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[kenneycb]

Because it's a new year and I really want to highlight the miraculous recovery of Coach Rogers, who took a position as a QB coach with Temple. Thank you all for respecting his privacy for all this time. Hopefully his jaw is fully healed at this point.

Edited by kenneycb, 16 October 2012 - 09:51 AM.

[BigMike]

BC replaced the departing coaches today. As expected it was going to be a quick transition.

http://www.bceagles..../021312aab.html

The only real surprise to me is that Sean Desai will function as both ST coordinator AND RB coach. Desai is an exceptionally bright man who certainly has an amazing work ethic so i am not worried about him wearing 2 hats.

Al Washington will serve as an assistant on both ST and the DL. Washington is a BC guy, and an exceptionally high character leader

Aaron Smith is another very intelligent young man who was the recruiting Coordinator and WR coach at Columbia

I think BC adds 3 people who get what BC is about, and are young and energetic.

[BigSoxFan]

I'll forever have a soft spot for Al Washington after he went after Brad Butler right after the cheapshot to Kiwi.

[doldmoose34]

I'm gonna shock you all by saying that I'm happy with these results, 3 young coaches can breathe some life in the ongoing wake that was Yawkey...plus like BS said above Al Washington is a BC Guy esp after going after Butler

lets just hope that Spaz doesn't drag them down to his level

[bowiac]

A ton of returning starters here. (Only one team in college football projects to return more I believe). Should allow for some nice improvement without any other changes.

[kenneycb]

A ton of returning starters here. (Only one team in college football projects to return more I believe). Should allow for some nice improvement without any other changes.

We had 15 returning starters last year, so not necessarily.

Edited by kenneycb, 14 February 2012 - 07:41 PM.

[doldmoose34]

A ton of returning starters here. (Only one team in college football projects to return more I believe). Should allow for some nice improvement without any other changes.

lets not forget who is running the show on the sideline, GDF

[mt8thsw9th]

BC replaced the departing coaches today. As expected it was going to be a quick transition.

http://www.bceagles..../021312aab.html

Al Washington will serve as an assistant on both ST and the DL. Washington is a BC guy, and an exceptionally high character leader.

A friend's dad is on the staff, and he had us bring out Al for dinner last night after practice. What a great guy. For all the reasons people have to be cynical, he's a real bright spot on the staff, in my opinion.

[kenneycb]

Montel is out of spring practice due to a reaggravation of his knee injury. Now down to three healthy RBs entering the spring. Good thing we didn't need to recruit one this year.

[BigSoxFan]

Montel is out of spring practice due to a reaggravation of his knee injury. Now down to three healthy RBs entering the spring. Good thing we didn't need to recruit one this year.

C'mon. Who could have predicted that a RB who missed almost all of last year would re-aggravate his injury...? Nice job, Spaz.

[berniecarbo1]

C'mon. Who could have predicted that a RB who missed almost all of last year would re-aggravate his injury...? Nice job, Spaz.

Let's see, we were waiting for 6 guys to return from the DL to shore up the team...Momah, nope, Montel, probably nope.....I feel for the kids, but this is laughable.

Edited by berniecarbo1, 21 February 2012 - 03:45 PM.

[4 6 3 DP]

Someone on EO said Montel's uncle posted something on a Facebook page saying it was time for Montel to move on...hope this isn't the case.

[doldmoose34]

ok who is the bigger total fuck up

a) GDF
b) Spaz
c) Dr, Diane 'Kevorkian' English

[berniecarbo1]

ok who is the bigger total fuck up

a) GDF
b) Spaz
c) Dr, Diane 'Kevorkian' English

I think you should ask Ryan Glasper about that. How 'bout all of the above.

[BigSoxFan]

Momah's appeal officially denied by NCAA. Thanks, guys.

[mikcou]

Welcome aboard the 3-9 Spaz excuse train. I would just add that with the spring roster now out - BC is expecting 81 scholarship guys (exactly what I had predicted in the '11 thread) if all people with LOIs show up on campus this summer.

[mikcou]

Bump to 82 scholarship guys. BC grabbed Concord Carlisle RB Caraan. He was thought to be a FCS level guy who decided he wanted to go do a post grad year for another chance at a FBS program. I really wish I was joking here.

[Dave Stapleton]

They did need to do something depth wise. A stretch for sure but the guy did have 1900 yards and dominated the lower competition he faces. Not like they should be banking schollies.

