

I didn't mind them out there, could have done without the 1:30 length of the shift though.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:03 PM

Ovechkin had 85 points last year. Nash 66. It's closer this year, but Ovechkin's got him 45-39 at this point, playing in less games.


Fair enough, but Ovechkin has been surrounded by offensive talent his whole career in Washington compared to Nash

#325 PedroSpecialK


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:03 PM

If that is indeed the case, goodbye Lucic. You basically upgrade from Looch to Nash

The difference between the two, given the total package, is not that big IMO - and certainly isn't worth $3.7m in cap space.

#326 Blacken


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:04 PM

FUCKING HELL

#327 The Four Peters


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:04 PM

Backstrom could save 100 in a row at this rate. Unbelievable.

#328 PedroSpecialK


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:04 PM

With Horton and Thomas coming off, and Savards LTIR, you can make it work. Especially if in the next two years you're bringing up Knight, Hamilton, and having Khudobin backing up Rask

I'm too angry to think right now, but I'll try and add something to the cap sitch thread tonight about why I'm so against adding Nash.

#329 TheShynessClinic


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:05 PM

Welp, that's all folks.

#330 AimingForYoko


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:05 PM

I wonder if Looch's nose can get anymore fucked up.

Apparently, so do the Wild.

#331 Stu Nahan

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:05 PM

Well done

#332 scotian1

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:06 PM

A 49 save shutout, you don't see that very often!

#333 Blacken


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:06 PM

"48 save shutout" is almost by definition a tip-your-cap game. But it still pisses me off.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:06 PM

49 save shutout for a team that came in losing 7 straight. Unreal.

#335 FelixMantilla


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:07 PM

Minnesota played last night and put up 13 shots on goal.

And they shut out the Bruins this afternoon.

#336 kenneycb


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:07 PM

A 49 fucking save shutout.

#337 cshea


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:07 PM

The most disappointing thing to me is that the Bruins dropped the last two games against teams that were playing on the second half of a back-to-back.

#338 PedroSpecialK


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:09 PM

The most disappointing thing to me is that the Bruins dropped the last two games against teams that were playing on the second half of a back-to-back.

The most disappointing thing to me is that the last 5 hours I spent watching the Bruins would have been better spent dripping wax on my eyeballs

And normal balls.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:11 PM

The most disappointing thing to me is that the last 5 hours I spent watching the Bruins would have been better spent dripping wax on my eyeballs

And normal balls.

Is that your normal Sunday?

#340 Salem's Lot


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:13 PM

The only way to beat goalies like Backstrom, Lundquist or any other good butterfly goalie is to pick top corners. We just don't have enough guys that can do that consistently. We need to add talent with Horton out.

#341 PedroSpecialK


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:13 PM

Is that your normal Sunday?

Day of rest, baby

#342 Nomar813


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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:20 PM

They were 20-9-1, then the Red Sox signed Punto and they've gone 15-11-1 since.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 06:20 PM

Backstrom = Tugnutt today.

Olczyck saying he was letter perfect was absolutely right. He stopped every single shot the Bruins put on his letters.

This team needs player leadership once again, and when your lead by example only captain is not playing particularly well, there is a vacuum. We've seen this before. Also, they are playing the Jets and Wild and 'Canes version of game 7 every time out.

But man, they can't finish for shit right now.

#344 ForceAtHome

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:00 PM

So you should feel the same way about Ovechkin then correct? He has been on par with Nash the last two years now and has a way worse contract.


You can argue about the contracts, but Ovechkin and Nash simply aren't the same players. Even shitty Ovechkin outplays 95% of the league.

Last two years:
Ovechkin: 56+74=130 points in 134 games.
Nash: 50+55=105 points in 133 games.

Last three years:
Ovechkin: 106+133=239 points in 206 games.
Nash: 83+89= 172 points in 209 games.

The difference is 67 points over the last three years, which includes two true Ovechkin down seasons... and that difference is STILL Nash's highest point total from this span. And the gap only widens from here... Since Ovechkin joined the NHL, he has topped Nash in points every season. There has never been a season where Rick Nash scored more goals than Ovechkin, either.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 09:41 PM

You can argue about the contracts, but Ovechkin and Nash simply aren't the same players. Even shitty Ovechkin outplays 95% of the league.

Last two years:
Ovechkin: 56+74=130 points in 134 games.
Nash: 50+55=105 points in 133 games.

Last three years:
Ovechkin: 106+133=239 points in 206 games.
Nash: 83+89= 172 points in 209 games.

The difference is 67 points over the last three years, which includes two true Ovechkin down seasons... and that difference is STILL Nash's highest point total from this span. And the gap only widens from here... Since Ovechkin joined the NHL, he has topped Nash in points every season. There has never been a season where Rick Nash scored more goals than Ovechkin, either.

My point was never to say that Nash was better player, he's not. But ovechkins contract is worse than Nash's and the production comparatively with the contract is even in dissapointment I believe. At least with Ovie's last two years.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 10:50 PM

Why are they so incapable of being Minnesota? This confounds me.

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Posted 19 February 2012 - 11:58 PM

resurrect Bane.