[BigSoxFan]

They did need to do something depth wise. A stretch for sure but the guy did have 1900 yards and dominated the lower competition he faces. Not like they should be banking schollies.

They needed to do something depth wise because they completely failed to recruit a RB these past 2 years. Now, we waste a scholarship on a slow-as-hell MA recruit who played against awful competition. Good times. Hopefully he's a good student who helps with the graduation rate.

[doldmoose34]

Schedule is out:

9/1 - Miami (Fl.) -LOSS
9/8 - Maine (FCS) -WIN
9/15 - @ Northwestern -LOSS
9/22 - OPEN PICK 'EM
9/29 - Clemson -LOSS
10/6 - @ Army -WIN
10/13 - @ Florida State -LOSS
10/20 - @ Georgia Tech -LOSS
10/27 - Maryland -WIN
11/3 - @ Wake Forest LOSS
11/10 - Notre Dame -LOSS
11/17 - Virgina Tech-LOSS
11/24 - @ NC State IS THERE A WAY BOTH TEAMS CAN LOSE? LOSS

3-9

[BigSoxFan]

You're a pessimist. I think 4-8 is definitely do-able.

[kenneycb]

Gene D gets taken to task by the Metro. It's incredible that the Globe and Herald are getting absolutely pummeled in their coverage by a free newspaper that Bostonians read on the train to kill time. Clownshoes all around.

http://www.metro.us/...llege-athletics

[Dave Stapleton]

Gene D gets taken to task by the Metro. It's incredible that the Globe and Herald are getting absolutely pummeled in their coverage by a free newspaper that Bostonians read on the train to kill time. Clownshoes all around.

http://www.metro.us/...llege-athletics

GDF deserves a lot of criticism but that is not a well formulated case. It's written as some sort of expose but starts with the Lively letter which kills its credibility immediately. I think an opinion piece criticizing the direction of the program and his missteps would be fine but a piece like this with nothing more than a few quotes from individuals with axes to grind does little.

[kenneycb]

Which is essentially the same as the "Everything is fine and dandy" pieces pumped out by Blauds.

[4 6 3 DP]

BC Football is poor because Frank Spaziani is it's coach. Gene refuses to address this, and as such is also responsible, but the article itself doesn't cover any real ground.

[mikcou]

BC Football is poor because Frank Spaziani is it's coach. Gene refuses to address this, and as such is also responsible, but the article itself doesn't cover any real ground.

Hes also responsible because hes the one who decided to hire, with multiple clearly superior alternatives at the time. The fact that fans who casually follow the program can tell how coaches are going to turn out better than the AD has to make everyone question Gene's ability to do anything right with respect to the football program.

[Mystic Merlin]

GDF deserves a lot of criticism but that is not a well formulated case. It's written as some sort of expose but starts with the Lively letter which kills its credibility immediately. I think an opinion piece criticizing the direction of the program and his missteps would be fine but a piece like this with nothing more than a few quotes from individuals with axes to grind does little.

I have yet to read a 'well-formulated case' for the opposing viewpoint, and I doubt I will, as those who still in some way defend Gene and friends have been reduced to equivocating and poking holes in critical articles. The record speaks for itself, as does the shit-tastic atmosphere surrounding the program. Why anyone would remain blind to this still is beyond me.

So, when you say 'GDF deserves a lot of criticism', I don't believe you think that, having read your posts over the past year. I don't know why it is so difficult to acknowledge that - at some point - the criticism is no longer over the top or not 'well formulated'. And, um, yeah, the donors who have left most certainly have 'axes to grind' - THAT'S WHY THEY LEFT. I'm not sure what source(s) you would need to believe that Gene isn't that great of a guy to work for or around, and a guy more concerned with control over the football program than getting a fucking real coach in there.

Edited by Mystic Merlin, 05 March 2012 - 03:17 PM.

[Dave Stapleton]

I have yet to read a 'well-formulated case' for the opposing viewpoint, and I doubt I will, as those who still in some way defend Gene and friends have been reduced to equivocating and poking holes in critical articles. The record speaks for itself, as does the shit-tastic atmosphere surrounding the program. Why anyone would remain blind to this still is beyond me.

So, when you say 'GDF deserves a lot of criticism', I don't believe you think that, having read your posts over the past year. I don't know why it is so difficult to acknowledge that - at some point - the criticism is no longer over the top or not 'well formulated'. And, um, yeah, the donors who have left most certainly have 'axes to grind' - THAT'S WHY THEY LEFT. I'm not sure what source(s) you would need to believe that Gene isn't that great of a guy to work for or around, and a guy more concerned with control over the football program than getting a fucking real coach in there.

You're wrong. I do believe it. I have said on many occasions that I agreed that TOB needed to go and that the Jags hiring was the big mistake. He then compounded the mistake by hiring Spaz. I actually had more sympathy for the Spaz hire because I thought he would serve as a place holder coach that would hold the ship until it was time for a successor. I'm not the AD thought and my error in judgement doesn't impact the program. Finally, the Tranquil hiring was abysmal and GDF bears responsibility.

I just get so tired of the whiny, angry, woe is me attitude of so many of my fellow alumni who take personal shots at every turn.

With respect to the metro article, it's a poorly written, poorly researched piece which tells us nothing. Sort of like a Blauds piece except on the opposite side.

[BigSoxFan]

How was hiring Jags the big mistake? The guy got BC to 2 straight ACC title games. He did his job on the field - yes, he did stop recruiting his 2nd season. The big mistake was Gene not letting Jags go on his merry way, which was obviously what he wanted after the 2008 season. Had Gene not nuked the situation, it could have easily been spun as Jags leaving for greener pastures. Nobody would have batted an eyelash to that and we could have gotten another coach without much fanfare. Instead, he got butthurt and generated attention to a story that 99.999% of college football fans would never have known/cared about. This led him to making an awful hire with Spaz. And now our program has been decimated.

[BS_SoxFan]

I happened to meet a high up individual at BC this weekend by chance (who will remain nameless, but he checked out) and spoke with him for about 15 minutes about the state of the AD as a whole, but in particular the football team. He first apologized to all season ticket holders for the current state of the program. We chatted about many of the issues we've discussed ad nauseum in these threads the last two seasons--fan apathy, poor recruiting, poor scheduling, etc.--and he assured me that the Board is well aware of the growing disdain of the small core of loyal fans that BC has, and he said that unless the team shows marked improvement next season (7+ wins) that major changes are going to occur.

So, take it for what it's worth, but I thought it was pretty interesting.

Edit: Protecting ID of person with whom I spoke

Edited by BS_SoxFan, 05 March 2012 - 05:41 PM.

[kenneycb]

You're wrong. I do believe it. I have said on many occasions that I agreed that TOB needed to go and that the Jags hiring was the big mistake. He then compounded the mistake by hiring Spaz. I actually had more sympathy for the Spaz hire because I thought he would serve as a place holder coach that would hold the ship until it was time for a successor. I'm not the AD thought and my error in judgement doesn't impact the program. Finally, the Tranquil hiring was abysmal and GDF bears responsibility.

I just get so tired of the whiny, angry, woe is me attitude of so many of my fellow alumni who take personal shots at every turn.

With respect to the metro article, it's a poorly written, poorly researched piece which tells us nothing. Sort of like a Blauds piece except on the opposite side.

What is there to suggest that anything is being done to mitigate this attitude? A consistently declining W/L? Consistent decline in recruiting? Growing fan apathy amongst both die-hards and casual supporters? There's very little positive I can find surrounding the program outside of a first rounder in the upcoming draft. They suck and I'm pretty damn angry about it, so yes, I'm going to whine about it in the hopes that someone important hears it.

[BigSoxFan]

What is there to suggest that anything is being done to mitigate this attitude? A consistently declining W/L? Consistent decline in recruiting? Growing fan apathy amongst both die-hards and casual supporters? There's very little positive I can find surrounding the program outside of a first rounder in the upcoming draft. They suck and I'm pretty damn angry about it, so yes, I'm going to whine about it in the hopes that someone important hears it.

You should be whining. Hell, just look at the women's basketball program. Gene canned Inglese for no apparent reason despite the fact that she had done a very solid job with the program. Now, they are getting blown out every game under Crawley but Gene has no incentive to make a change because he knows nobody cares. Indifference is Gene's best ally right now. If this were a non-Vandy SEC school, he'd be getting absolutely destroyed by fans, the press, etc. and would probably already be fired. But since this is BC, we have to suffer for a couple years before the obvious change is made.

Edited by BigSoxFan, 05 March 2012 - 06:13 PM.

[doldmoose34]

I happened to meet a high up individual at BC this weekend by chance (who will remain nameless, but he checked out) and spoke with him for about 15 minutes about the state of the AD as a whole, but in particular the football team. He first apologized to all season ticket holders for the current state of the program. We chatted about many of the issues we've discussed ad nauseum in these threads the last two seasons--fan apathy, poor recruiting, poor scheduling, etc.--and he assured me that the Board is well aware of the growing disdain of the small core of loyal fans that BC has, and he said that unless the team shows marked improvement next season (7+ wins) that major changes are going to occur.

So, take it for what it's worth, but I thought it was pretty interesting.

Edit: Protecting ID of person with whom I spoke

WTF you said you were gonna keep this on the QT LOL

in best John Clese voice: AND NOW FOR SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT


The Constant Bashing of DeFilippo Needs to Stop



Yet another negative article concerning BC athletics came out in the press yesterday. It came to us courtesy of Matt Burke from Boston Metro. It talked about the last time BC athletics was in prosperity and how things have fallen downhill since then. I am not disagreeing with that point, but 95% of the blame is put on athletics director Gene DeFilippo. First of all, do I think it is fair? Absolutely not. Many people are upset with him over the firing of Al Skinner. First off, DeFilippo and Skinner came to a mutual agreement about his dismissal. Second off, the athletic department agreed to keep it quiet, so as to not jeopardize other offers Skinner received. That seems like a pretty classy move to me in a business that is so cutthroat, so I give the athletic department major credit for that.

Then there was the Jags controversy. Gene said he would fire Jags if he interviewed for the New York Jets job which he did and was promptly fired the next day. Although Jags win-loss record was excellent at BC, how good a coach was he? He has since been fired from several jobs and has not coached in any capacity since 2010. If you're fired from the UFL's Omaha Nighthawks, chances are your coaching skills need some work. Even though I do miss Jags I credit Gene for sticking to his word, showing that he would not be pushed around. It is hard to find an AD, who sticks to his word. Although it may not seem like it right now, I believe that it was a smart move by DeFilippo as well. Would you really want a head coach whose mind is nor focused 100% on the football program? I know I wouldn't.

I'd like to point out that during the period of prosperity that BC athletics enjoyed, we also had some incredible athletes. There was Matt Ryan, an NFL-ready quarterback who just so happened to play at the collegiate level. Then there was Jared Dudley, who was named the 2007 ACC Player of the Year. Nathan Gerbe was named a finalist for the Hobey Baker Award during the 2007-08 season, and led the Eagles to a national championship. These were just some of the tremendous athletes that played at BC during this period. We may never see anything like it again. When these athletes graduate, you are bound to experience a few years of decline.

In the case of the football program, Matt Ryan and Andre Callendar were such central figures of the football program. Once you lose them, you are going to have to rebuild. That is what the Eagles have been trying to do since. Last season was a disappointment I agree. But I am sick and tried of reading articles that call of the firing of GDF before the season even starts! Let's see how this season turns out before we call for his head. As for the basketball program? I am very pleased with the direction Coach Donahue is taking this team, and you should be too. All I am asking is to buy Gene some time. You may not like everything he does, but I see a bright future for Eagles' athletics ahead.

http://danssportsrep...o.html?spref=tw

EDIT, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNOW THIS WAS THAT BLOGGER'S POST NOT MINE, GIVE GDF MORE TIME? I'LL GIVE HIM A 10 MIN HEAD START THEN RELEASE THE HOUNDS

Edited by doldmoose34, 05 March 2012 - 09:59 PM.

[kenneycb]

Ha, Skinner and Gene came to a "mutual agreement". Christ, put the Kool-Aid down. It's okay to say he got fired. His other chances have been, what? Like one or two interviews?

Edit: He does realize we rebuilt the year after Ruan and Callender to the tune of an ACCCG? I would write more but I'm on my phone and don't feel like typing for thirty minutes.

Edited by kenneycb, 05 March 2012 - 11:19 PM.

[BigSoxFan]

That almost could be read as a parody. How could any program EVER recover from the loss of Andre Callender?!?!

[kenneycb]

That almost could be read as a parody. How could any program EVER recover from the loss of Andre Callender?!?!

Yeah. Who was the scrub that replaced him?

I guess the theme of the article was: Ever to Expect Tempered Expectations and Long Stertches of Mediocrity. Has a good ring to it

Edited by kenneycb, 05 March 2012 - 11:24 PM.

[BigSoxFan]

Yeah. Who was the scrub that replaced him?

I guess the theme of the article was: Ever to Expect Tempered Expectations and Long Stertches of Mediocrity. Has a good ring to it

Some scrub that Jags brought in who lucked into the school rushing record.

[berniecarbo1]

No one is whining. We are reciting facts here. 4 wins in 3 years against FBS schools with winning records....2-16 when trailing at halftime in the last 3 years....Overall, including wins against now defunct programs...19-19....no bowl wins in 3 years, no wins against ranked teams...unranked for 3 years....2-10 against perennial iron teams on the schedule (SBCC, FSU, Va Tech and Clemson)....FACTS BOYS, not whines.....no 4 star recruits....shall we go on??? Hiring a 60 year old career assistant....turnover in the coaching staff that makes one think it is close to a Guiness record.....worst game day experience in FBS.....total DB radio announcer who sounds like the geeky stat freak in the back on the room in high school ( and his voice is just cracking)....did I say horrible game day experience...... a marketing campaign that would get you at best a C in MKT 101 in college... alienating the football alumni...and ALL of this is at the feet of GDF. The program is a joke and anyone who tries to make any excuses for this train wreck is not being realistic. If they start out 1-4 ( and with Mia, Maine, Northwestern adn Clemson, 1-4 is possible) who's going to be around for those games against Maryland and Wake?? GDF must go!!

[mikcou]

Hampton Hughes off the roster as well as the expected Mike Goodman.

[Captaincoop]

In case BC athletics isn't enough of a laughingstock...the baseball team appears to be wearing hats with the angry chicken logo on the front this year instead of the interlocking BC. So pathetic.

[mikcou]

In case BC athletics isn't enough of a laughingstock...the baseball team appears to be wearing hats with the angry chicken logo on the front this year instead of the interlocking BC. So pathetic.

At the least team is decent which is something you cant say for any of the major programs except for York's fiefdom.

[doldmoose34]

I just bought official Angry Chicken ties for myself and brothers

at Building 19

for $3.99 each

[Captaincoop]

Apparently Gene was heartily booed at the hockey rally today. Good for the hockey fans...Gene has nothing to do with that program's success and no BC fan should take their eye off the ball just because we won a title in a regional sport.

[berniecarbo1]

Apparently Gene was heartily booed at the hockey rally today. Good for the hockey fans...Gene has nothing to do with that program's success and no BC fan should take their eye off the ball just because we won a title in a regional sport.

Didn't take long for the little shit to weasel into the hockey success did it?? I mentioned that he would try to co-opt the success there over on the college hockey thread on Monday, and by tuesday night he was doing just that. Glad the hockey chrisnas pushed back. He is a complete disaster in my book. He did one thing right and that was getting BC into the ACC. But I would say he is batting 1-10. Hell Lou Merloni hit a HR in his first AB in Fenway but he was a journeyman ballplayer. GDF is a poor AD and has pissed the overall athletic program into irrelevancy. Christ what a DB.

[Bleedred]

At the least team is decent which is something you cant say for any of the major programs except for York's fiefdom.

BC Soccer is pretty damn good, no? Perhaps that's not a major program.

[RedOctober3829]

BC Soccer is pretty damn good, no? Perhaps that's not a major program.

No, it's not even close to a major program. Hockey isn't either.

[BigSoxFan]

No, it's not even close to a major program. Hockey isn't either.

Agreed. There's football, basketball and then everything else.

[mikcou]

Agreed. There's football, basketball and then everything else.

Agreed. There's football, basketball and then everything else.

Eh, id consider hockey for the schools in northeast and the midwest to be a major program. While its ultimately a niche sport in the college level, its large in the north east and the mid west, which, you know, is where we are.

[SumnerH]

Eh, id consider hockey for the schools in northeast and the midwest to be a major program. While its ultimately a niche sport in the college level, its large in the north east and the mid west, which, you know, is where we are.

At BC over the last few years it's about $20 million in revenue for football, $9 million for basketball, and $3 million for hockey annually, give or take. Baseball's in the $1.2 million range.

[BigSoxFan]

Eh, id consider hockey for the schools in northeast and the midwest to be a major program. While its ultimately a niche sport in the college level, its large in the north east and the mid west, which, you know, is where we are.

Well, I just can't call any program "major" if it doesn't generate national interest. The only time you hear about BC hockey nationally is if they win it all - and even then it's brief and is no different than Syracuse lacrosse or whatever.